Harpoon upgrade

[Harald]

IAI And Thales Join Forces To Offer SEA SERPENT Anti-Ship Missile To The Royal Navy   ( best interessant )

Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) and THALES in the UK have joined forces to offer SEA SERPENT as a compelling solution to equip the Royal Navy's Type 23 frigates with an anti-ship and anti-surface missile that can match and overmatch a rapidly expanding range and intensity of current and emerging threats.

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https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/04/iai-and-thales-join-forces-to-offer-sea-serpent-anti-ship-missile-to-the-royal-navy/

[Huzaar1]

Is dat ding niet allang over zijn product elot heen.

[Harald]

Support voor de NL Harpoons

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/05/boeing-awarded-3-1-billion-in-u-s-navy-contracts-for-cruise-missile-systems/


It will also procures and delivers 467 Harpoon full rate production Lot 91 Block II missiles and support equipment for various Foreign Military Sales customers:
•Four Block II missiles and support equipment for the government of Brazil,
•Eight Block II missiles and support equipment for the government of Thailand,
•53 Block II missiles and support equipment for the government of Qatar,
•402 Block II missiles and support equipment for the government of Saudi Arabia,
•Support equipment for the governments of Japan, the Netherlands, India and Korea.

Work is expected to be complete by December 2026.

[Harald]

UK MoD Issues Notice for Interim SSGW Anti-Ship Missiles

The United Kingdom Ministry of Defense (MoD) issued a prior information notice (PIN) for a Next Generation Surface Ship Guided Weapon (SSGW) contract for the Royal Navy.

The UK MoD Weapons, Torpedoes, Tomahawk and Harpoon (TTH) Project Team issued the PIN March 8, 2019. Note that a PIN isn't a tender but is a notice used to set out a contracting authority's purchasing intentions. A PIN is mostly used by contracting authorities to provide suppliers with information that they are planning a procurement process and provides suppliers with as much information as possible at an early stage.

The PIN explains that the UK MoD has a possible future requirement to procure a next generation ship launched anti-ship weapon system for use within training and operational roles with the Royal Navy. First delivery of the ship installed equipment would be required by December 2022 and first delivery of missiles would be required by December 2023. The potential contract will be for 4 years, with the potential of option years to follow (up to 9 more years), the potential contract would cover the following activities:
Manufacture and delivery of the weapon system to be delivered in Financial Year 2023/2024.
Installation of the weapon system onto Royal Navy ships.
Provision and support of interface requirements to assist ships installation.
Provision of train the trainer courses.
Maintenance and technical support for the operational upkeep of the weapon system.

Should this requirement proceed, a Contract Notice will be published in due course with more precise requirements and interested parties will be invited to complete an online pre-qualification questionnaire, which will be measured against selected criteria in terms of commercial and technical requirements.

The technical requirement will be base lined against the user requirements and include questions regarding:
•battlefield effect,
•terminal effect,
•interoperability: climatic and environment,
•munition sensitivity,
•system and design safety,
•human factors,
•deployability,
•training,
•sustainability and supply chain,
•Capability resilience and reliability.

Evidence will be required at the pre-qualification questionnaire stage to demonstrate the weapon system can meet the MoD's requirement set. The estimated value for the contract excluding VAT ranges between 100 000 000 and 200 000 000 GBP.

The Royal Navy's surface fleet (Type 23 frigates and some of the Type 45 destroyers) currently deploys with Harpoon Block 1C procured back in the 1980s. The ageing system was set to reach its end of shelf life in 2018, but this has been pushed back to 2023. The Future Cruise/Anti-Ship Weapon (FC/ASW), an ongoing joint UK / France program, won't be ready until 2030ies at best and the Royal Navy needs an interim, off the shelf anti-ship missile solution for its current and future surface fleet (with the first Type 26 frigate set to be delivered around 2025).

