Internationale ontwikkelingen maritiem

[Harald]

Indonesia Looking at Iver Huitfeldt-class Frigate to Boost TNI-AL's Blue Water Force

The Indonesian Government appears to be moving forward with a plan to procure two large displacement frigates for the Indonesian Navy (TNI-AL). The frigates would be based on the Danish Iver Huitfeldt-class and built at local shipyard PT PAL.

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https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/06/indonesia-looking-at-iver-huitfeldt-class-frigate-to-boost-tni-als-blue-water-force/

[Parera]

Volgens het Italiaanse defensie magazine Portale Difesa heeft de Italiaanse overheid groen licht gegeven voor de directe verkoop van 2 GP FREMM fregatten aan Egypte.
De Italiaanse marine gaat de fregatten Spartaco Schergat (F598) & Emilio Bianchi (F589) afstaan aan de Egyptenaren.

Voor het verlies binnen de Italiaanse marine lagen 2 opties op tafel:
- Het aankopen van de 3 PPA fregatten onder optie, dit in volledige uitvoering.
- Het aankopen van 2 extra FREMM fregatten

Er is gekozen voor de laatste optie waarmee het totaal aantal Italiaanse FREMM's uit komt op 14 stuks.

Bronnen
https://www.portaledifesa.it/index~phppag,3_id,3626.html

https://www.portaledifesa.it/index~phppag,3_id,3624.html

Volgens het bijbehorende forum willen de Egyptenaren een totaal van 5 FREMM's in dienst, dit betekend dat ze naast de 2 Italiaanse en 1 Franse FREMM nog 2 extra FREMM's willen aankopen (onderdeel van de 6 fregatten van Italië ?). Wat er met de overige 2 schepen uit het contract gaat gebeuren is nog niet bekend, mogelijk PPA's?

Voor de 2 extra FREMM's die Egypte nog moet ontvangen (nieuwbouw) gaan ze af op de geruchtenmolen van 2x ASW + 2x GP + 1x  Franse ASW.

[Parera]

Kun je die ontwerpen van korea  met phased arrays delen?

Je kan natuurlijk  ook een Stir radar gebruiken, die zit ook op de Goalkeeper.

https://www.thalesgroup.com/sites/default/files/database/d7/asset/document/Datasheet%20STIR%201.2_DS159_10_12_HR.pdf

https://www.thalesgroup.com/sites/default/files/database/d7/asset/document/Datasheet%20STIR_2_4HP_DS168_10_12%20_HR.pdf

https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/goalkeeper-close-weapon-system

Hecht er niet te veel waarde aan maar HIER het artikel van navalnews waar enkele ''koreaanse CIWS's'' zijn geplaatst.

Hieronder het model waar ik het over had uit het artikel

Notional CIWS-II fitted on the KDDX scale model by Hyundai Heavy Industries at MADEX 2019. via Navalnews.com

[Ace1]

Leuk inderdaad voor target tracking maar dat is nog geen zoekradar. Ik heb ontwerpen van korea gezien met phased arrays er in. Daar kun je search & tracking combineren.

Kun je die ontwerpen van korea  met phased arrays delen?

Je kan natuurlijk  ook een Stir radar gebruiken, die zit ook op de Goalkeeper.

https://www.thalesgroup.com/sites/default/files/database/d7/asset/document/Datasheet%20STIR%201.2_DS159_10_12_HR.pdf

https://www.thalesgroup.com/sites/default/files/database/d7/asset/document/Datasheet%20STIR_2_4HP_DS168_10_12%20_HR.pdf

https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/goalkeeper-close-weapon-system

[Parera]

Gewoon de Pharos radar combineren met het 30mm  Gau-8/A Avenger Gateling  kanon en je hebt een Goalkeeper 2.0

https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/pharos-multi-target-tracking-radar

https://www.thalesgroup.com/sites/default/files/database/d7/asset/document/pharos-v01.pdf 

Leuk inderdaad voor target tracking maar dat is nog geen zoekradar. Ik heb ontwerpen van korea gezien met phased arrays er in. Daar kun je search & tracking combineren.

