Verlenging levensduur Patriot

[Harald]

US Army strategy to acquire Patriot radar replacement expected soon 

WASHINGTON — The Army is nearing completion of an acquisition strategy to achieve a 360-degree threat detection capability for its future Integrated Air-and-Missile Defense system, according to the deputy program executive officer for Army Missiles and Space.

The service has long wrestled with when and how it will replace its current air-and-missile defense system — Raytheon's Patriot — first fielded in 1982. And, at one point, planned to procure the Lockheed Martin-made Medium Extended Air Defense System as the chosen replacement. But the Army canceled its plans to acquire the system.

The Army's request for information released in July 2016 revealed it was still trying to figure out a way forward, at least when it comes to the radar that would detect incoming threats as part of the future integrated system. The RFI indicates the Army has yet to decide whether it would procure a new radar or upgrade the current Patriot radar.

That decision is around the corner, Col. Rob Rasch told Defense News at an Association of the United States Army event on missile defense in Arlington, Virginia, on Tuesday. Rasch said the Army has analyzed information provided by industry.

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While the Pentagon is currently operating under fiscal 2016 budget levels due to a continuing resolution that won't lift until April 28 at the earliest, the Army's lower-tier Air and Missile Defense program office team is working aggressively to be ready to execute a new start to move forward on a modernized radar program — whether new or upgraded — in fiscal 2017 when the dollars become available, Rasch said.

http://www.defensenews.com/a10%20retirement%202021

[Lex]

Kamerbrief Verlenging levensduur Patriot

BD-brief over de realisatie van het project 'Verlenging levensduur Patriot'

Mindef, 20 oktober 2016

[Sparkplug]

The Netherlands Invests In the Future of Its Patriot Integrated Air and Missile Defense System

(Source: Raytheon Co.; issued Oct 6, 2016)

THE HAGUE, Netherlands --- The Royal Netherlands Defence Materiel Organisation awarded Raytheon a contract to upgrade its Patriot Integrated Air and Missile Defense system with the Modern Man Station user interface, a move to significantly boost the nation's missile defense capability.

The combat-proven Patriot is the most advanced air and missile defense system in the world. It saves lives and protects critical infrastructure by defending against advanced threats such as aircraft, tactical ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and drones. Thirteen nations, including the U.S., The Netherlands and three other NATO members, depend on Patriot as the foundation for their defense.

"The Netherlands will continuously modernize Patriot as they intend to keep it in their inventory until at least 2040," said Ralph Acaba, Raytheon vice president of Integrated Air and Missile Defense. "The Modern Man Station is an important step in the Royal Netherlands Army's plan to upgrade their entire Patriot inventory to the most advanced capability currently available."

At the end of 2015, The Netherlands announced its decision to continue investing in Patriot. In 2014, two Patriot batteries from The Netherlands concluded a two-year deployment to Turkey, where they helped defend that country from ballistic missiles.

"Patriot remains a pillar of NATO missile defense because it is the only fielded, combat-proven air and missile defense system capable of outpacing the evolving threat," said Joe DeAntona, Raytheon vice president of business development for Integrated Air and Missile Defense. "This upgrade will make it easier for The Netherlands to operate Patriot, and will provide them enhanced situational awareness."

The Modern Man Station, or MMS, is the latest operator-machine interface upgrade to Patriot command and control shelters. It provides state-of-the-art, full-color graphical user interface with LCD displays. It also has touch screens and soft keys for enhanced situational awareness, with best-in-class command and control decision support tools. MMS is used to identify and display airborne objects; track potential threats; and engage hostile targets, including aircraft, unmanned air vehicles, cruise missiles and tactical ballistic missiles.

The Modern Man Stations were procured via a direct commercial sales contract. Both the quantity of MMS and the total value of the contract are undisclosed.

Raytheon's Global Patriot Solutions is the most advanced portfolio of air and missile defense technologies in the world, providing comprehensive protection against a full range of advanced threats, including aircraft, tactical ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles. Patriot is continually upgraded and enhanced to leverage the latest technology. Thirteen nations depend on Patriot as the foundation for their defense.

