Het Italiaanse M fregat - PPA (Pattugliatori Polivalenti d’Altura)

Gestart door jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter), 05/05/2015 | 22:41 uur

Parera

Citaat van: Thomasen op 23/09/2021 | 18:26 uur
Nu wel meer geintegreerd op de brug dan bij de eerste concepten. Ben benieuwd wat ze er van vinden. Is wel een andere manier van werken. De wacht wordt gelopen, niet gezeten.....

Het is wel net iets anders dan wat wij doen op onze OPV's. Zoals hieronder te zien zitten de twee man voorin met daarachter in het midden de commandant.


Parera

Check Out The Futuristic 'Naval Cockpit' Of The Italian Navy's PPA

The Italian Navy released the first cleared photos of the bridge of its latest class of surface combatant, the Multipurpose Offshore Patrol ship (PPA), and it looks like something out of a sci-fi movie.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/09/check-out-the-futuristic-naval-cockpit-of-the-italian-navys-ppa









https://www.rid.it/shownews/4405


Parera

Citaat van: jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter) op 03/08/2018 | 19:12 uur
With size and anti-sub capabilities in mind, Italy's Navy rethinks ship designs

https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2018/08/03/with-size-and-anti-sub-capabilities-in-mind-italys-navy-rethinks-ship-designs/#.W2SMtX4lSaE.twitter
Smart move, nu maar hopen dat ze het niet zo plannen als de Type 31's waarbij alles prepared but not fitted is. Maar daar zijn de Italianen niet zo van, en deze schepen zouden in hun volledige uitrusting behoorlijk krachtig zijn.

- 1x 127 mm maingun
- 1x 76 mm CIWS
- 2x 25 mm Autocannon
- 16x VLS cell ; Aster-15 / Aster-30 / SCALP NG
- 8x Otomat mk2 ASuW missile
- 2x 533 mm torpedo tube (blackshark)
- 2x triple 324 mm torpedo tube (MU90)
- 2x NH90 of 1x AW-101

Zeker geen slecht fregat, al zouden slechts 2 stuks van de 7 uitgerust worden in volledige uitrusting en nog 1 optioneel bij de laatste 3. Ze doen er slim aan om schip 4 t/m 7 uit te rusten met volledige bewapening, daarna schip 1 t/m 3 upgraden en de laatste 3 bij te bouwen in volledige uitrusting. Al zou ik niet raar staan te kijken dat ze er voor kiezen om alles uit te rusten met volledige bewapening maar dan slechts 8 stuks te bouwen.

Citaat van: Huzaar1 op 03/08/2018 | 19:35 uur
Geloof me, Thales had die al lang voordat de macaroni's met dit krantenbericht zijn gekomen.
Heb er zelfs naast gestaan tijdens testen bij het DGLC.
Als jij dat zegt zal dat best kloppen, ik kon er niet al te veel over vinden dus ga niet die garantie geven.

Huzaar1

Citaat van: Parera op 13/12/2017 | 22:03 uur
Ik heb te weinig detail info over de verschillen van deze radars om daar een antwoord op te kunnen geven , vandaar ook dat ik hier geen reactie op gegeven heb.

Geloof me, Thales had die al lang voordat de macaroni's met dit krantenbericht zijn gekomen.
Heb er zelfs naast gestaan tijdens testen bij het DGLC.
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion" US secmindef - Jed Babbin"


Parera

Citaat van: Ace1 op 13/12/2017 | 21:21 uur
Daar heeft Huzaar een punt mee.
Ik heb te weinig detail info over de verschillen van deze radars om daar een antwoord op te kunnen geven , vandaar ook dat ik hier geen reactie op gegeven heb.

Ace1


Huzaar1

"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion" US secmindef - Jed Babbin"

Parera

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Leonardo works on 'Europe's first fully digital' radar



ROME — Italy's Leonardo is edging closer to producing a fully digital, active electronically scanned array radar — the only one of its kind in Europe according to the firm — with initial components now being manufactured.

The L-band Kronos Power Shield radar is being built for the Italian Navy's new Landing Helicopter Dock vessel.

"We are evolving the new Leonardo AESA radar into a fully digital system, which allows us to manage a bigger amount of data in less time, so enhancing the radar performance," said Renzo Tosini, naval and Air Defence line of business director at Leonardo's Land and Naval Defence Electronics division.