[Ace1]

Denk dat Thales NL, hier goed mee in kan doen want die hebben waarschijnlijk ook nog wel ontwikkelingsdata van de "oude" Goalkeeper en zijn Do en Don't-s, en ook nog redelijke kennis van radars en ook de KM zal een opvolger of goalkeeper 2.0 goed kunnen gebruiken om de eventueel afgeragde NL systemen te vervangen.

Gewoon de Pharos radar combineren met het 30mm  Gau-8/A Avenger Gateling  kanon en je hebt een Goalkeeper 2.0

https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/pharos-multi-target-tracking-radar 

https://www.thalesgroup.com/sites/default/files/database/d7/asset/document/pharos-v01.pdf  

[Parera]

Denk dat Thales NL, hier goed mee in kan doen want die hebben waarschijnlijk ook nog wel ontwikkelingsdata van de "oude" Goalkeeper en zijn Do en Don't-s, en ook nog redelijke kennis van radars en ook de KM zal een opvolger of goalkeeper 2.0 goed kunnen gebruiken om de eventueel afgeragde NL systemen te vervangen.

Ik betwijfel of Nederland hier wel de budgetten en middelen voor heeft om hierop aan te sluiten. De KM gaat dit project waarschijnlijk wel met veel interesse volgen maar aansluiten dat betwijfel ik.
Het is natuurlijk wel een unieke kans om op deze manier een Goalkeeper 2.0 te ontwikkelen maar ik verwacht eerder een MOTS CIWS voor de KM als vervaning van de GK.

Ik verwacht ook dat het niet blijft bij enkel de 30 mm Gatling maar mogelijk toegevoegd een set van raketten vergelijkbaar met het RAM systeem. De SAMOS / SATAN (Frans CIWS met 30 mm gatling) was ook uitgerust met enkele SHORAD raketten in de vorm van Mistrals. De Fransen dit systeem nooit in productie genomen.





De Chinezen hebben voor hun Type 730 CIWS ook een variant ontwikkeld met daarop 6x FL-3000N raketten (Chinese RAM) met een bereik van 6 a 9 km, deze variant heet de Type 730C en is nog niet operationeel.

[Umbert]

Ze willen de GAU-8/A niet alleen blijven gebruiken, maar volgens het Janes artikel ook lokaal gaan produceren.

Denk dat Thales NL, hier goed mee in kan doen want die hebben waarschijnlijk ook nog wel ontwikkelingsdata van de "oude" Goalkeeper en zijn Do en Don't-s, en ook nog redelijke kennis van radars en ook de KM zal een opvolger of goalkeeper 2.0 goed kunnen gebruiken om de eventueel afgeragde NL systemen te vervangen.

[Ace1]

Ze willen de GAU-8/A niet alleen blijven gebruiken, maar volgens het Janes artikel ook lokaal gaan produceren.

Dat doen ze nu al. Hyundai Wai heeft een licentie voor het  30mm  Gau-8/A Avenger Gateling  kanon.

https://www.komachine.com/en/companies/hyundai-wia/products/13955-30mm-Goalkeeper-(Colsed--in-weapon-system)/

[Sparkplug]

Ze gaan ook de GAU‐8/A Avenger seven-barreled autocannon gebruiken, zoals de goalkeeper dit ook heeft. Ook komt er een nieuwe AESA radar systeem, specifiek voor het systeem denk ik.

Ze willen de GAU-8/A niet alleen blijven gebruiken, maar volgens het Janes artikel ook lokaal gaan produceren.

Poongsan, South Korea's largest ammunition manufacturer, already produces K164/K165 missile-piercing discarding-sabot rounds that can be used by the GAU-8/A Avenger, which South Korea is planning to produce domestically through a technology transfer from US manufacturer General Dynamics Ordnance and Tactical Systems.

[Harald]

Meer informatie beschikbaar: https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/aa328ee0-f5d6-49dc-920f-acad4d18bb8f

Ze gaan ook de GAU‐8/A Avenger seven-barreled autocannon gebruiken, zoals de goalkeeper dit ook heeft. Ook komt er een nieuwe AESA radar systeem, specifiek voor het systeem denk ik.

