Nieuwe ontwikkelingen op BOXER gebied

Gestart door Ace1, 02/11/2013 | 15:37 uur

JdL

Citaat van: Strata op 11/12/2015 | 15:56 uur
Foto?
Ik heb nooit een boxer met UT30 gezien en weet ook niet of die al bestaat maar dat hoge wapensysteem met zichtbare patroonbanden en sensoren op de boxer lijkt me geen potje
Maar ieder zijn mening
En misschien valt het mee als we de eerste exemplaren te zien krijgen
'The goal is world peace, and to do so you must have strength' Ronald Reagan

StrataNL

Citaat van: JdL op 11/12/2015 | 15:36 uur
Kan de lance geen spike meevoeren?
Persoonlijk vind ik de boxer met UT30 er niet uit zien maar dat is natuurlijk van ondergeschikt belang

Foto?
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JdL

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Citaat van: Mourning op 11/12/2015 | 15:31 uur
Waarschijnlijk combinatie van de Spike ER ATGW's in de koepel en kosten?

Kan de lance geen spike meevoeren?
Persoonlijk vind ik de boxer met UT30 er niet uit zien maar dat is natuurlijk van ondergeschikt belang
'The goal is world peace, and to do so you must have strength' Ronald Reagan

Sparkplug

Citaat van: Harald op 11/12/2015 | 14:46 uur
idd, maar er wordt expliciet over de toevoeging van Spike raketten gesproken, dus lijkt me de Samson voor de hand liggen.
Zou voor de hand liggen, omdat beide van Rafael zijn. Echter kan de Elbit Systems UT30 ook van diverse ATGM worden voorzien.

We wachten wel het officiële bericht met alle uiteindelijke specificaties af.
A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

Mourning

Waarschijnlijk combinatie van de Spike ER ATGW's in de koepel en kosten?
"The only thing necessary for Evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"- Edmund Burke
"War is the continuation of politics by all other means", Carl von Clausewitz, Vom Kriege/On War (1830).

JdL

Iemand enig idee waarom er voor de elbit toren is gekozen ipv de lance?
'The goal is world peace, and to do so you must have strength' Ronald Reagan

Harald

Citaat van: Sparkplug op 11/12/2015 | 14:34 uur
Echter is de Samson MkII 30 mm van Rafael en er wordt gesproken over een toren van Elbit Systems. Zij hebben de UT30.
idd, maar er wordt expliciet over de toevoeging van Spike raketten gesproken, dus lijkt me de Samson voor de hand liggen.

Sparkplug

Citaat van: Harald op 11/12/2015 | 14:23 uur
Klopt, Samson 30 mm MkII met Spike ER
Echter is de Samson MkII 30 mm van Rafael en er wordt gesproken over een toren van Elbit Systems. Zij hebben de UT30.

Brochure Rafael Samson MkII 30 mm
http://www.rafael.co.il/marketing/SIP_STORAGE/FILES/7/1267.pdf

Brochure Elbit Systems UT30
http://elbitsystems.com/Elbitmain/files/UT30.PDF
A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

Harald

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Citaat van: Strata op 11/12/2015 | 14:16 uur
Elbit toren ipv Lance?

Klopt, Samson 30 mm MkII met Spike ER



StrataNL

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Harald

Lithuania picks German Boxer IFVs for EUR 400m armament upgrade

Lithuania will open talks with German manufacturers over to purchase Boxer infantry fighting vehicles (IFV) for the country's military, the State Defence Council (VGT) decided on Friday.

The decision of the VGT was announced on Friday by the chief presidential advisor on national security affairs Valdemaras Sarapinas."The State Defence Council made the decision unanimously," he reported.

Lithuania wants to buy Boxer IFVs with Elbit System of 30mm unmanned turrets, a 7.62 mm machine gun, and Spike long range anti-tank missiles.
The country plans to pay EUR 400m to purchase 88 IFVs, among which 84 IFVs will be used for combat operations and the remaining four for commanders.
The first vehicles are expected to reach Lithuania in 2017, while a complete order should be executed by 2019.

The purchase is being conducted via the international organisation for weaponry procurement the Joint Organisation for Armaments Cooperation (OCCAR).According to Chief of Defence of Lithuania Lieutenant General Jonas Vytautas Žukas, this is going to be the largest army modernisation project so far in Lithuania. He says that Boxer IFVs are the most suitable for Lithuania in terms of the provisions of its armed defence conception and operating environment.

