Nederlandse defensie industrie

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Master Mack

Citaat van: Harald op 27/03/2024 | 10:35 uurDe Goalkeepers zouden idd een 2de leven kunnen krijgen door ze te gebruiken als een soort "container" SHORAD versie om "vaste doelen" te beschermen, bijvoorbeeld belangrijke industrie, havens, knooppunten, maar dat zouden dan ook militaire installaties, gebouwen en/of tijdelijk militaire kampementen kunnen zijn.

Enigzins gelijk aan de testopstelling van de Goalkeeper


2de leven voor de GK's zou niet gek zijn.

Harald

Citaat van: Ace1 op 26/03/2024 | 23:01 uurWas dit de CIWS die gebaseerd was op de twee boord kanonnen van de Cheeta. Daar heb ik over gehoord en dat bleek geen succes te zijn.
Citaat van: Parera op 26/03/2024 | 23:21 uurNee dat was de voorganger van dit idee.


Harald

Citaat van: Huzaar1 op 26/03/2024 | 23:11 uurDit apparaat is uiteindelijk de goalkeeper geworden bedoelde ik.

N.m.m. nog steeds relevant en met drones misschien nog relevanter. Wellicht toepassingen voor CLAS.
De Goalkeepers zouden idd een 2de leven kunnen krijgen door ze te gebruiken als een soort "container" SHORAD versie om "vaste doelen" te beschermen, bijvoorbeeld belangrijke industrie, havens, knooppunten, maar dat zouden dan ook militaire installaties, gebouwen en/of tijdelijk militaire kampementen kunnen zijn. 

Enigzins gelijk aan de testopstelling van de Goalkeeper

Parera

Citaat van: Ace1 op 26/03/2024 | 23:01 uurWas dit de CIWS die gebaseerd was op de twee boord kanonnen van de Cheeta. Daar heb ik over gehoord en dat bleek geen succes te zijn.

Nee dat was de voorganger van dit idee.

Huzaar1

Citaat van: Harald op 26/03/2024 | 21:08 uurDie is nog steeds goed ..  ;)
Misschien onze GK op een G5 onderstel monteren, GK SPAAG ..  :hrmph:

 :omg: oeps ... dat wordt em niet.
Hoogte van GK is al 3,71 meter bovendeks.


Dit apparaat is uiteindelijk de goalkeeper geworden bedoelde ik.

N.m.m. nog steeds relevant en met drones misschien nog relevanter. Wellicht toepassingen voor CLAS.
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion" US secmindef - Jed Babbin"

Ace1

Citaat van: Parera op 26/03/2024 | 19:46 uurEen stukje terug in de tijd qua defensie industrie

The SEM-30 (Signaal-Emmerson-Mauser) was a CIWS investigated by the Netherlands for Goalkeeper that used 4 Mauser 30mm guns. It lost out to the GAU-8 solution (SGE-30) on grounds of accuracy and fire rate:

During the Assist investigation, various combinations of sensors, fire-control systems and weapons were evaluated. The easiest task, according to Signaal, was to select the radar and fire-control system.
The choice of weapon proved more difficult. Studies had shown that a gun with a calibre of at least 30mm and a high rate of fire was necessary. A twin 35mm mount was investigated at first but was found to have an insufficient firing rate: analysis had shown that a rate of at least 3,000 rounds/min, coupled with a very low dispersion, would be needed to counter the projected threat from supersonic missiles.
The second concept, designated SEM-30, was based on an Emerson Electric mount carrying four Mauser 30mm single-barrelled cannon. Problems of focussing the barrels to a single optimised aiming point, together with the relatively low MRBF (mean rounds between failure) of reciprocating guns, were however foreseen for this solution. In addition, further analysis had revealed that a firing rate even higher than 3,000 rounds/min was desirable against a manoeuvring target.
Signaal and the RNeth N therefore selected the General Electric GAU-8/A seven-barrel 30mm Gatling as the best overall weapon
for Goalkeeper, and this combination was designated SGE-30. The GAU-8/A has the advantages of a 4,200 rounds/min firing rate combined with low dispersion and high reliability.




SEM-30 is designed to 'kill' target missiles by direct hit, having a design dispersion of only 1.5 mrad. Each rigidly-mounted barrel fires at a rate of 800 rpm and a muzzle velocity of 1,400 m/sec. Mount elevation and azimuth training velocities are 80°/sec and
100°/sec, respectively, and accelerations in these axes are 125°/sec² and 200°/sec². Weight of mount is 5,416 kg and system weight totals 7,463 kg.


https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/naval-gun-projects.1672/page-7#post-666257

Was dit de CIWS die gebaseerd was op de twee boord kanonnen van de Cheeta. Daar heb ik over gehoord en dat bleek geen succes te zijn.

Harald

Citaat van: Huzaar1 op 26/03/2024 | 20:22 uurDe Goalkeeper was uiteindelijk een stuk beter ;)

Die is nog steeds goed ..  ;)
Misschien onze GK op een G5 onderstel monteren, GK SPAAG ..  :hrmph:

 :omg: oeps ... dat wordt em niet.
Hoogte van GK is al 3,71 meter bovendeks.