Een Goalkeeper II NG... 

[vlincent]

"South Korea decided Tuesday to develop an indigenous close-in weapon system (CIWS) for its warships by 2030. The Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) said the defence project promotion committee approved the 350 billion won ($283.51 million) project that will be launched next year.
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Bron: https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2020/may-2020/8488-south-korea-will-develop-close-in-weapon-system-for-its-warship-s-fleet.html

Daar gaat een van de goalkeeper groot gebruikers. Ben wel beniewd wat voor systeem het wordt. Ze hebben ervarning met de goalkeeper. Dus misschien iets in dezelfde lijn.

Meer informatie beschikbaar: https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/aa328ee0-f5d6-49dc-920f-acad4d18bb8f

Ze gaan ook de GAU‐8/A Avenger seven-barreled autocannon gebruiken, zoals de goalkeeper dit ook heeft. Ook komt er een nieuwe AESA radar systeem, specifiek voor het systeem denk ik.

[vlincent]

Ik zocht wat informatie over de K-VLS II systeem. Ik kwam deze website tegen:

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/rokn-retrofits-earlier-3-kdx-ii-with-24-enlarged-kvls-i-cells-showcasing-kvls-ii-with-double-size.671851/

Hierin wordt gezegt dat de K-VLS II 1.8 keer de oppervlakte heeft van de K-VLS I, dus de mark 2 neemt meer oppervlakte in bezet op het dek van het schip en dat het een 1.85 keer zo grote payload capaciteit heeft. Ook werd er gezegt dat de Korea bezigt is met hypersonische kruise raketten. En dat een grotere VLS hierbij helpt (Zie post nr 13 en 15).

Dus misschien zal de nieuw Destroyer van Zuid Korea ook hypersonische kruise raketten krijgen in zijn layout.

[Harald]

South Korea Starts Bidding Process for ROK Navy's KDDX Future Destroyer 

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/06/south-korea-starts-bidding-process-for-rok-navys-kddx-future-destroyer/

Wel een interessante ontwikkeling in de ontwerpen als men kijkt naar o.a. de voortstuwing en de bewapening

HHI's KDDX will be fitted with an integrated electric propulsion (IEP) system consisting in 2x propulsion motors (2x 25,000 kW), 2x gas turbine generators (2X 26,000 kW) and 2x diesel generators (2x 3,000 kW). A more classic "CODLOG" propulsion system was also studied, but IEP represents a step in technology and capabilities.

As far as weapon systems are concerned, HHI told us the design is fitted with 8x anti-ship missiles, 48x K-VLS forward and 16x K-VLS II aft. On top of the helicopter hangar is a next generation CIWS

[Harald]

South Korea Starts Bidding Process for ROK Navy's KDDX Future Destroyer 

South Korea's Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) started on May 29 the competitive bidding process for the next generation destroyer of the Republic of Korea (ROK) Navy known as "Korea Next-Generation Destroyer" or KDDX.

According to the DAPA website, companies have until July 20 to submit their bid. South Korea's two main shipbuilders, Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) and Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering (DSME), are competing, each with their own design.

DAPA says that the "Korea Next-Generation Destroyer" program calls for the development of an "Original Korean Destroyer" class by incorporating the latest advancements in domestic shipbuilding and weapon technologies, in line with the "Smart Navy" initiative of the ROK Navy.

According to the program schedule, the basic design is expected to be completed by the second half of 2023. Detailed design and start of construction is set to take place four years from now (2024). The program calls for the construction of six vessels which will be smaller and lighter than the AEGIS type KDX III Batch I and II vessel, but with all Korean weapons and sensor suites. Two key drivers of the program are:

•the implementation of the latest technologies in terms of ship automation, electric propulsion and future proofing
•make the KDDX class more affordable to operate and maintain compared to the KDX III type destroyers

The future destroyer class will displace about 8,000 tons, and is expected to feature K-VLS only (no MK 41 cells) to deploy the latest missiles by LIG Nex1 such as the naval variant of the Hyunmoo-3C (Eagle-3 독수리-3) cruise missile with a range of 1,500 km as well as the naval variant of the Cheongung 3 (also known as L SAM) with a range of 150 km. It will also feature an advanced integrated mast (I-MAST) combining several sensors (TACAN, ESM, IFF, UHF, VHF, IRST) and radar arrays (in S and X bands) in a single mast.

