Egypte ; Defensie aankopen/ opbouw materieel

Gestart door Harald, 28/08/2015 | 11:08 uur

ARM-WAP

Citaat van: Mourning op 27/11/2015 | 10:34 uur
Ik ben er nog steeds voor om extra te investeren in alternatieve energiebronnen om onze afhankelijheid van die chaos daar te verkleinen en onze handelingsvrijheid zonder idioot grote gevolgen voor onszelf te kunnen vergroten...
Wat nucleair (de Fransen halen meer dan 90% van hun energie daaruit).
Daarmee heb je dan meteen iets bestendig dat altijd beschikbaar is.

En mss ook wat uit getijdewerking...
Moet toch haalbaar zijn, met al die Deltaplanbouwsels?

Mourning

Citaat van: jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter) op 27/11/2015 | 10:23 uur
Maakt het leven aan de zuid kant van Europa wel zo spannend.... :(

Gelukkig zitten er nog wat landen tussen hen en ons. Ik denk ook niet direct aan een veroveringsgolf, maar wel veel minder footprints in de regio... en dat is problematisch. Ik ben er nog steeds voor om extra te investeren in alternatieve energiebronnen om onze afhankelijheid van die chaos daar te verkleinen en onze handelingsvrijheid zonder idioot grote gevolgen voor onszelf te kunnen vergroten...
"The only thing necessary for Evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"- Edmund Burke
"War is the continuation of politics by all other means", Carl von Clausewitz, Vom Kriege/On War (1830).

jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter)

Citaat van: Mourning op 27/11/2015 | 10:13 uur
Ongelooflijk...

Je moet er niet aan denken dat er in Saoedie Arabie en/of Egypte een machtwisseling komt met een engiszins Jihadistische en anti-Westerse inslag.

Maakt het leven aan de zuid kant van Europa wel zo spannend.... :(

Mourning

Ongelooflijk...

Je moet er niet aan denken dat er in Saoedie Arabie en/of Egypte een machtwisseling komt met een engiszins Jihadistische en anti-Westerse inslag.
"The only thing necessary for Evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"- Edmund Burke
"War is the continuation of politics by all other means", Carl von Clausewitz, Vom Kriege/On War (1830).

Harald

Egypt Nears Order for A400M Airlifter

PARIS --- An Egyptian order for Airbus A400M military transport aircraft is looking increasingly plausible and Spanish media confirming initial reports of such a sale say that up to 12 aircraft could be involved.

The sale to Egypt was first reported by AndaluciaInformaciones.es, a Spanish news website, which said that Pilar Albiac, the Airbus DS executive vice-president for operations, told the Airbus DS board that Egypt had made its first order during a meeting at the Seville plant, where the A400M is assembled,

Albiac did not say how many aircraft Egypt had ordered, but on Nov. 24 the Spanish outlet, quoting unidentified aviation industry sources, said the order will cover twelve aircraft at a cost of €150 million each. That puts the total value at €1.8 billion, excluding any specific capabilities or equipment that Egypt may require, whose cost would increase total price.

Airbus has not confirmed that a sale has been concluded, but a mid-November visit by Egyptian Defense Minister Sedki Sobhi to Airbus' Seville-San Pablo plant is seen as another corroborating factor.

Another Spanish media outlet, Infodefensa.com, quoted an unidentified industry official as confirming the deal, but saying that "the number of aircraft is much exaggerated." An Egyptian contract for that many aircraft "is not going to happen," the official said.

Egypt currently operates 26 Lockheed C-130 Hercules, however, as well as 9 DHC-5 Buffalos and 24 Airbus C295, so an order for 12 A400Ms, no doubt paid for by Saudi Arabia, does not appear outsized.

Egypt also is said to be requesting early delivery, but this looks unlikely given that Airbus Defence and Space continues to lag behind scheduled deliveries to the A400M partner nations.

Such an order would go a long way to absorbing Spain's excess order, as it has ordered 27 A400Ms to respect its original commitment but, in fact, requires only 13. The amended contract between partner nations, renegotiated when the program was reset in 2010, allows the re-sale of excess aircraft to third-party customers.

The sale is being handled very gingerly by Airbus because of fears the German government might veto supplying military equipment to a country whose military régime has been criticized for riding roughshod over democratic niceties.

