internationale ontwikkelingen MBT , niet Leopard 3 zijnde

Gestart door Harald, 06/01/2024 | 15:34 uur

Harald

Citaat van: Parera op 18/11/2025 | 18:02 uurDe M134D/MG6 is ook een 7.62 mm  :angel:
Maar de Duitsers kennende zullen ze wel kiezen voor de Heckler & Koch 121 / MG5A2, dit wapen is ook geschikt voor KNDS's FLW100 RCWS.

Voorheen hadden wij ook de MAG op de toren van onze Leopards, nu de MG-3 omdat het Duitse lease tanks zijn. Waar we voor kiezen zullen we moeten zien, maar zowel aansluiten bij de Duitse keuze als een eigen RCWS/ wapensysteem zou een optie zijn. De keuze voor FLW200/200 plus zou al voldoende zijn om de NL A8's uit te voeren met een .50.
Maar is een 0.5 voldoende ?
En is de Duitse keuze, een goede keuze ?
En is die keuze heilig en automatisch de Nederlandse keuze ?

Parera

Citaat van: Harald op 18/11/2025 | 13:47 uur:hrmph:  RWS met maar een 7,62 kaliber ?  ik had toch nog liever minimaal een 0.50 (12,7mm) of juist groter gezien als RWS.     

De M134D/MG6 is ook een 7.62 mm  :angel:
Maar de Duitsers kennende zullen ze wel kiezen voor de Heckler & Koch 121 / MG5A2, dit wapen is ook geschikt voor KNDS's FLW100 RCWS.

Voorheen hadden wij ook de MAG op de toren van onze Leopards, nu de MG-3 omdat het Duitse lease tanks zijn. Waar we voor kiezen zullen we moeten zien, maar zowel aansluiten bij de Duitse keuze als een eigen RCWS/ wapensysteem zou een optie zijn. De keuze voor FLW200/200 plus zou al voldoende zijn om de NL A8's uit te voeren met een .50.

Master Mack

Wel inmiddels een hoop gewicht aan de koepel waar ik me begin af te vragen of het draaimechanisme ook versterkt is bij de A8 wordt behoorlijk belast zo

Harald

Citaat van: Huzaar1 op 18/11/2025 | 14:08 uurEen .50 was wellicht wat beter geweest. Maar heb het idee dat de Duitsers sowieso niet zo'n fan zijn van dat wapen. Als je kijkt hoeveel van dat systeem Nederland gebruikt v.s Fra of Dld is dat best uniek.

Als men kijkt waar het A8 model steeds mee tentoon werd gesteld is een 0.5, zie ook onderstaande foto's.




Maar er zijn ook andere RWS mogelijkheden, op alternatieve Leopards zoals op de Leopard 2 A-RC 3.0, zie onderstaande foto met een 30mm (30x113mm), dat lijkt me een betere optie ook met in het achterhoofd een anti-drone functie voor de RWS. Een 20mm zou denk ik ook wel voldoen, maar weer een nieuw kaliber, dan is een 30mm beter. Alleen de voorraad munitie zou een probleem kunnen zijn, hoe groter het kaliber hoe minder voorraad.



Huzaar1

Een .50 was wellicht wat beter geweest. Maar heb het idee dat de Duitsers sowieso niet zo'n fan zijn van dat wapen. Als je kijkt hoeveel van dat systeem Nederland gebruikt v.s Fra of Dld is dat best uniek.
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion" US secmindef - Jed Babbin"

Harald

 :hrmph:  RWS met maar een 7,62 kaliber ?  ik had toch nog liever minimaal een 0.50 (12,7mm) of juist groter gezien als RWS.     

Leopard 2 A8 – der modernste Kampfpanzer der Bundeswehr
https://www.bundeswehr.de/de/beschaffung/leopard2-a8-kampfpanzer-6040490

Op 19 november 2025 is het zover: de modernste versie van de Leopard 2-gevechtstank wordt aan het publiek onthuld. Met de Leopard 2 A8 is het pantserkorps van de Duitse strijdkrachten optimaal uitgerust. Maar wat is er precies nieuw ten opzichte van zijn voorgangers?

