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Gestart door Harald, 01/03/2017 | 13:48 uur

Harald

Raider-X: Sikorsky's Supersized S-97 For Army Scout   (.. Sikorsky`s tegenreactie naar Bell's 360 Invictus  ... kijkend naar de looks  :P dan wint de Bell 360 Invictus.. (voor mij) )



Sikorsky says their Future Attack Reconnaissance Aircraft design will fly faster, with bigger weapons, than archrival Bell's. Bell says theirs will be cheaper and more reliable.

This morning, just in time for the AUSA 2019 conference,  Sikorsky finally unveiled their design for the Army's Future Attack Reconnaissance Aircraft. The Raider-X will be a larger and more advanced version of Sikorsky's current S-97 Raider, which has been flying since 2015. Both aircraft use Sikorsky's cutting-edge – but not combat-tested – compound helicopter technology to achieve speed and range that tried-and-true conventional helicopters can't match.

So how does Raider-X, with its two coaxial, counter-rotating rotors on top and pusher propeller in back, compare to its much more traditionally designed rival, the Bell 360 Invictus, which has a single main rotor and small tail rotor for stability? In a Friday interview Friday with me and Aviation Week's Graham Warwick, one sign of Sikorsky's confidence was how eagerly its execs invited that comparison, though they spoke in generic terms about single-main-rotor helicopters rather than bashing Bell by name.

(Three other contenders received awards to propose FARA designs – Boeing, Karem, and an AVX/L3 Harris team – but we haven't covered them as extensively. That's in part because none of them has released nearly as much information. It's in part because Sikorsky and Bell clearly see each other as the main competition, being the only two companies that won Joint Multi-Role Demonstrator funding to build cutting-edge prototype aircraft).

The Need For Speed On Future Battlefields

To traverse sprawling future multi-domain battlefields and dash past enemy anti-aircraft defenses, the Army wants FARA to go fast. Even at its cruise speed – the fastest speed an aircraft can sustain long-term without damaging the engine – FARA needs to go at least 180 knots (207 mph), 16 percent faster than the AH-64 Apache gunship. The Army also wants FARA to be able to dash in emergencies at 205 knots, though that's not mandatory.

Sikorsky's engineering studies showed that, "[with] the 180 knot threshold requirement for FARA, you could get there with a single main rotor, but you were basically topped out," said Tim Malia, Sikorsky's director for Future Vertical Light – Light. That's because conventional helicopters suffer something called retreating blade stall at high speeds, which leads to exponentially increasing drag that takes exponentially more power to overcome, until it becomes physically impossible to accelerate further. (In brief, the diminishing returns diminish all the way to zero). Sikorsky's engineering studies showed that, to get a single-main-rotor helicopter to reach the speeds the Army wants, you need to squeeze every drop of power from the engine and streamline the airframe ruthlessly to reduce drag.

Indeed, when Bell briefed reporters about their FARA design two weeks ago, they detailed how they'd applied all their engineering expertise to reducing drag: from the needle nose, to the narrow tandem cockpit with one co-pilot sitting in front of the other, to the deliberately off-center tail rotor. Bell also added small wings – a feature not found on conventional helicopters — to provide more lift at higher speeds, allowing the main rotor to spend less energy providing lift and more on thrust. Even so, to get enough thrust, Bell felt compelled to include a "supplemental power unit" to boost the main engine (a GE T901 Improved Turbine Engine).

All that effort is to get the Bell 360 to sustain 180 knots. What about the 205 knots bursts of speed that the Army wants? That's not a mandatory requirement, Bell exec Keith Flail said over and over again.

By contrast, Sikorsky is confident their Raider-X can beat 205 knots – using the same GE T901 engine as the Bell 360, but with no supplemental power system. Raider doesn't need wings, either. The ultra-rigid rotors provide all the lift required at high speeds, relying on the pusher propeller to provide thrust. And, while streamlined, Raider-X's fuselage is actually fairly wide: The co-pilots are seated side-by-side – making it easier for them to see each others' displays and point things out to each other – with a cabin behind them large enough for passengers or a capacious weapons bay.

"We weren't trying to get every last bit of drag out to hit a speed requirement. We didn't need to," Malia said. "We are not doing anything cute or tricky by trying to add additional engines. We are using the power that's available from the T901, and we've got a really solid design built around it."

Sikorsky's smaller and less powerful S-97, which has the same side-by-side cockpit design, has already done 207 knots in tests, beating the Army's dash-speed requirement. The grandfather of the Sikorsky compound-helicopter family, the Collier Trophy-winning X2 tech demonstrator, managed 250. Considering this history, and reading between the lines of what Malia and other execs have said, it seems Sikorsky is actually deemphasizing speed with each new generation of compound helicopter so they can focus on optimizing other features.

Agility, Reliability, Cost, and History

It's those other features besides speed where Bell says it has the advantage: low-speed agility, mechanical reliability and ease of maintenance, and low cost.

