Internationale fighter ontwikkelingen

Gestart door Lex, 19/12/2015 | 16:32 uur

Ace1

Citaat van: jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter) op 12/12/2016 | 16:15 uur
Die soep zal niet zo heet gegeten worden wel is de C variant de meest kwetsbare, als er al iets geannuleerd wordt dan moet je het in die hoek zoeken denk ik, immers de USN is blij met haar F18E/F/G en kan het zich krap veroorloven om te wachten op een volgende generatie.

Als alternatief F16 Block 60-62 met een AESA radar.

http://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/racr/

http://www.northropgrumman.com/Capabilities/SABR/Documents/sabr_datasheet.pdf




jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter)


jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter)

Citaat van: Harald op 12/12/2016 | 15:31 uur
Cancel Plans to Purchase Additional F-35 Joint Strike Fighters and Instead Purchase F-16s and F/A-18s ( CBO ; order stop voor F-35, ipv F-35 koop laatste versie F-16, F18 ... )


Die soep zal niet zo heet gegeten worden wel is de C variant de meest kwetsbare, als er al iets geannuleerd wordt dan moet je het in die hoek zoeken denk ik, immers de USN is blij met haar F18E/F/G en kan het zich krap veroorloven om te wachten op een volgende generatie.

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The F-35 program and cost is out of control. Billions of dollars can and will be saved on military (and other) purchases after January 20th.

bron: Twitter 2:26 PM - 12 Dec 2016

Harald

Cancel Plans to Purchase Additional F-35 Joint Strike Fighters and Instead Purchase F-16s and F/A-18s ( CBO ; order stop voor F-35, ipv F-35 koop laatste versie F-16, F18 ... )

(Source: Congressional Budget Office; issued Dec 08, 2016)

The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) program is the military's largest aircraft development program. The F-35 is a stealthy aircraft—one that is difficult for adversaries to detect by radar and other air defense sensors. The objective of the program is to produce three versions of that aircraft: the conventional takeoff F-35A for the Air Force, the short takeoff and vertical landing (STOVL) F-35B for the Marine Corps, and the carrier-based F-35C for the Navy.

Through 2016, 285 F-35s had been purchased for the U.S. military: 178 F-35As, 71 F-35Bs, and 36 F‑35Cs.

Current plans call for purchasing 2,158 more F‑35s through 2038. The Department of Defense (DoD) has estimated that the remaining cost of those purchases, including the cost to complete development, will amount to $265 billion (in nominal dollars). The Marine Corps and the Air Force declared their versions of the F-35 operational in 2015 and 2016, respectively. The Navy expects to declare its version operational by 2019.

Under this option, DoD would halt further production of the F-35 and instead purchase the most advanced versions of older, non-stealthy fighter aircraft that are still in production: the F-16 Fighting Falcon for the Air Force and the F/A-18 Super Hornet for the Navy and Marine Corps.

The services would operate the F-35s that have already been purchased. By the Congressional Budget Office's estimates, the option would reduce the need for discretionary budget authority by $29 billion from 2018 through 2026 if the F-16s and F/A-18s were purchased on the same schedule as that currently in place for the F-35s. Outlays would decrease by $23 billion over that period.

Additional savings would accrue from 2027 through 2038 if F-16s and F/A-18s were purchased instead of the F-35s that are scheduled to be purchased in those later years. However, the Navy and Air Force are both planning to develop entirely new aircraft with fighter-like capabilities to be fielded in the 2030s and might choose to replace some planned F-35s with those aircraft instead.

An advantage of this option is that it would reduce the cost of replacing DoD's older fighter aircraft while still providing new F-16s and F/A-18s with improved capabilities—including modern radar, precision weapons, and digital communications—that would be able to defeat most of the threats that the United States is likely to face in the coming years.

The F-35s that have already been purchased would augment the stealthy B-2 bombers and F-22 fighters that are currently in the force, improving the services' ability to operate against adversaries equipped with advanced air defense systems. The military has successfully operated a mix of stealthy and non-stealthy aircraft since the advent of the F-117 stealth fighter in the 1980s.

A disadvantage of this option is that a force consisting of a mix of stealthy and non-stealthy aircraft would be less flexible against advanced enemy air defense systems. An inability to neutralize such defenses in the early stages of a conflict might preclude the use of F-16s and F/A-18s, effectively reducing the number of fighters that the United States would have at its disposal.

Another disadvantage is that the services would have to continue to operate more types of aircraft instead of concentrating on a smaller number of types. For example, F-16s would remain in the Air Force's inventory longer than currently planned, and the Marine Corps might need to field new F/A-18s to augment its F-35Bs.

Depending on how expensive it was to operate the F-35, the added costs of maintaining mixed fleets of fighters for a longer period could offset some of the savings under this option.

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/179479/cbo%3A-replacing-f_35-with-legacy-fighters-would-save-%2429bn.html

Zander

Citaat van: jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter) op 12/12/2016 | 09:05 uur
Met slechts 8 toestellen en een zeer karig budget lijkt mij de keuze zich uiteindelijk te beperken tot 2
één pitters.