Raytheon Company, with 2015 sales of $23 billion and 61,000 employees, is a technology and innovation leader specializing in defense, civil government and cybersecurity solutions. Raytheon is headquartered in Waltham, Massachusetts.

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/177705/netherlands-to-upgrade-patriot-missile-system.html

[ridivek]

Het Duitse DLR (grote broer van nlr) MoRaBa (Mobiele Raket Basis) gaat vanaf Andoya Space Center (ASC, Noorwegen) twee imp. Malemute (patriot PAC-2l geluidsracketten lanceren. De experimenten heten Maxi Dusty. De eerste lancering was als het goed is gisteren, de tweede is 11 juli.
DLR MoRaBa wil de imp. Malemute hiermee voor europees gebruik kwalificeren.
Wordt dit het lot van de Nederlandse PAC-2 missiles naast de Duitse?

Edit:
Vandaag om 11:48:18 is de eerste raket succesvol gelanceerd. Een hoogte van ongeveer 115km werd berijkt. De tweede wordt voor 11 juli gelanceerd.
De motor is geleverd door het Duitse DLR MoRaBa.
Een engelstalig artiekel met foto's is op de website van Andoya Space Center te vinden.

[ridivek]

Volgens mij heb ik het bij het verkeerde eind.
http://raytheon.mediaroom.com/2016-03-17-Patriot-one-ballistic-missile-zero
MEADS werkt alleen met PAC-3 (MSE).
Twee presentaties over Anti-balistic missiles:
anti ballistic missiles 1
anti ballistic missiles ii

Ik kwam deze video tegen van David's Sling PAAC-4

[ridivek]

Volgens mij zijn alle PAC-2 (GEM) missiles voor 1995 geproduceerd. Vooral de racket (Mk. 486-1) heeft een beperkte opslagtijd. Amerika gebruikt Mk. 481 raketten als in Improved Malemute sounding rockets en Patriot as Target raketten.
De Standard Missile 2 Medium Range (SM-2MR block IIIA RIM-66) heeft een racket (Mk. 104) die door Amerika als Lynx sounding rocket wordt gebruikt(klopte niet)

edit: Waarschijnlijk zullen PAC-3 MSE's de PAC-2's vervangen. 
SM info link

[StrataNL]

Weet iemand of bij de modernisering van de patriot's de PAC-2 (MIM-104D) missiles buiten gebruik worden gesteld. Volgens zij lopen deze allemaal tegen het einde van hun 20-30 jaar opslagtijd.
We kunnen ze als Malemute sounding rockets gebruiken. Of als doelen voor een Europees luchtverdedigingssysteem.
Dit zelfde geldt volgens mij ook voor SM-2 block-3A. (Lynx)

Geldt dat ook voor de missiles uit Duitsland? Buiten gebruik stellen zal wel niet, want dan houden we alleen PAC-3's over. Wat bedoel je met SM-2 (Lynx)?

[ridivek]

Weet iemand of bij de modernisering van de patriot's de PAC-2 (MIM-104D) missiles buiten gebruik worden gesteld. Volgens zij lopen deze allemaal tegen het einde van hun 20-30 jaar opslagtijd.
We kunnen ze als Malemute sounding rockets gebruiken. Of als doelen voor een Europees luchtverdedigingssysteem.
Dit zelfde geldt volgens mij ook voor SM-2 block-3A. (Lynx)

[ARM-WAP]

Filmpje over de Modern man stations hier: https://vimeo.com/100727802

Goede reclame voor "Belgische/Vlaamse wapensystemen..."

Dat is immers wat die Tree-huggers en geitenwollensokkendrgers van Groen!, SP.a, PS, Pvda etc zouden zeggen.
Beeldschermen van Barco...

[StrataNL]

Filmpje over de Modern man stations hier: https://vimeo.com/100727802

[Lex]

Beantwoording Kamervragen over de aanschaf Modern Man Stations

Antwoorden van minister Hennis-Plasschaert (Def) op de schriftelijke vragen van de vaste commissie voor Defensie over de aanschaf Modern Man Stations ten behoeve van het project 'Verlenging levensduur Patriot'.