Active Electronically Scanned Array radars use grids of small Transmit Receive Modules, each generating an individual radar beam which can be combined to create a larger, composite, directed radar beam.

With each TRM containing its own power source, the break down of one TRM barely affects overall performance, unlike traditional radars where a sole power source behind the antenna powered the entire radar, meaning total breakdown if the power source was lost.

The key novelty in Leonardo's new radar is that the transmitting and receiving signal is already digital at the level of the single radiating element.

"The new L band radar is based on 'digital' TRMs hosted into so-called 'Digital Active Tile' blocks," said Tosini.

"Going fully digital means the radar transceiver is thinner and allows the radar system to process more information faster," he added.

The roughly 40 square meter rotating radar will offer an instrumental extended surveillance range of 1,500 - 2,000 km.

Italy's Fincantieri started work in July on Italy's new 1.1 billion euro LHD, a 25 knot, 200 metre long vessel that will enter service in around 2022.

The multi-functional radar will equip Italy's LHD and the Landing Platform Dock that Fincantieri will build for Qatar, said Tosini.

The new technology is being developed as Fincantieri enters talks to jointly build warships with France's Naval Group. Politicians in Italy have raised fears that the systems, like radar, which Leonardo has long supplied to Fincantieri ships might be squeezed out of the joint program by kit supplied by France's Thales.

Leonardo is also offering flat panel C and X band radars known as Kronos which will be used on Italy's new multi-purpose PPA frigates.

[Source:  defensenews.com @ article ]


Harald

Fincantieri Cut Steel of Second Italian Navy PPA Multipurpose Offshore Patrol Ship

The steel cutting ceremony of the Multipurpose Offshore Patrol Ship (PPA) took place on October 3rd at Fincantieri's shipyard in Riva Trigoso (Genova), officially marking the beginning of construction works on the second unit.

The unit will be delivered in 2022 and it is part of the renewal plan of the surface operational lines of the Italian Navy vessels, approved by the Government and Parliament and started in May 2015. The steel cutting ceremony of the first PPA took place in February 2017.

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2017/october-2017-navy-naval-forces-defense-industry-technology-maritime-security-global-news/5630-fincantieri-cut-steel-of-second-italian-navy-ppa-multipurpose-offshore-patrol-ship.html

Harald

Keel Laying of the First Multipurpose Offshore Patrol Ship

TRIESTE --- The keel laying ceremony of the Multipurpose Offshore Patrol Ship (PPA) took place today at Fincantieri's shipyard in Muggiano (La Spezia).

The PPA, first of seven units, will be delivered in 2021 and it is part of the renewal plan of the operational lines of the Italian Navy vessels, approved by the Government and Parliament and started in May 2015.

Vessel's characteristics: PPA – Multipurpose Offshore Patrol Ship

The main feature of this class of ships is their high level of innovation, which makes them extremely flexible in the different operating profiles with a high degree of efficiency. In particular, these vessels have a dual use profile, the one typically military and the one for civil protection and rescue operations at sea; in addition, they have a low environmental impact obtained with appropriate technological and manufacturing solutions, such as advanced low emission propulsion systems (electric motors).

There will be different configurations of combat system: starting from a "soft" version for the patrol task, integrated for self-defence ability, to a "full" one, equipped for a complete defence ability. The vessel is also capable of operating high-speed vessels such as RHIB (Rigid Hull Inflatable Boat) up to 11 meters long through lateral cranes or a hauling ramp located at the far stern.

PPA characteristics
--132.5 meters long
--Speed more than 31 knots according to vessel configuration and operational conditions
--173 persons of the crew
--Equipped with a combined diesel, a gas turbine plant (CODAG) and an electric propulsion system
--Capacity to supply drinking water to land
--Capacity to provide electricity to land with 2000 kw of power
--2 modular zones at the stern and at the center of the ship that allow the embarking of various types of containerized operating/logistic/residential/healthcare modules (in particular, the stern area may receive and handle within a covered area up to 5 modules in ISO 20" containers, while the central zone may receive and handle up to 8 ISO 20" containers)

The PPAs will be built at the Integrated Shipyard of Riva Trigoso and Muggiano, with delivery expected, for the first vessel of the class, in 2021, while the following deliveries will take place in 2022, 2023, 2024 (two units), 2025 and 2026.

