Amphibious Ready Group (ARG), light carriers CVL als basis ipv LHD

[Harald]

Goed dat ze besloten hebben om het dock terug te brengen want wie dat ooit besloten heeft zat niet op te letten.

De reden dat LHA zonder well deck uitgerust werd is om meer F-35B en/of MV-22 te kunnen gebruiken/bergen.

Here's the USMC's Plan for 'Lightning Carriers' Brimming With F-35Bs
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/8798/heres-the-usmcs-plan-for-lightning-carriers-brimming-with-f-35bs

[Parera]

Het blijven machtige schepen die LHD/LHA's van de Yanks. Tot op heden nog maar 1 keer mogen bewonderen met op het dek slechts een groep CH-53's maar wat een bak 
Goed dat ze besloten hebben om het dock terug te brengen want wie dat ooit besloten heeft zat niet op te letten.

[Harald]

The Next America Class Amphibious Assault Ship Will Almost Be In a Class of its Own

USS Bougainville (LHA-8) will be built with a well-deck unlike her two sister ships, but that's just one of its unique features.



USS Bougainville (LHA-8) may share the America class amphibious assault ship designation but it's really quite a different ship than its two predecessors USS America and USS Tripoli. The biggest change has been widely reported on—the return of a floodable well-deck to 'gator navy' flattop production. The decision to omit this feature in exchange for enhanced aviation capabilities was always a very controversial decision and the USMC and the Navy have decided to bring the feature back. But other major changes will also be realized on LHA-8, including a significant reconfiguration of its deck planform and island design.

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voor volledige artikel zie onderstaande link

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/20201/the-next-america-class-amphibious-assault-ship-will-almost-be-in-a-class-of-its-own

vanaf 3:15 tot 5:10

[Harald]

Japan's Defense Minister says he authorized study on operating F-35B from Izumo   
(maar even hier geplaatst, Japanse helicopter carrier toch gebruiken als "aircraft"carrier )

Japan ponders use of helicopter carrier for stealth fighters

Defense Minister Itsunori Onodera dropped a bombshell admission March 2 by saying he authorized studies into whether advanced F-35B stealth fighter jets can be deployed on the Maritime Self-Defense Force's Izumo helicopter carrier.

Such activity would fly in the face of war-renouncing Article 9 of the Constitution that prohibits Japan from maintaining more than the bare minimum to protect itself.

Aware of the political ramifications of his comment in the Upper House Budget Committee session, Onodera added, "No decision has yet been made about whether the F-35B will actually be attached to the Izumo."

The Izumo is the largest vessel in the MSDF fleet and any move to refit it into an aircraft carrier would face an uproar from the opposition parties.

Akira Koike of the Japanese Communist Party called Onodera's comment "an important admission" in light of the government's past refusal to possess an aircraft carrier due to the nation's exclusively defensive posture.

"But he (Onodera) is now saying consideration is being given to fundamentally change the posture of the nation," Koike said.

The U.S.-made F-35B is the most advanced stealth fighter jet and unlike the F-35A now used by the Air SDF, it can take off from a short runway and also land vertically like a helicopter.

In the Upper House Budget Committee session, Onodera said, "Regarding the Izumo, research has been conducted on which among the latest aircraft could possibly take off and land on it. The most representative aircraft is the F-35B. (The research) is intended to accumulate fundamental information regardless of the conclusion reached in the future."

But he stopped short of stating whether the Constitution banned the possession of any aircraft carrier. He would only say "attack" aircraft carriers that had many aircraft capable of loads with extreme destructive power or anti-land attack capabilities would not be allowed.

http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201803030015.html

[Huzaar1]

https://www.defensenews.com/news/your-marine-corps/2017/10/25/marines-launch-rocket-from-amphibious-ship-to-destroy-target-on-land/

Dat is een leuke nieuwe ontwikkeling

We hadden die MLRS er noooooit uit moeten doen. Dit is wel erg handig.
je zet zo'n apparaat op een boot en knallen maar.

[Harald]

Amphibious Warfare Leaders Warn Against Buying Light Carriers Instead of Amphibs

The Navy's director of amphibious warfare warned that pursuing a light aircraft carrier option in lieu of amphibious assault ships would limit the Marines' options for responding to operational commanders' needs, and instead urged faster shipbuilding and experimenting with new ship groupings to increase operational flexibility.

Maj. Gen. David Coffman (OPNAV N95) said Thursday at the National Defense Industrial Association's annual Expeditionary Warfare Conference that "there is a threat from above – 'threat' being Pentagon-speak – of the light carrier coming down into Marine trade space and affecting us."

The most recent iteration of the light carrier concept was raised in a trio of future fleet architecture studies released earlier this year, with proponents advocating something similar to the America-class amphibious assault ship or potentially something that looks more like a conventionally powered aircraft carrier with a catapult to launch planes. Amphibious assault ships USS America (LHA-6) and the future Tripoli (LHA-7) are aviation-optimized ships that trade a well deck in order for added aviation maintenance space and jet fuel storage.

During a panel discussion at the conference, Capt. David Bossert, the amphibious warfare branch head (OPNAV N953,) said the Navy has a history of using its big-deck amphibs as a light carrier during certain operations, while still retaining the inherent flexibility of an amphibious ship. In the Gulf War, for instance, he said a big-deck might be outfitted with only fixed-wing aircraft "so you could put more on there and you could operate better."