Wij hebben toch nog wat F16's....
Middelen om ze in te zetten hebben we toch niet.
People are sheep

jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter)

Citaat van: Harald op 12/12/2016 | 09:00 uur
Second-hand Italian Eurofighters enter the fray in Bulgaria's fighter contest


Met slechts 8 toestellen en een zeer karig budget lijkt mij de keuze zich uiteindelijk te beperken tot 2
één pitters.

Harald

Second-hand Italian Eurofighters enter the fray in Bulgaria's fighter contest

Bulgaria's fighter competition to replace its MiG-29 has been expanded to include second-hand Eurofighters from Italy.

Besides Italy, Portugal, Sweden and United States were approached by Bulgaria for proposals to sell fighter aircraft to the Eastern European nation.

http://alert5.com/2016/12/11/second-hand-italian-eurofighters-enter-the-fray-in-bulgarias-fighter-contest/#more-59505

StrataNL

Citaat van: Harald op 07/12/2016 | 14:41 uur
Navair Sees F-35 Requiring Up to 50 Maintenance Hours per Flight Hour

Four years into their operational career, F-35 fighters are expected to require between 41.75 and 50.1 maintenance man-hours (MMH) per flight hours, or about three times as many as most fighter aircraft currently operated by Western air forces.

This extremely high MMH to flight hour ratio is extrapolated from a Dec. 01 solicitation filed by the US Naval Air Systems Command, and which states that the world-wide in-service fleet of F-35s will require 17 million man-hours of maintenance and sustainment in FY 2018 and FY 2019.

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voor het gehele artikel en tabellen, zie onderstaande LINK

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/feature/5/179243/navair-projects-f_35-to-need-50-maintenance-hours-per-flight-hour.html

Surprise surprise...#not  >:(
-Strata-
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dudge

Ah top, om de inzetbaarheid gelijk te houden straks dus met 18.000 man op een carrier. Maakt niet uit, ruimte zat. Zonde van die paar 100 mam die ze met de Ford class van boord wilden trappen.

Harald

Navair Sees F-35 Requiring Up to 50 Maintenance Hours per Flight Hour

Four years into their operational career, F-35 fighters are expected to require between 41.75 and 50.1 maintenance man-hours (MMH) per flight hours, or about three times as many as most fighter aircraft currently operated by Western air forces.

This extremely high MMH to flight hour ratio is extrapolated from a Dec. 01 solicitation filed by the US Naval Air Systems Command, and which states that the world-wide in-service fleet of F-35s will require 17 million man-hours of maintenance and sustainment in FY 2018 and FY 2019.

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voor het gehele artikel en tabellen, zie onderstaande LINK

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/feature/5/179243/navair-projects-f_35-to-need-50-maintenance-hours-per-flight-hour.html

Lex

#1122
Heden zijn Adir 901 & 902 geland op Lajes.
Het zijn 2x LM F35I, de Israelische variant van de F35A.
De bron: http://militaryaviationreview.com/first-two-israeli-f-35as-arrive-at-lajes

Sparkplug

Israel may acquire more F-15Is: sources

BY: Arie Egozi | Tel Aviv | 05 December, 2016

Israel is contemplating the acquisition of additional Boeing F-15Is to support its future combat requirements.

Although the country's air force investment is currently focused on the acquisition of 50 Lockheed Martin F-35s, Tel Aviv believes it needs more than one strike aircraft in its inventory.

During briefings ahead of the 12 December arrival of Israel's first F-35s, air force officials indicated that they were considering buying more of the legacy Boeing fighters.

According to sources familiar with the matter, although the F-35's stealth capabilities will be vital in the initial phase of a conflict, the air force will subsequently need an aircraft with a larger weapons load to operate alongside the Joint Strike Fighter.

F-15 production is likely to continue into the 2020s if a provisional 72-aircraft deal with Qatar can be concluded.

If Tel Aviv decides to purchase additional Strike Eagles, funding would be drawn from a recently approved military aid package from the USA, which is worth $38 billion over 10 years from 2019.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/israel-may-acquire-more-f-15is-sources-432105/
A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

dudge

Citaat van: ARM-WAP op 05/12/2016 | 10:01 uur
De Rafale M zie ik het ook niet worden...
En gezien de tijdsdruk zal een genavaliseerde Gripen het ook niet halen...
Volgens mij wordt het Russische meuk: hebben ze nu al... dus waarom alweer iets anders kopen.

Dit terzijde vind ik die LCA-Tejas zeer veel weg hebben van Mirages/Jaguars.

De MiG heeft wel veruit de beste papieren op zak denk ik ja. Al zou Rafale natuurlijk een prima keuze zijn, dus niet volledig uitgesloten. Een Gripen zie ik er ook niet van komen, gezien de retoriek over timings.

ARM-WAP

Citaat van: Harald op 05/12/2016 | 09:55 uur
Navy rules out deploying 'overweight' Tejas on aircraft carriers 
(kansen voor Gripen E-Naval ??... of de F-18E/F, Rafale M, ... of Russisch ? )
(Rafale M ... gezien de problemen bij de Rafale luchtmacht deal, lijk me deze optie niet aannemelijk)
De Rafale M zie ik het ook niet worden...
En gezien de tijdsdruk zal een genavaliseerde Gripen het ook niet halen...
Volgens mij wordt het Russische meuk: hebben ze nu al... dus waarom alweer iets anders kopen.

Dit terzijde vind ik die LCA-Tejas zeer veel weg hebben van Mirages/Jaguars.