Likely bidders for the the SSGW requirement include Lockheed Martin with the Long Range Anti-Ship Missile (LRASM), Kongsberg with the Naval Strike Missile (NSM) and Saab's RBS15 Mk4 , three anti-ship missiles of the latest generation. Another likely bidder is MBDA, Europe's leading missile producer, with the Exocet MM40 in its latest variant: Block 3C. Block 3C uses a new, advanced, coherent RF seeker. It will be the French Navy's anti-ship missile of choice for the next few years until delivery of the FC/ASW.

Other (less likely) bidders may include IAI with Gabriel V Advanced Naval Attack Missile (also using a coherent RF seeker) from Israel which was recently selected by the Finnish Navy, South Korea's C-Star by LIG Nex1, Japan's Type 90 by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries or Taiwan's Hsiung Feng II or III.

Of course another option might just be a foreign military sale of Boeing Harpoon into the latest version dubbed "RGM-84Q-4" or Block II+ .

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2019/03/uk-mod-issues-notice-for-interim-ssgw-anti-ship-missiles/

[Sparkplug]

The US Navy's upgraded Harpoon ship-killer missile is in line for a boost from Congress

https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2018/07/28/the-us-navys-upgraded-harpoon-ship-killer-missile-in-line-for-a-boost-from-congress/

[Parera]

UK considers options for possible off-the-shelf Harpoon replacement

http://www.janes.com/article/82025/uk-considers-options-for-possible-off-the-shelf-harpoon-replacement

Ja waarom zouden ze ook een eigen missile ontwerpen? Kosten veel zijn te hoog en de vraag is hoeveel ze er uiteindelijk gaan aankopen / exporteren.

[Sparkplug]

UK considers options for possible off-the-shelf Harpoon replacement

http://www.janes.com/article/82025/uk-considers-options-for-possible-off-the-shelf-harpoon-replacement

[Parera]

Ik zag de berichten van Saab maar ben niet onder de indruk. Er waren plannen om de mk4 te upgraden naar 1000 km bereik maar dat is blijkbaar niet gelukt.
NSM blijft mijn favoriet als opvolger voor de Nederlandse harpoons o.a. omdat het een breder inzetbaar systeem is naast oppervlakte schepen ook op onderzeeboten en vanuit de mk41 en ook in de F-35.

[Harald]

https://saab.com/rbs15family

iets meer info over de nieuwe mk4 :

RBS15 Gungnir offers the capabilities of the future. With a range of over 300 km of sea-skimming flight, all-weather capability, and an improved radar target seeker

Saab Launches the RBS15 Gungnir / RBS15 Mk4 Anti-ship Missile

Today, Saab announces the RBS15 Gungnir next generation anti-ship missile system that is being shown at the Farnborough International Airshow 2018 for the first time. The littorals in the Baltic Sea has created the foundation and birth of the RBS15 missile family, designed for the most demanding environments and customers. The littoral environment already present countless threats but conflict scenarios can change. Armed forces therefore need to evolve their capabilities and the RBS15 Gungnir provides the solution.

The new system continues the tradition of robust and autonomous all-weather capability of the RBS15 missile family but utilising a design that unlocks a new level of future growth potential.
"RBS15 Gungnir is offered in both air-launched and surface-launched configurations that offer greatly improved capabilities, compared to other missile systems on the market. With an improved range to more than 300 km and highly advanced target seeker, it gives the capability to engage any target, in all conditions," says Görgen Johansson, Senior Vice President and head of Saab business area Dynamics.
The option to engage targets from the air, as well as from land and sea gives the ability to perform coordinated attacks, with multiple missiles, against a wide range of naval and land-based targets thereby increasing mission flexibility and success.