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/183511/fincantieri-lays-keel-of-first-multi_mission-opv.html

StrataNL

Citaat van: Harald op 15/02/2017 | 14:32 uur
Wat ik vooral van dit project interessant vind voor de M fregat vervanging , is de 76/62  "Sovraponte" achterop met Pharos.

Bij de eerste beelden van de PPA waren er 2 stuks geplaatst, helaas nu nog maar 1 stuk. 2 stuks vind ik een betere optie.

Die sovraponte is inderdaad interessant, vooral omdat er nog zo weinig van bekend is.

Let wel: het Italiaanse systeem is Strales. De Pharos is van Thales, welke deze promoot voor de vMFF. Nog niet verkocht.
-Strata-
Je Maintiendrai! Blog: Krijgsmacht Next-Generation

Harald

Wat ik vooral van dit project interessant vind voor de M fregat vervanging , is de 76/62  "Sovraponte" achterop met Pharos.

Bij de eerste beelden van de PPA waren er 2 stuks geplaatst, helaas nu nog maar 1 stuk. 2 stuks vind ik een betere optie.

StrataNL

Zelfde capaciteiten als het schip hierboven in een Nederlands jasje (minder bemanning bijv.) en we zijn er  ;)

Erg benieuwd of dit project on time & budget uitgevoerd zal worden, zal het zeker gaan volgen!
-Strata-
Je Maintiendrai! Blog: Krijgsmacht Next-Generation

Harald

Works Start on the First Multipurpose Offshore Patrol Ship

TRIESTE --- The steel cutting ceremony of the Multipurpose Offshore Patrol Ship (Pattugliatore Polivalente d'Altura, or PPA) took place today at Fincantieri's shipyard in Muggiano (La Spezia), officially marking the beginning of construction works on the first unit.

The ceremony was attended among others by the Undersecretary of State for Defence, Domenico Rossi, by the Chief of Staff of the Italian Navy, Admiral Valter Girardelli, by the General Manager of Fincantieri, Alberto Maestrini, and by the Senior Vice President Naval Vessels Business Unit & Italy Business Unit of Fincantieri, Angelo Fusco.

The PPA, first of seven units, will be delivered in 2021 and it is part of the renewal plan of the operational lines of the Italian Navy vessels, approved by the Government and Parliament and started in May 2015.

The project as a whole involves the construction of nine units, including seven PPAs, one multipurpose amphibious unit (LHD or Landing Helicopter Dock), and one logistic support unit (LSS or Logistic Support Ship).

RINA Services is also involved in the program. The experience gained in a number of past projects, as well as the close cooperation with the Italian Navy at international level for the development of the Naval Ship Code (a standard equivalent to the SOLAS - Safety of Life at Sea, but applicable to naval vessels, developed by the International Naval Safety Association which includes RINA, the Italian Navy and the main NATO's Navies) have allowed to fine-tune the ways of cooperating, overcoming the traditional concept of class and taking the specific technical and operational needs of the Navy into greater account.

Vessel's characteristics: PPA – Multipurpose Offshore Patrol Ship

The multipurpose offshore patrol vessel is a highly flexible ship with the capacity to serve multiple functions, ranging from patrol with sea rescue capacity to Civil Protection operations and, in its most highly equipped version, first line fighting vessel. There will be indeed different configurations of combat system: starting from a "soft" version for the patrol task, integrated for self-defence ability, to a "full" one, equipped for a complete defence ability.

The vessel is also capable of operating high-speed vessels such as RHIB (Rigid Hull Inflatable Boat) up to 11 meters long through lateral cranes or a hauling ramp located at the far stern.

-- 132.5 meters long
-- Speed: more than 33 knots according to vessel configuration and operational conditions
-- 171 persons of the crew
-- Equipped with a combined diesel, a gas turbine plant (CODAG) and an electric propulsion system
-- Capacity to supply drinking water to land
-- Capacity to provide electricity to land with 2000 kw of power
-- 2 modular zones at the stern and at the center of the ship that allow the embarking of various types of containerized operating/logistic/residential/healthcare modules (in particular, the stern area may receive and handle within a covered area up to 5 modules in ISO 20" containers, while the central zone may receive and handle up to 8 ISO 20" containers)

The PPAs will be built at the Integrated Shipyard of Riva Trigoso and Muggiano, with delivery expected, for the first vessel of the class, in 2021, while the following deliveries will take place in 2022, 2023, 2024 (two units), 2025 and 2026.

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/181093/fincantieri-cuts-first-metal-on-new-italian-ppa-frigates.html