The German government's Federal Security Council is tasked with authorizing the export of military equipment on a case-b-case basis. Saudi Arabia, for example, was unable to buy up to 800 Leopard tanks because their hull is made in Germany. This veto also affected General Dynamics, whose Spanish unit SBS at Alcala de Guadaira (Sevilla), among others. The council has, however, recently authorized the sale of other equipment to Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Kuwait.

Along with Egypt, other Arab country, Jordan, has joined the list of potential buyers of the A400M. Jordanian King Abdullah II, accompanied by Spain's King Philip VI, saw a presentation of the aircraft in Getafe (Madrid) last week, and it is unlikely the two monarchs would have bothered were a sale not being discussed.

Another head of state who has been personally involved in a possible purchase is Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto, who also inspected the plane in person during a visit to Spain. Mexico already operates 22 Airbus C295 light transport aircraft.

The UAE is the fourth country with which Airbus is negotiating, with more immediate prospects. This confirms that the accident last May 9 of an A400M in Seville is not affecting export prospects.

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/release/169181/egypt-nears-order-for-a400m-airlifter.html

Harald

Egypt, Russia Negotiating Missile Sale

Russian State Technologies Corporation (ROSTEC) says it is holding pre-contract delivery negotiations for the supply of the Antey 2500 and Buk missile systems ordered by Egypt in 2014 to upgrade the capabilities of its Air Defense Force (ADF).

According to a military source quoted by Interfax in March this year, the missile order is part of the multi-billion Russian-Egyptian arms deal of 2014 and involves the supply of Buk air-to-air missiles, the Antey 2500 (S-300VM) anti-ballistic missile system, command posts, spares and accessories at a cost of US$1 billion. Egypt will also receive auxiliary technological equipment,launchers and other essential equipment to support the system.

According to the initial agreement, deliveries are expected to start later this year and be complete by late 2016.

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voor gehele artikel, zie LINK
http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/2015/11/24/egypt-russia-negotiating-missile-sale/76330914/

dudge

Egypt's Acquisition of the Mistral Amphibious Assault Ship: An Operational Analysis

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Conclusion

Rounding up, Egypt's acquisition of the Mistral seems to mark a quantum leap in its capacity to project force; the platform offers multiple capabilities previously unavailable to Cairo. Nonetheless, Egypt is unlikely to utilize the Mistral optimally because of its lack of experience in such crucial areas like handling such a sizable and complex vessel, ship-borne helicopter operations, and integrated naval task force maneuvers. With these in mind, it would be an extremely steep learning curve for Egypt vis-à-vis her most ambitious naval acquisition so far. While most nations, including advanced ones, also struggle with regard to adopting new military technology, Egypt's case is especially pronounced considering its people's general lack of technical proficiency.

Going forward, there has been talk of the Egyptian Mistrals operating with Saudi units as part of a joint Arab force; after all, Saudi money is believed to be behind the procurement of these platforms. However, "jointness" is difficult to achieve even between the service arms of a particular country, let alone with another country. Such an arrangement, if it ever materializes, is likely to further complicate Egyptian Mistral operations.

In the final analysis, it is worth noting that countries that are able to operate effectively aviation-capable platforms like the Mistral belong at least to the category of nations regarded as "medium powers". Think Japan with its Izumo-class "helicopter destroyers" and South Korea with its Dokdos. This invariably raises the following question: was the Egyptian Mistral acquisition grounded in operational realities, or was it an vainglorious decision conditioned by the fact that large amphibious warfare ships are so du jour nowadays? During the Second World War, there was a famous saying in Japanese naval circles that went: "The three great follies of the world are the Great Wall of China, the Pyramids and the battleship Yamato." In the near future, could this statement be modified to include the Mistral? Based on the current state of affairs, it is highly probable.

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http://www.isn.ethz.ch/Digital-Library/Articles/Detail/?lng=en&id=194196

Sparkplug

Egypt to Procure Additional E-2C Hawkeye

Forecast International | October 20, 2015

NEWTOWN, Conn. --- Egypt is to get an additional Northrop Grumman E-2C Hawkeye early warning and control aircraft.

On October 15, The United States Naval Air Systems Command (NAVAIR) said it intends to award Northrop Grumman Systems Corporation a contract to provide the supplies and services necessary to deliver an ex-US Navy E-2C (aircraft A-97) to the Egyptian Air Force (EAF) and get it operational within approximately three months.

In December 1999, Egypt finalized a contract to modernize its existing five E-2C Hawkeye airborne early warning (AEW) aircraft with extensive radar (APS-145), mission computer, and workstation upgrades to bring them up to the Hawkeye 2000 standard. An additional E-2C that had already been upgraded to the Hawkeye 2000 standard was transferred in February 2003. The first upgraded versions were redelivered to Egypt in February 2003, followed by delivery of another one in early 2004 and yet another in May 2005. Upgrades to the remainder were completed in April 2007.