Whilst RBS15 Mk3 delivers the capabilities that forces require today, the RBS15 Gungnir also integrates with pre-existing RBS15 infrastructure to fulfil tomorrow's defence requirements. The system is backwards compatible, so an investment in Mk3 today opens a smooth path to transition into Gungnir tomorrow.
The next generation version of the RBS15 development and production programme was first contracted in March 2017 with the Swedish Defence Material Administration (FMV). This next generation of RBS15 systems is named Gungnir. That March 2017 contract amounted to SEK 3.2 billion with deliveries to take place during the period 2017-2026. Additional production of missiles was contracted with FMV in April 2017 for MSEK 500, with deliveries to begin in the mid-2020s.
The RBS15 missile family is jointly produced by Saab and Diehl Defence GmbH & Co. KG and serves with various navies, coastal batteries and air forces from Sweden, Finland, Germany, Poland, Croatia, Thailand and an undisclosed country.

The name Gungnir is from Scandinavian mythology and refers to the Norse god Odin's spear which never missed its target. RBS15 Gungnir is the system level name whilst in the air-launched configuration the missile is called the RBS15 Mk4 Air.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2018/july-2018-navy-naval-defense-news/6351-saab-launches-the-rbs15-gungnir-rbs15-mk4-anti-ship-missile.html

[Parera]

Finland kiest voor Israelische Gabriel anti-schip raket voor gebruik vanaf hun schepen en kustbatterijen.

EDIT: update

https://navaltoday.com/2018/07/06/finland-picks-israels-gabriel-as-its-new-anti-ship-missile/

Finland picks Israel's Gabriel as its new anti-ship missile
Finnish Navy's new Squadron 2020 vessels will be fielding the Gabriel anti-ship missile. Photo: Finnish defense ministry

Finland has selected the Israel Aerospace Industries-developed Gabriel anti-ship missile to replace its current MTO85M system.

The acquisition of the Israeli missile system was approved by the Finnish defense minister Jussi Niinistö on July 5.

The IAI-delivered system will be known as SSM2020 in Finland and will be installed on Hamina-class missile boats and the new Squadron 2020 vessels which are scheduled to start construction in 2019.

Finland's current MTO85M systems (based on the Saab-developed RBS15) will reach the end of its lifecycle in the 2020s. The new SSM2020 missiles are expected to remain operational until the 2050s.

IAI's Gabriel was selected over four other systems offered, including Kongsberg's NSM, MBDA's Exocet, Boeing's Harpoon and Saab's RBS15.

The Finnish defense ministry said the main selection criteria included acquisition costs and schedule, lifecycle costs and security of supply, and compatibility with existing infrastructure and defense systems.

The ministry said the contract was worth EUR 162 million, with a EUR 193 million option. The quantities of missiles to be purchased will not be made public, it was further said.

The purchase will include launchers, missiles, simulators, test equipment, spare parts and training. The deliveries will take place between the years 2019 and 2025. SSM2020 will be maintained in Finland.

Een opvallende keuze van de Finnen, wel kiezen ze voor de Gabriel V of Advanced Naval Attack Missile (ANAM). De voorganger Gabriel IV heeft al een bereik van 200 km dus de V versie zal nog verder kunnen zeker als je kijkt naar het verschil in uiterlijk zal het een goede stap voorruit zijn.

Gabriel IV


Gabriel V / ANAM

[StrataNL]

Finland kiest voor Israelische Gabriel anti-schip raket voor gebruik vanaf hun schepen en kustbatterijen.

EDIT: update

https://navaltoday.com/2018/07/06/finland-picks-israels-gabriel-as-its-new-anti-ship-missile/

Finland picks Israel's Gabriel as its new anti-ship missile
Finnish Navy's new Squadron 2020 vessels will be fielding the Gabriel anti-ship missile. Photo: Finnish defense ministry

Finland has selected the Israel Aerospace Industries-developed Gabriel anti-ship missile to replace its current MTO85M system.

The acquisition of the Israeli missile system was approved by the Finnish defense minister Jussi Niinistö on July 5.

The IAI-delivered system will be known as SSM2020 in Finland and will be installed on Hamina-class missile boats and the new Squadron 2020 vessels which are scheduled to start construction in 2019.