Naval News learned during Seoul Airshow (ADEX 2019) that KDDX is set to feature a BAE Systems' Mark 45 5 inch main gun with the new automated handling system (set to be installed first aboard UK's Type 26 frigate).

HHI's KDDX design

HHI unveiled is KDDX design at MADEX 2019 defense show held last year in Busan. HHI's KDDX is 156 meters in length with a beam of 19 meters and a displacement of 6,500 tons. As far as weapon systems are concerned, HHI told us the design is fitted with 8x anti-ship missiles, 48x K-VLS forward and 16x K-VLS II aft. On top of the helicopter hangar is a next generation CIWS for which funding as just been approved. The crew complement will be between 160 to 180 sailors.

HHI studied three bow types (conventional bow, hi-bow, wave piercing/inverted bow), compared the benefits and compromises of each and found that the third option (inverted bow, similar to DDG 1000 of the U.S. Navy or the future FDI frigate of the French Navy) offered the best advantages.

HHI's KDDX will be fitted with an integrated electric propulsion (IEP) system consisting in 2x propulsion motors (2x 25,000 kW), 2x gas turbine generators (2X 26,000 kW) and 2x diesel generators (2x 3,000 kW). A more classic "CODLOG" propulsion system was also studied, but IEP represents a step in technology and capabilities.

I-MAST by Hanwha Systems

For sensor systems, KDDX will feature a new generation integrated mast. Naval News learned during MADEX 2019, HHI has entered a partnership with Hanwha Systems and their ship design show Hanwha's I-Mast. HHI's competitor for KDDX, DSME is negotiating with LIG Nex1 for a similar type of partnership

According to HHI, the other major sensor innovation of the KDDX is the integrated sonar system: It is a next generation ASW system combining a hull mounted sonar and a towed array sonar.

Smart ship technology development workshop

HHI announced this week that it is pushing for full-scale development of 'Korean Future destroyers' by:
•Holding a workshop on the latest ship technology with several experts in the field
•Leading the defense industry by winning orders for next-generation destroyers

HHI is strengthening cooperation with Korea's leading defense companies and research institutes to develop Korea's future destroyer called 'KDDX'. HHI and the Korea Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering Research Institute held a 'next-generation advanced smart ship technology development workshop' at the Human Resources Development Institute in Ulsan on June 2nd.

The workshop was attended by about 40 experts in design and research in the field of ships, including Nam Sang-hoon, head of HHI's Special Ship Business Division, Ju Se-don, head of POSCO's Steel Solutions Research Institute, Eo Sung-chul, head of Hanwha System's defense division, and Song Kang-hyun, head of the Korea Shipboard Research Institute.

The results of joint research undertaken over the past year were presented during this workshop:
•Smartship solution field
•Damage control and incident response field
•Electric propulsion system field
•Platform safety field
•Combat system (integrated mast) field

The results of research on new technologies including the new material field, the stealth field, and the high-tech ship field, were also presented.

"We have greatly expanded our core manpower for the development of the latest ships, and we have successfully developed a Korean-style surface combatant by successfully consolidating Hyundai Heavy Industries' experience in designing ships and the capabilities of domestic defense companies and research institutes."

Nam Sang-hoon, Head of Special Ships Division, Hyundai Heavy Industries

DSME's KDDX Design

In its baseline configuration, DSME's KDDX has a length of 155 meters, a beam of 18 meters and a draft of 9.5 meters for a displacement of 8,000 tons. It features 48x VLS cells forward, 16x VLS cells aft, 16x anti-ship missiles and 2x K-DAGAIE NG decoy launchers.