In October 2007, the U.S. Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) notified Congress of a potential sale of two more E-2C AEW aircraft, which would include parts and service. The first was delivered to the Egyptian Air Force in December 2010. Earlier, in June 2008, Northrop Grumman was awarded a $38 million contract to bring this aircraft up to the latest Hawkeye 2000 standard before delivery.

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/168040/egypt-to-receive-additional-e_2c-hawkeye-from-us-navy-stocks.html
A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

Harald

Russia to Supply Equipment, Helicopters for Egyptian Mistral Ships

NOVO-OGARYOVO --- Russia will supply equipment and helicopters worth over $1 billion for the Egyptian Mistral helicopter carriers, the Kremlin chief of staff said Monday.

Cairo and Paris signed a contract earlier this month for the purchase of two French-made Mistral-class helicopter carriers originally built for Russia.

"Russia will be, if you want, a sub-contractor, who will supply the missing equipment without which the Mistral warships are just a tin can. And of course, all the helicopters," Sergei Ivanov said.

He added that the price of potential contracts would amount to over $1 billion.

Egypt emerged as France's replacement customer for the Mistrals in September 2015, after Paris and Moscow formally terminated a 2011 deal on the construction and delivery of the two ships. In November 2014, France suspended the contract, claiming Moscow's alleged participation in the Ukrainian conflict.

Russia and France are expected to sign the final documents on the removal of radio-electronic systems from the Mistral-class helicopter carriers in early November.

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/release/168005/russia-says-will-equip-egyptian-mistrals.html

Harald

Egypt is acquiring an E-2C Hawkeye early warning and control aircraft, with the Navy's Naval Air Systems Command planning to award a contract  to Northrop Grumman to refurbish and supply an ex-US Navy Hawkeye to the country through a Foreign Military Sales contract. Egypt purchased an initial batch of five E-2Cs in the 1980s, followed by another aircraft, with a request for two more in October 2007 failing to see another sale. The presolicitation announcement detailing the plan to award a contract for the additional Hawkeye also lays out plans for upgrade work to an E-2C delivered to Egypt in December 2010.

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/

Sparkplug

DCNS Will Deliver Two Mistral-Class Projection and Command Ships (BPCs) to the Egyptian Navy

DCNS | October 12, 2015

PARIS --- On 10 October, DCNS signed a contract with the Ministry of Defence of the Arab Republic of Egypt for the supply of two MISTRAL-class projection and command ships (BPCs). After the delivery of a FREMM frigate and the construction of four GOWIND 2500 corvettes, currently on-going, this agreement strengthens the strategic relations with the Egyptian Navy, initiated by the Group in 2014. By 2020, the Egyptian Navy will deploy a fleet of at least seven combat ships designed and built by DCNS.

Hervé Guillou, Chairman and CEO of DCNS announced that: "After the contracts for the supply of four GOWIND corvettes and a FREMM frigate, we are proud that the Egyptian Navy continues to place its trust in us today by signing a contract for the delivery of two MISTRAL-class BPCs. With 7 combat ships already ordered to date and a latest-generation frigate already in operation in the Egyptian Navy, DCNS is thus participating in the modernization of the defence infrastructure of this strategic French ally."

The two projection and command ships (BPCs) ordered by the Egyptian Navy from DCNS will join their home port in the summer of 2016, after the training of the future crews. This training will be given mainly over the 1st half of 2016 in Saint-Nazaire.

With regard to associated BPC support ships, DCNS will supply in particular four new-generation landing crafts (CTM NG), designed by the Group as an integrated system to an amphibious force organized around MISTRAL ships, and two fast landing crafts (EDAR), designed and built by CNIM.

A long-term partnership with the Egyptian Navy

Considering that the first of the four future GOWIND corvettes for the Egyptian Navy is already being built, that the other three will be assembled in Egypt in Alexandria and that the FREMM Tahya Misr frigate was already delivered to the Egyptian Navy on 23 June 2015, the signature of this new contract further strengthens the strategic partnership developed between DCNS and the Egyptian Navy.

By 2020, the Group will have supplied at least seven ships to Egypt contributing to the modernization of its defence mechanisms.