Kamerbrief, 03-03-2016

[Harald]

Critical Missile Defense Decisions in NATO Europe Expected in 2016

WASHINGTON — As European countries scramble to buy new next-generation air and missile defense systems or upgrade existing systems, the battle for business between Raytheon and Lockheed is set to continue into 2016, even in countries where key decisions appear to have already been made.

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The Netherlands
While Lockheed was eyeing the Netherlands as a possible MEADS customer, a Dutch official said some discouraging things this fall during a parliament defense committee hearing.

Defense Minister Jeanine Hennis-Plasschaert said, according to translated testimony, that The Netherlands could afford to do nothing more to enhance its missile defense than upgrade its aging Patriot systems. The decision sounded like a blow to Lockheed Martin with aspirations to make MEADS the NATO system of choice.

Hennis-Plasschaert said the Patriot system is reaching the end of its lifespan and that upgrading the system was a better investment than replacing it with MEADS, which would be too costly, especially when considering upkeep of both systems until 2040.

According to an industry source, the Dutch are at the very preliminary stages of their budget process for the next fiscal year and the country has yet to review alternatives. So far, the Dutch are planning to spend a small amount on a life-extension program their Patriot batteries for upgrades such as a new touch screen.

Hennis-Plasschaert also argued the reason for upgrading Patriot was to align with Germany, which plans to keep its Patriot systems until at least 2025.

"The Dutch, like Germany have been leaders in AMD in Europe for years," Lockheed's Coyne said. "They have not yet made a long-term decision reference their AMD forces, only that they will spend a modest sum of money over the next few years to do basic life-extension repairs to their 30-year-old Patriots. Our goal is to show them a path to MEADS that is both affordable and maintains their leadership role and strong connection to Germany."

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Voor gehele artikel zie LINK, met meer info over landen als Duitsland, Polen, Turkije en Italie
http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/international/europe/2015/12/29/critical-decisions-in-european-missile-defense-expected-in-2016/77880760/

[Harald]

Latest Patriot takes out two ballistic missiles during first flight test

WHITE SANDS MISSILE RANGE, N.M., Nov. 19, 2015 /PRNewswire/ -- The U.S. Army successfully completed the first in a series of flight tests for the latest upgrades to the Raytheon Company (NYSE: RTN)-made Patriot Integrated Air and Missile Defense system.

The upgrades, collectively known as Post-Deployment Build 8 (PDB-8), improve Patriot's ability to destroy all categories of threats, differentiate between friendly and enemy aircraft, and make Patriot easier for soldiers to operate.  PDB-8 is slated for fielding in the near future. Much of PDB-8's development was funded by the 13-nation Patriot partnership, which will have the opportunity to incorporate PDB-8 into their Patriot inventory after U.S. Army testing and Materiel Release.

"Because countries share in the investment of upgrades, Patriot is able to stay ahead of the continually evolving and improving threats we are seeing in Eastern Europe, the Middle East and Asia," said Ralph Acaba, Raytheon vice president of Integrated Air and Missile Defense. "Like all other Patriot upgrades, PDB-8 can be retro-fitted into Patriot fire units around the world, and builds on the lessons learned from Patriot's more than 190 combat employments, 700 flight tests and 2,500-plus ground tests."

During the flight test, operators used a PDB-8 configured Patriot battery to detect and track a ballistic missile target. The operators then successfully engaged the target with two different kinds of missiles -- a PAC-3 and a GEM-T.  A short while later, operators repeated the process, this time successfully engaging a second ballistic missile target with two GEM-T missiles.

PDB-8 is currently undergoing U.S. government testing and evaluation. Additional flight- and ground- testing against a variety of targets will be conducted before PDB-8 is phased into the Patriot inventory.