De Duitse krijgsmacht heeft in totaal 123 Leopard 2 A8 gevechtstanks besteld voor hun pantserkorps. Het bijzondere aan deze bestelling is dat de A8 een volledig nieuw ontwerp heeft. Sinds 1992 zijn er geen Leopard 2 gevechtstanks meer geproduceerd voor de Duitse krijgsmacht. In plaats daarvan is de bestaande vloot continu gemoderniseerd – meest recent naar de Leopard 2 A7A1-standaard. Om een ��toename van het aantal gevechtstanks mogelijk te maken, worden de Leopard 2 A8's vanaf de grond af opgebouwd. Dit heeft ook als voordeel dat de krijgsmacht haar bestaande tanks niet hoeft af te stoten tijdens de modernisering door de industrie.

Leopard 2 A8 krijgt actief beschermingssysteem Trophy
De eerste ervaring is al opgedaan met de Leopard 2 A7A1 . Het eerste exemplaar van deze variant rolde vorig jaar uit de fabriek in München en diende als technische basis voor de A8. Voor het eerst in de geschiedenis van de Bundeswehr wordt dit voertuig standaard uitgerust met een afstandsactief beschermingssysteem: het in de strijd beproefde Trophy-systeem van de Israëlische fabrikant Rafael. Met de A8 wordt het nu op grote schaal geïntroduceerd bij de pantserdivisie.

Trophy is een hard-kill-systeem. Dit betekent dat het inkomende vijandelijke projectielen vernietigt voordat ze het pantser van de Leopard raken. Het systeem bestaat uit vier radarsensoren en twee lanceerinrichtingen die op de geschutskoepel van de tank zijn gemonteerd. Samen met het 'brein' van het systeem, een krachtige computer, vormen ze een onzichtbaar schild rond de gevechtstank.

Als Trophy via zijn radar een bedreiging detecteert, zoals een vijandelijke antitankraket, beslist hij welke lanceerinrichting het gevaar moet onderscheppen. Deze lanceerinrichting vuurt zijn lading af op de voorspelde baan van het naderende object, waardoor het ontploft voordat het de pantser raakt. Naast Trophy, dat de bescherming van de tank en zijn bemanning aanzienlijk verbetert, is ook de fysieke bepantsering van de Leopard 2 A8 versterkt ten opzichte van zijn voorganger.

Nieuw bedieningsconcept en beproefd hoofdwapen
Omdat de Leopard 2 A8 volledig nieuw is gebouwd, is er de mogelijkheid om alle subsystemen van de tank te moderniseren. Zo krijgt de tankcommandant een nieuwe periscoop om zijn omgeving beter te kunnen overzien. Een ander voorbeeld van optimalisatie is de vereenvoudiging van de bediening van deKanonnier: , die in de loop van de afgelopen moderniseringscycli steeds complexer zijn geworden.

Het 120mm-hoofdkanon blijft echter ongewijzigd. Het blijft gebruikmaken van het Rheinmetall L55 A1-kanon, dat al in de Leopard 2 A7A1 en Leopard 2 A7V was geïnstalleerd . Dit maakt het mogelijk om ultramoderne munitietypen af ��te vuren, zoals de DM73 kinetische-energiepenetrator en de DM11 hoogexplosieve fragmentatiemunitie. Het maximale gevechtsbereik bedraagt ��maximaal vijf kilometer.

Naast het hoofdkanon zal de Leopard 2 A8, net als zijn voorgangers, uitgerust zijn met twee 7,62 mm machinegeweren. Daarnaast zal hij ook een rookgranaatwerpersysteem hebben, dat een rookgordijn kan creëren om zich te verbergen voor de vijand.

Wanneer zal de Leopard 2 A8 in gebruik worden genomen?
Voordat de nieuwe tanks in gebruik worden genomen, zijn er nog diverse tests nodig. Deze moeten ervoor zorgen dat alle doorgevoerde verbeteringen optimaal functioneren als een compleet systeem en de A8 de beste Leopard 2 ooit maken.

De eerste nieuwe Leopard-tanks zullen naar verwachting in 2027 bij de troepen arriveren. Het doel is om alle 123 tanks in 2030 in de kazerne te hebben gestationeerd. Panzerbrigade 45 in Litouwen zal als eerste met de nieuwe voertuigen worden uitgerust. Dit zal de troepen op het NAVO- hoofdkwartier voorzien vanNoord-Atlantische VerdragsorganisatieDe oostflank zal een grotere gevechtskracht krijgen. Met de levering van alle momenteel bestelde Leopard 2 A8-tanks zal de vloot van de Bundeswehr naar verwachting groeien tot 430 gevechtstanks. De A8 levert daarmee een belangrijke bijdrage aan de volledige uitrusting van de pantsereenheden.

Harald


Proposed intergovernmental deal would replace Brazil's Leopard 1s with KNDS-refurbished Leopard 2A6s, pending a full MoD review of costs, logistics and training.