"If you're launching fixed-wing and then you're launching helicopters and then you're launching tilt-rotors, they all launch a little bit different, you have to set different conditions, you have to maneuver around, so it's much easier if you're just doing fixed wing, fixed wing, fixed wing," the former USS Kearsarge (LHD-3) commanding officer said.
"So if you look at that model, we can certainly do it again."

Coffman agreed there are operational benefits to operating a light carrier or an aviation-centric amphib, but he said that would only be helpful if supplemented by traditional big-deck amphib capabilities to address the entire range of military operations.

"When we present our case for our (acquisition) plans, this is part of why we are going to argue we need to get to our 12 big-decks sooner rather than later, in order to open up the flexibility of the particular value of the aviation-optimized America and Tripoli as they come into service," he said.

In fact, the Navy is conducting a congressionally mandated study to look accelerating the procurement of the next amphibious assault ship, LHA-9, to Fiscal Year 2021 instead of the planned FY 2024 procurement. Tom Rivers, amphibious warfare program manager within the Program Executive Office for Ships, said at the conference that his office would be looking at the acquisition benefits of bumping up that procurement timeline – less risk to suppliers, more stability for sole amphibious warship builder Ingalls Shipbuilding, lower cost by avoiding a production break – and OPNAV N95 would supplement that report with the operational considerations for building another amphib sooner. The Navy and Marine Corps intend to eventually have 12 amphibious assault ships in the fleet, though today they have just nine.

The study is due to lawmakers in March, he told USNI News, with a decision on how to proceed potentially coming in the Fiscal Year 2019 defense bills.

Coffman said the Navy could add more flexibility to its amphibious forces by considering alternatives in deploying them. He suggested leaders "think less about preparing a three-ship [amphibious ready group] that can take care of itself, and think more about a scale up here at the task force level, mixing and matching assets that you can move from crisis response to major contingency operations to major combat operations in a contested environment."

He noted the Upgunned Expeditionary Strike Group concept that pairs amphibious ships with destroyers that can provide anti-air and ballistic missile defense coverage, and praised U.S. Pacific Fleet commander Adm. Scott Swift and head of amphibious forces in the Pacific Rear Adm. Marc Dalton for experimenting with that concept.

https://news.usni.org/2017/10/26/amphibious-warfare-leaders-warn-buying-light-carriers-instead-amphibs

[Zander]

https://www.defensenews.com/news/your-marine-corps/2017/10/25/marines-launch-rocket-from-amphibious-ship-to-destroy-target-on-land/

Dat is een leuke nieuwe ontwikkeling

[Huzaar1]

En dit is het antwoord op?

Op het verdwijnen van de Karel en Rdam.

[jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter)]

Daar heb je CVL's voor.

En dit is het antwoord op?

[jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter)]

nein, in mijn opzicht is die Doorman totaal overbodig. Een bevoorrader die helikopter dingen kan.
Nah. Dat betekent geen dedicated bevoorrader, dus duur en dat is zo dus geen nood.

Nu ze eenmaal in dienst is, is ze niet zo veel duurder meer dan een "gewone" bevoorrader, daarnaast, nu ze er eenmaal is kunnen we haar beter houden en een eenvoudiger schip extra aan de vloot toevoegen.

Je hebt vrijwel nooit te veel logistiek.

[Huzaar1]

Met 2 CVL mag je het fregatten bestand wel ophogen, 8 zijn dan volstrekt onvoldoende, daarnaast, het JSS kan gewoon dienst blijven doen als bevoorrader.

4 fregatten actief mee op safari zijn dan wel een minimum om het HVT tegen de nodige ongein te beschermen.

nein, in mijn opzicht is die Doorman totaal overbodig. Een bevoorrader die helikopter dingen kan.
Nah. Dat betekent geen dedicated bevoorrader, dus duur en dat is zo dus geen nood.
Daar heb je CVL's voor.

[jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter)]

Omdat we er geen fluit aan hebben.
Opv weg, rdam weg, karel weg

2x cvl
4x m-fregat
4× lc-fregat
1x lpd
2x bevoorrader a la normaal
4 x walrusboot

Met 2 CVL mag je het fregatten bestand wel ophogen, 8 zijn dan volstrekt onvoldoende, daarnaast, het JSS kan gewoon dienst blijven doen als bevoorrader.

4 fregatten actief mee op safari zijn dan wel een minimum om het HVT tegen de nodige ongein te beschermen.

[Huzaar1]

Waarom zou je haar willen verkopen... ze is immers al betaald, voeg dan, wat de marine ook graag ziet, een nieuwe tanker aan de vloot toe.

Omdat we er geen fluit aan hebben.
Opv weg, rdam weg, karel weg

2x cvl
4x m-fregat
4× lc-fregat
1x lpd
2x bevoorrader a la normaal
4 x walrusboot

[jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter)]

Beetje OPV verhaal is het geworden met dat apparaat. Verkoop maar aan Egypte. Willen ze vast wel hebben.

Waarom zou je haar willen verkopen... ze is immers al betaald, voeg dan, wat de marine ook graag ziet, een nieuwe tanker aan de vloot toe.

[walter leever]

Laten we eerst zorgen dat(buiten alle nu geldende problemen)er weer tankercapaciteit is(en voldoende)indien dat plaatje klopt,kun je denken aan 't verkopen van de KD,niet eerder. 

Denk trouwens dat Duitsland wel eens interesse zou kunnen hebben(dan blijft ie binnen bereik)