Read more: http://en.delfi.lt/lithuania/defence/lithuania-picks-german-boxer-ifvs-for-eur-400m-armament-upgrade.d?id=69828782

dudge

Patria, Artec, Iveco, Nexter, GDLS + LMUK en Otokar, FNSS + Elbit.
Is een concurrerende markt. 

Sparkplug

Lithuania closes in on IFV selection

Nicholas de Larrinaga, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly | 29 October 2015

Lithuania will make a decision on what type of new 8x8 infantry fighting vehicle (IFV) it will purchase at the end of November, the Lithuanian Ministry of Defence (MoD) said on 29 October.

The MoD stated that it had hoped to have selected a vehicle by now, but had recently received two government proposals (from the United States and Poland) and needed additional time to evaluate them.

The new 8x8 will replace the country's aging M113 tracked armoured personnel carriers. These will initially be used to equip two battalions of the country's 'Iron Wolf' mechanised infantry brigade, for which 60-72 IFVs will be required - although the country may later buy a second batch of vehicles.

The MoD also revealed the various bidders for the requirement. In addition to the two government-to-government (G2G) proposals, there are 10 bidding companies: Patria's AMV fitted with the UT 30 Mk 2 turret; the ARTEC Boxer fitted with the RCT 30 or Lance 30 turret; the Iveco Superav fitted with the UT 30 Mk2 turret; the Nexter VBCI with the T25 or T40 turret; the General Dynamics Land Systems LAV II with the Kongsberg MCT30 turret; the Otokar Arma and Mizrak-30 turret; and the FNSS Pars with the E30 turret. Meanwhile, Elbit has separately bid its UT 30 Mk1 and Mk2 turrets, while Lockheed Martin UK has offered its 40 CTAS turret.

In July the MoD's Materiel Acquisition Commission recommended the Boxer for the requirement, although the final decision will be made by Lithuania's State Defence Council - comprising Lithuania's President, Defence Minister, Chief of Defence and the speaker of the Lithuanian Parliament.

http://www.janes.com/article/55657/lithuania-closes-in-on-ifv-selection
A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

Huzaar1

Citaat van: Harald op 14/09/2015 | 09:23 uur
Er wordt nu duidelijk aangegeven dat het Duitse wheeled rapid response brigade, waarschijnlijk uitgerust gaat worden met Boxers met 30mm Lance, eigenlijk dezelfde als welke op de PUMA is gemonteerd, incl. Spike

IHS Jane's understands that the main vehicle platform for the new formation could be based on the so-called 'PuBo', a Boxer Multirole Armoured Vehicle 8x8 chassis featuring an adapted 30 mm cannon-armed turret of the Puma tracked infantry fighting vehicle currently in development by German industry. For operations against hardened and armoured targets, the PuBo could be armed with the multi-purpose, light guided missile system, the Bundeswehr's variant of the Rafael Spike-LR fire-and-forget anti-tank guided missile.

http://www.janes.com/article/54144/german-army-considers-wheeled-rapid-response-brigade



Nee, dan lees je het verkeerd.mer is helemaal geen uitspraak gedaan over de uitrusting van boxer met spike. De journalist zegt enkel dat het op t apparaat kan. Niet de bundeswehr.
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Harald

Er wordt nu duidelijk aangegeven dat het Duitse wheeled rapid response brigade, waarschijnlijk uitgerust gaat worden met Boxers met 30mm Lance, eigenlijk dezelfde als welke op de PUMA is gemonteerd, incl. Spike

IHS Jane's understands that the main vehicle platform for the new formation could be based on the so-called 'PuBo', a Boxer Multirole Armoured Vehicle 8x8 chassis featuring an adapted 30 mm cannon-armed turret of the Puma tracked infantry fighting vehicle currently in development by German industry. For operations against hardened and armoured targets, the PuBo could be armed with the multi-purpose, light guided missile system, the Bundeswehr's variant of the Rafael Spike-LR fire-and-forget anti-tank guided missile.

http://www.janes.com/article/54144/german-army-considers-wheeled-rapid-response-brigade