Germany offers Brazil 65 Leopard 2A6 Tanks and 78 Marder 1A5 Infantry Fighting Vehicles.

Germany has formally made a government-to-government offer to transfer 65 Leopard 2A6 tanks and 78 Marder 1A5 infantry fighting vehicles to Brazil, with refurbishment by KNDS Deutschland. The proposal intersects directly with the Army's "Nova Família de Blindados sobre Lagartas," forcing a choice between near-term capability and a long-term industrial plan aligned with NATO standardization.

Brazilian defense outlets report that Berlin has put a concrete package on the table for Brasília: 65 Leopard 2A6 main battle tanks and 78 Marder 1A5s, all pulled from Bundeswehr stocks and slated for KNDS Deutschland overhaul. The Tecnodefesa piece, labeled as an exclusive from Tecnologia & Defesa, says the batch corresponds to older 2A6 conversions that the German Army kept in depots and, according to the article's sources, were even passed over by Ukraine due to condition, a detail that raises questions about reset scope, life remaining, and support costs. The numbers match Brazil's tracked family blueprint, which anticipates an initial 65 combat tanks and 78 infantry fighting vehicles.

At the core of the package is the Leopard 2A6, a second-generation main battle tank (MBT) that introduces the 120 mm L55 smoothbore gun, longer than the L44 on many 2A4s. Open and consistent data place combat weight at about 62.3 tonnes, powered by the 1,500 hp MTU MB 873 Ka-501 diesel, with a crew of four. These parameters provide a workable power-to-weight ratio and high road speeds but require suitable routes, bridges, and dedicated bridging assets. The Marder 1A5, a modernized infantry fighting vehicle (IFV), adds anti-mine kits and an internal reconfiguration to reduce blast injuries, at the cost of greater mass and maintenance compared to earlier variants.

The Leopard 2A6 appears as a candidate to replace the 1990s-era Leopard 1s. If the offer is accepted, KNDS Deutschland would handle refurbishment and maintenance in Germany before delivery, with a gradual force build-up alongside crew and maintainer training. At this stage, the proposal remains an intergovernmental initiative with no signed contract. The Ministry of Defense will need to conduct a comprehensive technical and financial assessment, covering logistics, life-cycle cost, refurbishment timelines, and the actual capability need relative to other market options.

Within national requirements, the MBT sought for the Nova Família targets a modernized architecture and contained weight to avoid wholesale renewal of heavy transporters, military bridges, and depot infrastructure. The 2A6 clearly exceeds the often-cited 50-tonne threshold intended to preserve internal strategic mobility. In a continental country with heterogeneous road and rail classes, adopting a platform above 60 tonnes tightens maneuver plans, lengthens force concentration timelines, and increases reliance on engineer units. The Marder 1A5 partly addresses dismounted protection but does not match the digital architectures of the latest IFV generations on the market.

Ammunition compatibility is a second filter. Brazil's Centauro II uses a 120 mm L45 low-recoil gun optimized for current NATO rounds. The 2A6's L55 delivers higher muzzle energy with long-rod penetrators, but pairing L55 and L45 creates parallel lines for ballistic tables, tube wear management, and propellant optimization. Consolidating a single ammunition chain would therefore be more complex if a mixed set of guns is selected, even if nominal interoperability is maintained.

The industrial dimension weighs as much as the tactical one. KMW do Brasil in Santa Maria built its footprint around the Leopard 1A5BR. Moving to the Leopard 2A6 requires new capacity investments, tooling, and heavy-parts logistics, with contract amendments and offset choices that affect the BID directly. Learning effects are real, yet dependence on German export authorizations remains a risk factor. Past controls and delays tied to German-origin components warrant an assessment of sustainment resilience in scenarios of political tension, sanctions, or European production prioritization for Ukraine and NATO partners.

Tactically and operationally, a 2A6 would serve as a maneuver anchor in the South, where denser road networks and shorter distances favor a heavy MBT with high first-round hit probability. Elsewhere, mass narrows movement corridors and increases dependence on convoys under EMCON, with strict COP/RMP integration to plan sensitive moves and limit exposure. A mixed fleet can work, with the 2A6 for breach and the Centauro II for screen and exploitation, but it duplicates training pipelines, spares holdings, and supply chains.