Sikorsky counters they've put the S-97 through extensive agility testing, meeting Army standards. They say their expertise in building digital fly-by-wire controls is more than equal to Bell's. And they say their ultra-rigid rotor blades are more responsive in tight maneuvers than the relatively wobbly rotors that conventional helicopters require.

What's more, because the rigid rotors don't need to flex as much as traditional ones, the rotor hub on which they're mounted requires far fewer moving parts – all told, half as many on the Raider-X as on the UH-60 Black Hawk — which should reduce breakdowns and maintenance.

What about Raider-X's pusher propeller, a complex piece of machinery that compound helicopters have, but conventional ones don't? Well, that replaces the traditional tail rotor and its drive shaft, which are also mechanically complex. The difference, Sikorsky says, is that a single-main-rotor helicopter whose tail rotor breaks down – or is destroyed in combat – needs to make an emergency landing immediately or crash. A compound helicopter whose pusher propeller breaks or is destroyed won't be able to reach its top speeds, but it's still capable of flying home.

All that said, Bell does have a point. Single-main-rotor helicopters like their Bell 360 have been flying by the tens of thousands since the first workable helicopter – designed and piloted, ironically in this context, by Igor Sikorsky – first took off in 1939. Dual-main-rotor designs like the Boeing CH-47 Chinook – which first saw service in Vietnam — have, likewise, been flying in large numbers for decades.

By contrast, compound helicopters, which combine dual main rotors with new ultra-rigid blades and a pusher propeller, are a much newer technology – and Sikorsky has only built four of them.
◾The pioneering X2, first flown in 2008 and now retired to the Smithsonian;
◾A pair of S-97 Raiders, one of which was totaled after a software glitch caused its two sets of rotors – which are set very close together to reduce drag – to clip each other during taxiing; and
◾The SB>1 Defiant, a transport variant and potential competitor for the Army's Future Long-Range Assault Aircraft, which is three times the Raider's size and whose first flight was delayed for months by, among other things, problems building ultra-rigid blades that were big enough.

Now, the Raider-X shouldn't have the same problems of scale: At 14,000 pounds, it's only 27 percent bigger than the 11,000-pound S-97, whereas the 30,000-lb Defiant is almost three times as large. But it's still a new technology, and – assuming the Army likes the Raider-X design well enough to pay Sikorsky to build a prototype – it will be only the fifth compound helicopter Sikorsky has ever made.

To Sikorsky, the newness of the technology is a selling point. Whereas traditional single-main-rotor technology has reached the limits of its performance, Sikorsky argues, compound helicopters have decades of growth ahead. When GE next upgrades its T901 engine, for example, Raider-X could easily translate more power into more speed and payload, Malia argued, while a single-main-rotor helicopter like the Bell 360 has already reached the point of diminishing returns where increases in power probably won't translate into greater speed.

For Raider-X, he said, "the technology itself is at the beginning of its growth curve."

But new technology comes with greater risk of schedule slips and cost overruns. Today's Army is willing to abruptly disqualify competitors for a modest delay – as it proved on the Optionally Manned Fighting Vehicle program – and it's increasingly anxious about cost. One of the requirements for the Future Attack Reconnaissance Aircraft, alongside speed, is an average cost per aircraft equal to the Apache, about $30 million.

Can Sikorsky compete under that cap?

"We have done a complete affordability analysis," Malia said. "We're extraordinarily confident we will come in under the Army's cost goal."

https://breakingdefense.com/2019/10/raider-x-sikorsky-supersizes-s-97-for-army-scout/?_ga=2.132875022.1047828841.1571053157-855280167.1506406488

Sparkplug

A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

Harald



Bell 360 Invictus Attack / Reconnaissance helicopter.

Note four Hellfire / Brimstone missiles carried internally and eight externally. The chin-mounted weapon is a 20 mm cannon.



https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30136/no-bells-invictus-armed-scout-helicopter-isnt-stealth-but-it-aims-to-be-fast-and-cheap


Sparkplug

China's Z-20 tactical helicopter uses fly-by-wire system

https://www.janes.com/article/91788/china-s-z-20-tactical-helicopter-uses-fly-by-wire-system


The Z-20 is the first Chinese-produced helicopter to use fly-by-wire flight controls, according to Chinese state media. Source: Via haohanfw.com
A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

Sparkplug

French MoD further details future H160 helicopter set-up at BAN Lanvéoc-Poulmic

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2019/10/french-mod-further-details-future-h160-helicopter-set-up-at-ban-lanveoc-poulmic/


The future HIL Guépard will replace the Alouette III, Dauphin and Panther of the French Navy (Credit: Airbus Helicopters)
A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

Ace1

Citaat van: Mourning op 02/10/2019 | 15:48 uur
Ja, natuurlijk want het was een prototype uit de jaren '90, maar de gelijkenis is qua uiterlijk m.i. echt opvallend. Niemand maakt mij wijs dat de Invictus niet voor een groot deel een doorontwikkeling is van het Comanche ontwerp naar onze tijd. Wat dat betreft is de taakstelling van de twee ook vrijwel gelijk.