As previously explained (during our coverage of MADEX 2019), DSME has already signed a number of contracts with the ROK Navy in previous years:
•DSME signed a KDDX early concept design contract with the ROK Navy back in 2013
•DSME was awarded a contract to perform hull forms design studies in 2016 (see illustration above)
•Finally, in 2019 DSME received a contract to conduct KDDX development studies with the ROK. This contract focuses on automation, crew reduction and "smart ship" concept in line with the ROK Navy new SMART Navy initiative.

I-MAST by LIG Nex1

LIG Nex1 and DSME were negotiating a partnership for the integration of LIG's integrated mast (Hanwha being partnered with HHI). We were told during MADEX 2019 that this potential partnership will be non binding and that DSME remains open to work and integrate Hanwha's I-MAST should the ROK Navy make this choice.

DSME announced in early May that it completed a preliminary study to apply its new electric propulsion system technology to "next-generation high-tech vessels", including the KDDX. The Korea Electric Research Institute, Seoul National University and the Korean Register of Shipping also took part in this research project along side DSME.

Smart ship technology council

In a more recent statement, the South Korean shipbuilder announced that it "is taking the lead in developing smart technologies that will be applied to the next-generation high-tech vessels of the Republic of Korea Navy". A "smart ship technology council" was helf to share research results with experts in smart ship technology from the Navy, industry, academia and government-funded research institutes and accelerate technology development. The technical council was joined by the Navy's Future Innovation Research Group, Korea University, Korea Institute of Machinery (KIMM), Korea Shipboard (KR), SK Telecom, LIG Nex1, Hanwha System, GE, Marine Electronics, and Inoshimulation to share research results in each field. The newly announced smart technology will be applied to the South Korean Navy's first smart ship, the KDDX, which will serve as a key force in the Navy Vision 2045.

"DSME will lead the development of smart vessels that can win the future battlefield environment by forming an industry-academic alliance and one team with a sense of responsibility as a ship system company,"

Yoo su Joon, head of DSME's special ship business division

KDDX CMS and CIC

The South Korean government approved on April 27, 2020, the program for the development of a new combat management system (CMS) for the KDDX. The announcement was made on the Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) website, along with two other programs (one for "Korean Joint tactical data link" and the other for "Tactical Information and Communication System"). The program will span over a period of 10 years (2020 to 2030) and has been allocated a budget of about 670 billion South Korean won (about 550 millions USD).

Two local companies, LIG Nex1 and Hanwha Systems (the same one as for the I-MAST) are set to compete for this development program. Both companies have experience and a proven track record of CMS (software) and CIC (hardware) development and production, both for domestic and export vessels. For example, Hanwha Systems developed and produced the CMS and CIC consoles for the FFX Batch I, II and III Frigates as well as the KSS III submarines of the ROK Navy. On the export fron, Hanwha System supplies the CMS for the BRP Jose Rizal class of the Philippine Navy. LIG Nex1 just completed the upgrade of the ROK Navy KSS I CMS (PIP program) and successfully exported its Naval Shield Combat Management System to Indonesia (upgrade aboard existing Type 209 submarines).

During MADEX 2019, LIG Nex1 unveiled its CIC and CMS proposal for the future KDDX destroyer of the ROK Navy. The future Combat Information Center (CIC) and its Combat Management System (CMS) were being showcased to select VIPs, behind closed doors, on the LIG Nex1 booth during the show. Naval News got a special clearance to access this room and we even got to film it. Unfortunately we didn't get access to a similar room on the Hanwha Systems booth, therefore we can not comment on Hanwha's solution.

LIG Nex1's CIC of the future features a large room with a 360° video wall. The truly unique feature of this CIC is the tactical table: It will be able to display true holograms (as in 3D hologram) without the use of smoke or vertical screen. LIG Nex1 told us that this tactical table will be using "light field display" holographic technology currently being fine tuned by their technology partner (and consumer electronics giant) LG. Light field displays use a microlens array to split an image into individual light rays. Using adequate encoding of the image shown, the display can create a light field directly in front of the viewer's eyes, who can then focus on the various depths of a scene.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/06/south-korea-starts-bidding-process-for-rok-navys-kddx-future-destroyer/