If the agreement is concluded, it would mark the largest modernization of Brazil's armored fleet in decades. The choice lies between rapid acquisition of refurbished platforms that are potentially available but heavy and support-intensive, and a local trajectory that prioritizes national content, offset, interoperability, and freedom of action. In an environment shaped by the war in Ukraine, European rearmament, and sustained global demand for heavy armor, Brazil's decision will extend beyond the operational sphere by setting the degree of technological dependence, the depth of the BID, and the capacity to maintain a credible and sustainable armored force over time.

https://www.armyrecognition.com/news/army-news/2025/germany-offers-brazil-65-leopard-2a6-tanks-and-78-marder-1a5-infantry-fighting-vehicles

Harald



Romania evaluates German Rheinmetall KF51 tank proposal and local munitions production.

Romania is in talks with Rheinmetall on a land systems package that spotlights the KF51 family, as the government locks in a propellant-powder joint venture in Victoria, Brașov, valued at roughly €535 million under the EU's SAFE instrument. The approach links an MBT decision, potentially 216 tanks beyond 54 Abrams already approved, to a domestic munitions ecosystem meant to ease Europe's ammo bottleneck and deepen local sustainment.

Bucharest and Rheinmetall have confirmed Rheinmetall Victoria SA, a joint venture with state-owned Pirochim that will build a propellant plant in Victoria, Brașov, with construction slated for 2026 and a ramp to about 700 jobs. Company and government statements describe an annual output of around 300,000 modular propellant charges plus roughly 200 tons of powder for Romanian needs, with financing aligned to Security Action for Europe, the EU's new €150 billion defense loan instrument. In parallel, officials are advancing an armored-forces plan that adds up to 216 MBTs on top of 54 M1A2 SEPv3 Abrams, while Rheinmetall positions its KF51 and KF51 Evo as an industrial and capability anchor for the Army.

The Romanian-German setup in Victoria amounts to about 535 million euros, with construction starting in 2026 and a target of roughly 700 jobs. Figures announced by Rheinmetall and the authorities indicate an annual capacity of around 300,000 modular artillery charges and 200 tons of powders for local needs, with shared governance between Rheinmetall and Pirochim, a Romarm subsidiary. The logic is to ease Europe's ammunition bottleneck, secure the upstream supply chain, and establish a defense industrial base (BITD) footprint directly relevant to land programs.

On the platform side, Rheinmetall's proposal centers on the Panther KF51 and its KF51 Evo variant. The former mounts the Rh-130 L/52 130 mm smoothbore integrated into the Future Gun System, with an autoloader providing 20 ready rounds and the option to carry HERO-120 loitering munitions. Rheinmetall claims a range and terminal-effect increase of about 50 percent over current 120 mm systems, along with a rate of fire suitable for multi-target engagements. The KF51 can accept the StrikeShield active protection system, designed to reduce electromagnetic signature, and a 7.62 mm Natter remote weapon station providing short-range C-UAS capability. These features give the hull-turret pairing a firepower and survivability envelope aligned with current NATO requirements.

The KF51 Evo, developed with Hungary, currently adopts a 120 mm L55A1 gun with an autoloader to remain fully compatible with NATO ammunition chains and the Leopard 2 fleets already in service in the region. The turret architecture nevertheless allows a later retrofit to 130 mm, offering Bucharest a graduated path: start with well-understood 120 mm logistics, then move to a performance step if needed. The existence of an Evo program supported by a neighboring EU member reduces technical uncertainty and opens regional cooperation around maintenance, spares, and training.

In Romania, the budget and schedule remain tight. The Ministry of Defense requested at the end of September parliamentary authorization for 216 MBTs and 76 derivatives, assessed at about 6.5 billion euros, with an industrial framework favoring domestic assembly and sustainment. This second phase complements the 54 Abrams M1A2 SEPv3 approved by Washington in 2023. At this stage, other platforms are not excluded, but coupling a munitions industrial agreement with a tank offer built around high local content naturally positions Rheinmetall strongly in the talks.

On the tactical and operational side, the KF51's value lies in the range-lethality pairing of the 130 mm gun, autoloaded ammunition management, and native integration of sensors and counter-UAS functions. Supporting mechanized brigades, a KF51 platoon sets up a fires matrix able to open routes for infantry units backed by 155 mm K9 howitzers being acquired, reducing exposure time through rapid engagements followed by repositioning. Adding StrikeShield reduces vulnerability to anti-armor threats while preserving mobility. Within C2, integration into the Recognized Maritime/air Picture and the Common Operational Picture (RMP/COP) via allied data links improves interoperability, target designation exchange, and EMCON control to limit the signature of tactical groupings during crossings and meeting engagements. For a force already introducing the Abrams, a 120 mm Evo would also allow some logistics commonality, with an option to move later to 130 mm if overmatch is required.