Huzaar1

Citaat van: Harald op 26/03/2024 | 20:08 uur:big-smile:  cooool ding

Misschien terug in de tijd, maar in deze tijd toch weer "hot"

De Goalkeeper was uiteindelijk een stuk beter ;)
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion" US secmindef - Jed Babbin"

Harald

 :big-smile:  cooool ding

Misschien terug in de tijd, maar in deze tijd toch weer "hot"

Parera

#2129
Een stukje terug in de tijd qua defensie industrie

The SEM-30 (Signaal-Emmerson-Mauser) was a CIWS investigated by the Netherlands for Goalkeeper that used 4 Mauser 30mm guns. It lost out to the GAU-8 solution (SGE-30) on grounds of accuracy and fire rate:

During the Assist investigation, various combinations of sensors, fire-control systems and weapons were evaluated. The easiest task, according to Signaal, was to select the radar and fire-control system.
The choice of weapon proved more difficult. Studies had shown that a gun with a calibre of at least 30mm and a high rate of fire was necessary. A twin 35mm mount was investigated at first but was found to have an insufficient firing rate: analysis had shown that a rate of at least 3,000 rounds/min, coupled with a very low dispersion, would be needed to counter the projected threat from supersonic missiles.
The second concept, designated SEM-30, was based on an Emerson Electric mount carrying four Mauser 30mm single-barrelled cannon. Problems of focussing the barrels to a single optimised aiming point, together with the relatively low MRBF (mean rounds between failure) of reciprocating guns, were however foreseen for this solution. In addition, further analysis had revealed that a firing rate even higher than 3,000 rounds/min was desirable against a manoeuvring target.
Signaal and the RNeth N therefore selected the General Electric GAU-8/A seven-barrel 30mm Gatling as the best overall weapon
for Goalkeeper, and this combination was designated SGE-30. The GAU-8/A has the advantages of a 4,200 rounds/min firing rate combined with low dispersion and high reliability.




SEM-30 is designed to 'kill' target missiles by direct hit, having a design dispersion of only 1.5 mrad. Each rigidly-mounted barrel fires at a rate of 800 rpm and a muzzle velocity of 1,400 m/sec. Mount elevation and azimuth training velocities are 80°/sec and
100°/sec, respectively, and accelerations in these axes are 125°/sec² and 200°/sec². Weight of mount is 5,416 kg and system weight totals 7,463 kg.


https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/naval-gun-projects.1672/page-7#post-666257

Harald


Harald

Rheinmetall acquires Dutch startup REEQ to add light hybrid vehicles to its portfolio

Rheinmetall has acquired the Dutch startup REEQ, thereby expanding its vehicle portfolio to include innovative light hybrid vehicles. At the beginning of March 2024, the technology group's Dutch subsidiary Rheinmetall Defence Nederland B.V., which is part of the Vehicle Systems Division, acquired 100% of the shares in the Dutch start-up REEQ. Rheinmetall is thus expanding its portfolio of lightweight tactical vehicles and also taking the step towards hybrid technology with a fully electric drivetrain in a military vehicle.

With its vehicles, REEQ has developed a new generation of mobility that combines tactical transport with a mobile energy source (microgrid) and is fully prepared for autonomy. The technology was developed and is produced in the Netherlands.

Currently, REEQ's vehicle portfolio consists of an Unmanned Ground Vehicle (UGV), a side-by-side buggy and a quad, all three with the same fully electric drive train (www.REEQ.com). Through the acquisition of REEQ, Rheinmetall can serve the Dutch and European markets in the field of light tactical mobility, both manned and unmanned, in combination with a microgrid solution. Rheinmetall's industrial strength and the innovative power of a start-up complement each other. Within the Rheinmetall Group, REEQ retains its status as a start-up in the field of development. The further development and series production of these vehicles will also take place in the Netherlands.

With this acquisition, Rheinmetall is responding to the many calls from Dutch politicians and defense leaders to contribute with industrial strength and specialization to the operational user and strengthening of the defense industry. With the development and production from the Netherlands, the strategic autonomy and the Dutch position in the field of military electrification and autonomy in the international defense industry have also been strengthened.

Located in the city of Ede, Rheinmetall Defence Nederland B.V. is part of the Vehicle Systems Division and is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Rheinmetall Landsysteme GmbH.

REEQ is a Dutch start-up and has been in existence since 2018. In that year REEQ carried out a first innovation project regarding electromobility in the military sector on behalf of the Dutch Ministry of Defence. In later years, REEQ has developed further in this field of experience.

https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_march_2024_global_security_army_industry/rheinmetall_acquires_dutch_startup_reeq_to_add_light_hybrid_vehicles_to_its_portfolio.html

Parera

Een sneak peak van de nieuwe website van Damen rondom de Nederlandse marine.

https://koninklijkemarine.damen.com/

silvester herc

Citaat van: silvester herc op 04/03/2024 | 13:18 uurKan men toch gewoon in de brief vermelden we zijn met de Britten zo ver of we gaan wel of niet samen verder met ontwerpen van de opvolger van de LPD's wel viel op dat hij vergat te vermelden dat de LPX? ook de vervangers van de P Boten zijn ? Ik ben erg benieuwd  ;)

silvester herc

Citaat van: Harald op 03/03/2024 | 21:27 uurDaar ben ik ook bang voor, dat Damen nu volgeboekt wordt met de vervanging van de oppervlakte schepen. Eerst de ASWF order, nu de vLCF, volgende week de vLPD.

Dus dan de onderwater schepen op 15 maart naar een buitenlandse werf en als de gelekte info juist is, dan krijgt het Franse Naval Group de opdracht om de 4 onderzeeboten te bouwen.

Opzich wel verrassend dat er volgende week al info baar buiten komt over de vervanging van de LPD, (ook LPX? ) ik dacht dat er nog een onderzoek liep met de Britten naar de invulling van de vervanging.
Kan men toch gewoon in de brief vermelden we zij met de Britten zo ver of we gaan wel of niet samen verder met ontwerpen van de opvolger van de LPD's wel viel op dat hij vergat te vermelden dat de LPX? ook de vervangers van de P Boten zijn ?