This strong partnership between the Arab Republic of Egypt and the French Republic is reinforced by DCNS' commitment to accompany the Egyptian Navy in the long term, especially with the unfailing support of dedicated service teams for the maintenance of main warships. The Group also states its presence in a wider project of industrial cooperation with the Egyptian party in the field of construction and maintenance of major program units.

Once again, due to this historical agreement, DCNS expects to build a partnership with the Egyptian Navy but also with Egyptian shipyards with which the Group intends to build a long-term cooperation. That is how DCNS has decided to invest in the Egyptian Industry to mutually develop the essential knowledge and means to support a leading Navy.

Technical characteristics of the MISTRAL-class BPCs

With a length of 199 meters, a displacement of 23,000 tonnes and a speed in excess of 18 knots, the MISTRAL-class BPC is defined by its large carrying capacity.

The MISTRAL-class BPC is designed for force-projection, peacekeeping and humanitarian-support operations, and is equipped with a particularly modular command and control centre, featuring efficient communication systems that can be adapted to all shipboard headquarter configurations.

It also has an onboard hospital, and can carry out large-scale humanitarian missions. Its highly capable communication system makes it the ideal command ship within a naval force.


The Group designs, builds and maintains submarines and surface ships. The Group also proposes services for naval shipyards and bases. The Group reports revenues of €3.1 billion and has a workforce of 13,130 employees (2014 data).

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/167738/egypt-signs-contract-for-two-mistral-lhds.html
A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

dudge

Citaat van: jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter) op 09/10/2015 | 15:58 uur
Zeker doen ze nog goede zaken maar je ziet ook dat die regio de (politieke) risico's meer wil spreiden.


In hoeverre spreid je de risisco's door voor Europees te gaan? Europa en de VS zitten doorgaans redelijk op 1 lijn, de spreiding is dus minimaal.

Citaat van: jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter) op 09/10/2015 | 15:58 uur
Of China kosteneffectieve oplossingen levert zal m.i. nog moeten blijken.

Een goede indicatie van de prijzen hebben we natuurlijk, omdat de deals doorgaans met schimmige regimes plaatsvinden, maar dat zijn vaak ook armetierige regime's, en voor de prijs waarvoor China levert maakt de kwaliteit eigenlijk niet meer uit. Het zijn doorgaans ook landen, in Afrika maar ook in het Midden-Oosten, waar het terugkomen van de vlieger/tanker/sailor wat minder belangrijk is dan bij ons.

Ik denk dat het een veilige aanname is. Niet voor alles, maar een zeker een aantal producten uit China zal gewoon zijn werk doen.

jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter)

Citaat van: Thomasen op 09/10/2015 | 15:55 uur
Ze doen nog steeds goede zaken. Maar lijken wel marktaandeel te verliezen. En hoewel dat gedeeltelijk te verwachten was, is het opvallend dat juist Europe lijkt te profiteren, en niet bijvoorbeeld Rusland, dat ook altijd een stevige footprint heeft gehad, of China, dat simpelweg kosteneffectieve oplossingen levert.

Zeker doen ze nog goede zaken maar je ziet ook dat die regio de (politieke) risico's meer wil spreiden.

Of China kosteneffectieve oplossingen levert zal m.i. nog moeten blijken.

Huzaar1

Citaat van: Thomasen op 09/10/2015 | 15:55 uur
Ze doen nog steeds goede zaken. Maar lijken wel marktaandeel te verliezen. En hoewel dat gedeeltelijk te verwachten was, is het opvallend dat juist Europe lijkt te profiteren, en niet bijvoorbeeld Rusland, dat ook altijd een stevige footprint heeft gehad, of China, dat simpelweg kosteneffectieve oplossingen levert.

Lui willen kwaliteit en aangezien er geld beschikbaar is door derden hoeft minder op de centjes te worden gelet.
Als je mag winkelen met iemand amders zijn portomonnee..dan ga je niet naar rusland. Wellicht voor wat ze niet in de EU kunnen krijgen.
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion" US secmindef - Jed Babbin"

dudge

Citaat van: jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter) op 09/10/2015 | 14:35 uur
De Amerikanen hebben het verbruid in de regio.

Ze doen nog steeds goede zaken. Maar lijken wel marktaandeel te verliezen. En hoewel dat gedeeltelijk te verwachten was, is het opvallend dat juist Europe lijkt te profiteren, en niet bijvoorbeeld Rusland, dat ook altijd een stevige footprint heeft gehad, of China, dat simpelweg kosteneffectieve oplossingen levert.