The emerging industrial architecture in Victoria is the second lever. A European capacity of 300,000 modular charges per year feeds artillery stocks directly, stabilizes supply, and reduces extra-EU dependence. By linking this plant to an MBT program with high local content, Bucharest creates momentum for maintenance, engineering, and employment while using SAFE to fund critical sovereignty enablers. Official statements indicate work beginning in 2026 and a three-year ramp-up, aligning with the entry-into-service timetable for new land systems.

Refocusing on the KF51 at the core of a broad agreement with Rheinmetall reshapes Romania's posture on the eastern flank: relative autonomy on munitions, NATO standardization on the MBT segment, and regional industrial anchoring. For the European Union, alignment with SAFE addresses the need to reinforce production chains and resilience. For NATO, combining a modern tank fleet with a local munitions line increases depth around the Black Sea and supports Ukraine's attrition effort through steadier flows. The immediate task is to lock the SAFE list by the end of November and then convert the KF51 option into enforceable contracts so that the land force gains coherence without schedule breaks or industrial dispersion.

https://www.armyrecognition.com/news/army-news/2025/romania-evaluates-german-rheinmetall-kf51-tank-proposal-and-local-munitions-production

Huzaar1

Kwestie van tijd dat de poppetjes eruit worden gehaald. Kqn de tank veel kleiner en dus veel lichter door worden gemaakt.
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion" US secmindef - Jed Babbin"

pz

Merkava 4 – Israeli battle tank increasingly relies on AI



Future concepts envision networked fleets and unmanned tanks, where artificial intelligence plans maneuvers, provides fire support, and prevents threats across multiple platforms. In the planning phase, AI enables faster and more precise tactical maneuvers by integrating sensor data from numerous vehicles.

Israel is also evaluating the integration of AI into active protection systems such as the Israeli Trophy APS, and sensor integration improves survivability against looting munitions, drones and guided missiles.

AI for electronic warfare
AI also supports electronic warfare, the use of countermeasures, and adaptive camouflage to reduce the detectability of tanks.

Dr. Rafi Yoeli, an Israeli AI expert, explained to the Defence Network that AI can be used in armored vehicles for various missions: "It can alert the tank commander to immediate threats and suggest the best responses. This is a very important capability in combat when threats are numerous and evolving very rapidly."

Yoeli added that an AI system can be used for the "health monitoring" of various systems within the armored vehicle. "This gives the tank commander an indication of whether to continue the operation or withdraw because some critical systems are on the verge of failure."

The Israeli AI expert also said that as AI increasingly finds its way into combat systems, it will be used for many more missions.

Trophy-APS as standard on the Merkava
All Merkava tanks are equipped with the Rafael Trophy active protection system (APS) , which defends against anti-tank missiles and RPGs. These systems have been upgraded to also defend against drone and loitering munition attacks targeting the upper, "soft" part of the tank.

Israeli sources said that the intensive use of the Merkava MBT in the recent fighting in Lebanon and the Gaza Strip would lead to further armaments.

Harald



M1E3 Abrams Next-Gen Tank "Pre-Prototype" To Be Delivered By End Of Year

The Army wants a platoon of prototypes very quickly to prove out its lighter-weight hybrid-electric Abrams tank concept.

The U.S. Army is pushing to get a very early prototype of the next-generation iteration of the Abrams tank, or M1E3, before the end of the year. The M1E3 is expected to be substantially different from earlier versions of the Abrams, featuring a host of new defensive capabilities and other advanced technologies, as well as reduced weight and increased fuel economy.

Dr. Alex Miller, Chief Technology Officer and Senior Advisor for Science and Technology to the Chief of Staff of the Army, talked about the state of the M1E3 effort in a live interview today with Defense News' Jen Judson from the floor of the Association of the U.S. Army's (AUSA) main annual conference. TWZ's Howard Altman was among those in attendance and had a chance to follow up with Miller afterward.

https://www.twz.com/land/m1e3-abrams-next-gen-tank-pre-prototype-to-be-delivered-by-end-of-year

pz



Britain's next tank may be already 'near obsolescence'

By George Allison - October 11, 2025

The UK's next main battle tank, the Challenger 3 (CR3), is under development and was displayed at this year's Defence and Security Equipment International trade fair in London.
Prototypes are being trialled at the Armoured Trials and Development Unit at Bovington Camp in Dorset.