Mee eens.

Sparkplug

Citaat van: Harald op 02/10/2019 | 16:01 uur
Ik denk dat dit voor de USMC, United States Marine Corps, eventueel wel een opvolger is voor hun AH-1Z Vipers.
Maar idd het is geen AH-64 Apache vervanger.

Als de USMC dit type van Bell zou kiezen, dan zullen zij zeer waarschijnlijk vragen om twee motoren. Iets dat zij al sinds de AH-1J SeaCobra en UH-1N Twin Huey van begin jaren 70 hebben.
A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

Harald

Citaat van: Sparkplug op 02/10/2019 | 13:55 uur
Hangt ervan af of de KLu meegaat in het FARA ontwerp. Het is toch behoorlijk op Reconnaissance gericht (ook vervanger van OH-58D Kiowa), heeft maar 1 motor en kaliber 20 mm i.p.v. 30 mm.

https://www.defensenews.com/land/2019/10/02/bell-unshrouds-invictus-its-answer-for-the-us-armys-future-attack-recon-aircraft/

Ik denk dat dit voor de USMC, United States Marine Corps, eventueel wel een opvolger is voor hun AH-1Z Vipers.
Maar idd het is geen AH-64 Apache vervanger.

https://www.bellflight.com/products/bell-360


Sparkplug

Citaat van: Mourning op 02/10/2019 | 15:48 uur
Ja, natuurlijk want het was een prototype uit de jaren '90, maar de gelijkenis is qua uiterlijk m.i. echt opvallend. Niemand maakt mij wijs dat de Invictus niet voor een groot deel een doorontwikkeling is van het Comanche ontwerp naar onze tijd. Wat dat betreft is de taakstelling van de twee ook vrijwel gelijk.

Misschien zijn een aantal ontwerpers van Boeing en/of Sikorsky overgestapt naar Bell.
A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

Mourning

Citaat van: Sparkplug op 02/10/2019 | 15:07 uur
Vergeleken met dit komt de RAH-66 Comanche qua uiterlijk wat gedateerd over. De Comanche was natuurlijk ook qua taak de beoogde opvolger van de OH-58D Kiowa.

Ja, natuurlijk want het was een prototype uit de jaren '90, maar de gelijkenis is qua uiterlijk m.i. echt opvallend. Niemand maakt mij wijs dat de Invictus niet voor een groot deel een doorontwikkeling is van het Comanche ontwerp naar onze tijd. Wat dat betreft is de taakstelling van de twee ook vrijwel gelijk.
"The only thing necessary for Evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"- Edmund Burke
"War is the continuation of politics by all other means", Carl von Clausewitz, Vom Kriege/On War (1830).

Sparkplug

Citaat van: Mourning op 02/10/2019 | 15:00 uur
Zekers. Lijkt m.i. HEEL erg veel op de RAH-66 Comanche.

Vergeleken met dit komt de RAH-66 Comanche qua uiterlijk wat gedateerd over. De Comanche was natuurlijk ook qua taak de beoogde opvolger van de OH-58D Kiowa.
A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

Mourning

Citaat van: Sparkplug op 02/10/2019 | 13:18 uur
Ziet er zeker gaaf uit  8)

Zekers. Lijkt m.i. HEEL erg veel op de RAH-66 Comanche.
"The only thing necessary for Evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"- Edmund Burke
"War is the continuation of politics by all other means", Carl von Clausewitz, Vom Kriege/On War (1830).

Sparkplug

#398
Citaat van: jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter) op 02/10/2019 | 13:47 uur
Het zou maar zo de interesse van onze KLu kunnen hebben voor de periode na de Apache E versie.

Hangt ervan af of de KLu meegaat in het FARA ontwerp. Het is toch behoorlijk op Reconnaissance gericht (ook vervanger van OH-58D Kiowa), heeft maar 1 motor en kaliber 20 mm i.p.v. 30 mm.

https://www.defensenews.com/land/2019/10/02/bell-unshrouds-invictus-its-answer-for-the-us-armys-future-attack-recon-aircraft/
A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter)

Citaat van: Sparkplug op 02/10/2019 | 13:18 uur
Ziet er zeker gaaf uit  8)

Het zou maar zo de interesse van onze KLu kunnen hebben voor de periode na de Apache E versie.

Sparkplug

Citaat van: Harald op 02/10/2019 | 12:34 uur
Bell fired up for FARA with 360 Invictus   ( Waaauuuuw .... die ziet er gaaf uit ...)

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Ziet er zeker gaaf uit  8)
A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.