PDB-8 also represents the first U.S. Army fielding of two new major pieces of hardware:
•Modern Man Station (MMS), a user interface with color LCD displays, touch screens and soft keys.
•Radar Digital Processor (RDP), a ruggedized commercial off-the-shelf processor. RDP increase Patriot's already high reliability by 40 percent.  RDP also costs less to maintain and operate because it has fewer parts.  And, RDP enables future capabilities through software upgrades.

Although a number of Patriot partner nations have already fielded MMS and RDP, PDB-8 takes full advantages of the hardware upgrades. As a result, the U.S. Army and other PDB-8 users will have the following features and benefits in their Patriot systems:
•Enhanced capability against a variety of threats.
•An improved Identification Friend or Foe capability
•Improved radar search capability.
•Improved target detection and identification
•A redesigned Fire Solution Computer, which enables Patriot to take advantage of the PAC-3 MSE missile capabilities.
•An Enhanced Weapons Control Computer which provides up to 50 percent additional processing power for software enhancements to address evolving threats.

http://raytheon.mediaroom.com/2015-11-19-Latest-Patriot-takes-out-two-ballistic-missiles-during-first-flight-test

[Mourning]

Ik stel ook niet voor om een van de twee de deur uit te doen, alleen dat we m.i. op dit moment niet persee onze capaciteit naar meer dan 4 patriots hoeven uit te breiden. Al is het in vergelijking met het Israelische netwerk natuurlijk erg licht, het is niet de grootste zwakte.

Eens! Al zou het m.i. wel verstandig zijn om deze 4 systemen allen volledig operationeel te maken met voldoende bemanning e.d.. Het is min of meer een van de weinige ''sterktes'' in onze uitgemergelde lilliputter krijgsmacht, behandel dat dan ook als zodanig.

[dudge]

NASAMS is formeel de vervanger van de 40L70/Flycatcher, niet van de HAWK. De taken van de HAWK zijn overgenomen door Patriot. Binnen de huidige DGLC organisatie zal dit verschil wellicht kleiner zijn en kan ik me voorstellen dat er ook gewoon oude HAWK taken bij NASAMS liggen. Gap filler voor Patriot bijv. (A.J. correct me if i'm wrong)

T.o.v. de 40L70 zal NASAMS ongetwijfeld een hele verbetering zijn, maar qua bereik en ceiling komt het niet in de buurt van HAWK. De AMRAAM is simpelweg niet heel erg geschikt om als SAM ingezet te worden. De AMRAAM moet nu uit stilstand vanaf grondniveau de zwaartekracht overwinnen en zich een weg banen door dikke lucht. Een enorm verschil met A/A gebruik met een start snelheid van 1000km/u en 8km hoogte.

M.i. heeft NASAMS echt wel potentie, mooie hardware, sensoren en interessante netwerk mogelijkheden. 

Ok. vwb de beperking van de AMRAAM, ik kan me voorstellen dat dit een goedkope capability is omdat we er al een aantal hebben, zeker als die niet meegaan naar de F35. Later misschien aan te vullen met IRIS of ESSM oid.

Ik bedoelde echter meer, beide zijn toch in staat een gebied te beschermen tegen vliegtuigen, helicopters en kruisraketten, alleen is het gebied waarin de Patriot dat doet vele malen groter en kan daarbij ook nog optreden tegen BM's. De Amerikanen beschermen bijvoorbeeld Washington met hun NASAMS. Ik weet niet in hoeverre altitude een probleem is, maar kan me voorstellen dat het high altitude werk (het U2 domein) aan een Patriot moet worden overgelaten. Het is echter niet zo dat we bij bescherming ten alle tijde afhankelijk zijn van Patriots. In Turkije bijvoorbeeld wel, maar er zijn ook operaties denkbaar waarbij we uit de voeten kunnen met NASAMS. Of beide nodighebben in een geintegreerd netwerk.

Ik stel ook niet voor om een van de twee de deur uit te doen, alleen dat we m.i. op dit moment niet persee onze capaciteit naar meer dan 4 patriots hoeven uit te breiden. Al is het in vergelijking met het Israelische netwerk natuurlijk erg licht, het is niet de grootste zwakte.