CR3 is expected to enter British Army service between 2027 and 2030. On paper, it appears to be a capable vehicle, pending confirmation from field trials conducted by Royal Armoured Corps personnel.

This article is the opinion of the author and not necessarily that of the UK Defence Journal. If you would like to submit your own article on this topic or any other, please see our submission guidelines.

Critics, however, note that Britain is procuring only 148 tanks, with just 60 active protection systems (APS) to be shared across the fleet. Given lessons from Ukraine, that looks risky. The tank also retains the 1,200 hp engine of its predecessor, Challenger 2, criticised by Ukrainian operators as underpowered for its weight. If CR3 approaches 80 tonnes in full combat configuration, questions remain over its mobility and whether British Army recovery and bridging assets can handle it. Its export prospects appear limited.

These criticisms, while valid, do not necessarily mean CR3 will be a poor vehicle. Yet it may represent the final iteration of a now obsolete design philosophy. The current generation of Western main battle tanks, Leopard 2, M1A2 Abrams, and now CR3, are increasingly seen as too large, heavy, costly, and vulnerable to justify further development along traditional lines. Modern battlefields have shown that one inexpensive drone can disable or destroy such machines, and their expense limits fleet size, reducing operational resilience.

Ukraine has shown that mass and redundancy matter. Despite their sophistication, Western tanks are too few to absorb combat attrition or mechanical losses. Their core design parameters, firepower, mobility, and protection, have remained largely unchanged for a century, even as threats have evolved. Designers historically prioritised frontal armour, but conflicts in Ukraine and Nagorno-Karabakh revealed that attacks now come from any direction, including above and below. The threat spectrum has become spherical.

Crew survivability is now paramount. The traditional three-crew turret layout is outdated when autoloaders and remote turrets are widely available. Future designs are likely to follow Russia's T-14 Armata model, with crews enclosed in armoured capsules within the hull. This approach reduces the vehicle's profile and weight, though it does not eliminate vulnerability to top or bottom attacks.

There is a strong case for a shift towards smaller, lighter, and cheaper tanks in the 45–50 tonne range. Such vehicles could feature remote turrets, crews in protected hull compartments, balanced armour coverage, and extensive use of APS and counter-drone defences.

That raises a strategic question: where does Britain go after Challenger 3? Some argue that with such limited numbers, the UK might be better leaving the tank business altogether. Others contend that a smaller, more affordable design could restore credible mass. NATO allies face similar dilemmas as they plan successors to Leopard 2, Abrams, and Leclerc.

The most likely path forward will be a collaborative European programme. France and Germany's Main Ground Combat System (MGCS) aims to replace their current tanks but is not expected before the 2040s, if it survives competing national requirements. More promising in the near term is the Marine Armoured Tank of Europe (MARTE) initiative, led by Germany and supported by ten EU member states and Norway. MARTE aims to bridge the gap between Leopard 2 and MGCS with a new 130 mm-armed, 60–65 tonne tank featuring a remote turret and a three-person crew housed in the hull.

The UK should seriously consider joining MARTE. British firms could contribute to protection systems, optics, powertrains, and suspension, potentially securing both industrial participation and domestic manufacturing. Challenger 3 may serve as a capable stopgap, but it embodies a design philosophy already nearing obsolescence. Britain must look beyond it, and European collaboration offers the only realistic path forward.

Lt Col Stuart Crawford is a political and defence commentator and former army officer. Sign up for his podcasts and newsletters at www.DefenceReview.uk

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/britains-next-tank-may-be-last-of-the-old-breed/

Huzaar1

Het staat allemaal niet stil, drones gaan alles op een moment steeds meer domineren.

Het is duidelijk dat het je het met mensen blootstellen voor langere duur niet lang volhoud. Wil je capaciteiten op de mat kunnen brengen voor langere duur zul je drones in elke dimensie zien:); land, lucht en zee.
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion" US secmindef - Jed Babbin"

pz

Citaat van: Huzaar1 op 17/09/2025 | 18:28 uurIk denk dat ook Rusland in ziet dat een groot tankleger niet meer de sleutel is van de toekomst. Heb je ook niet nodig,

Even uit de heup geschoten.
Dus het concept van verbonden wapens wordt een combinatie van drones die terroriseren + 20 km het front, infantrie, (minder) tanks, artillerie (met raketten voor de  diepte), luchtmacht.
Alleen is het werken met drones nog nooit in een groot offensief gebruikt.

Huzaar1

"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion" US secmindef - Jed Babbin"