Finland's current MTO85M systems (based on the Saab-developed RBS15) will reach the end of its lifecycle in the 2020s. The new SSM2020 missiles are expected to remain operational until the 2050s.

IAI's Gabriel was selected over four other systems offered, including Kongsberg's NSM, MBDA's Exocet, Boeing's Harpoon and Saab's RBS15.

The Finnish defense ministry said the main selection criteria included acquisition costs and schedule, lifecycle costs and security of supply, and compatibility with existing infrastructure and defense systems.

The ministry said the contract was worth EUR 162 million, with a EUR 193 million option. The quantities of missiles to be purchased will not be made public, it was further said.

The purchase will include launchers, missiles, simulators, test equipment, spare parts and training. The deliveries will take place between the years 2019 and 2025. SSM2020 will be maintained in Finland.

[Parera]

Ik had de RBS15 mk4 al een beetje losgelaten als Harpoon vervanger, mede omdat Duitsland zich naar de NSM bewoog en het heel stil was rond de mk4.
Erg benieuwd naar de nadere info, maar ga er wel vanuit dat dit de concurrent word van de NSM wat betreft vervanging van de Harpoon in Nederland.

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Laten we de voor en nadelen van beide systemen naast elkaar leggen en zien wat voor ons de beste optie is. NSM is heel lang #1 geweest maar ik ben benieuwd of RBS-15 mk4 (of wat er mag komen) dat kan veranderen.

[StrataNL]

Ik had de RBS15 mk4 al een beetje losgelaten als Harpoon vervanger, mede omdat Duitsland zich naar de NSM bewoog en het heel stil was rond de mk4.
Erg benieuwd naar de nadere info, maar ga er wel vanuit dat dit de concurrent word van de NSM wat betreft vervanging van de Harpoon in Nederland.

[Harald]

Zeker we wachten af,  interessant om te volgen. Wel zijn ze wat traag in verhouding met de concurrentie maar misschien is dat ook aangepast in de mk4.
De grote vraag is word het de RBS-15 of misschien de RBS-?? met daarin de tech die ontwikkeld is voor de mk4 maar met nog meer nieuwe tech waardoor het een snellere en betere raket is met meer bereik.

Iets van de specs was al bekend...

The new version will sport improved combat range, an upgraded target seeker and reduced weight compared to the present Mk3 version which have a 200-plus km range, active radar seeker and 800 kg weight with booster.

The all-weather fire and forget subsonic missile is powered by a rocket engine in the initial boost phase ( only for surface/ ship launched version), and a turbojet engine in the cruise phase. The missile uses INS and GPS for navigation and flies a sea skimming flight trajectory to evade enemy radars.

In the terminal phase, the missile will have increased thrust and can penetrate enemy counter measures with built in Electronic Counter Countermeasures (ECCM) system.

The missile's large and lethal 200 kg blast and fragmentation warhead is triggered by delayed impact or proximity fuse function, causing a devastating impact on any target, including large naval vessels.

http://www.aviationanalysis.net/2017/04/saab-to-develop-new-rbs15-mk4-anti-ship.html

[Parera]

idd, als het bereik daadwerkelijk 1000-1500 km is, dan is het zeker een zeer interessante anti-scheeps raket met een vele malen groter bereik dan de NSM.
Misschien tevens een goed alternatief voor Tomahawks ?

Maar eerst maar even wachten totdat we daadwerkelijk enige specs over de Mk4 te zien krijgen. en daarbij we zullen nooit via publiekelijke bronnen de eigenlijke specs te zien krijgen, maar goed.

Zeker we wachten af,  interessant om te volgen. Wel zijn ze wat traag in verhouding met de concurrentie maar misschien is dat ook aangepast in de mk4.
De grote vraag is word het de RBS-15 of misschien de RBS-?? met daarin de tech die ontwikkeld is voor de mk4 maar met nog meer nieuwe tech waardoor het een snellere en betere raket is met meer bereik.