Internationale fighter ontwikkelingen

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Sparkplug

Citaat van: Ace1 op 15/03/2017 | 16:45 uur
Thailand heeft ook interesse in de Gripen M.

Waarom de Gripen M en niet de Gripen E? Overigens probeert Saab Thailand te interesseren voor de MS20 update voor hun Gripen C/D.
A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

Ace1

Citaat van: StrataNL op 15/03/2017 | 17:05 uur
Waar baseer je dat op? Het airframe van de Gripen M wijkt nauwelijks af dan dat van de reguliere Gripen. De grootste verandering zit in het versterkte landingsgestel en 'accessoires' als de tail hook.

Ik schat dat Gripen M tussen de $10 en $25 miljoen duurder zal zijn dan een Gripen E en dat is nog altijd goedkoper dan een F35B.

Ace1

Citaat van: StrataNL op 15/03/2017 | 17:05 uur
Waar baseer je dat op? Het airframe van de Gripen M wijkt nauwelijks af dan dat van de reguliere Gripen. De grootste verandering zit in het versterkte landingsgestel en 'accessoires' als de tail hook.

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StrataNL

Citaat van: jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter) op 15/03/2017 | 16:55 uur
Met een handjevol wordt de M duurder dan de F35B

Waar baseer je dat op? Het airframe van de Gripen M wijkt nauwelijks af dan dat van de reguliere Gripen. De grootste verandering zit in het versterkte landingsgestel en 'accessoires' als de tail hook.
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jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter)

Citaat van: Ace1 op 15/03/2017 | 16:45 uur
Thailand heeft ook interesse in de Gripen M.

Dan zal dat hooguit voor een reeds ontwikkelde Gripen M zijn, voor een handjevol kan je het simpelweg vergeten.

Met een handjevol wordt de M duurder dan de F35B

Ace1

Citaat van: jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter) op 15/03/2017 | 16:43 uur
Noem een land met carrier (inspiratie) waarvoor de Gripen M (voor het einde van de Gripen E.F productielijn) in aanmerking zou kunnen komen...

Ook Saab is geen sociale werkplaats.

Thailand heeft ook interesse in de Gripen M.

jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter)

Citaat van: Ace1 op 15/03/2017 | 16:09 uur
Volgens VVD kamerlid Han Ten broeke in 2008 zou de Gipen NG (E) er nooit komen maar hij had niet op Brazilie gerekend die 36 Gripens bestelde.

Noem een land met carrier (inspiratie) waarvoor de Gripen M (voor het einde van de Gripen E.F productielijn) in aanmerking zou kunnen komen...

Ook Saab is geen sociale werkplaats.

Ace1

Citaat van: jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter) op 15/03/2017 | 15:58 uur
Enigste en tevens laatste kans voor de Gripen M

Volgens VVD kamerlid Han Ten broeke in 2008 zou de Gipen NG (E) er nooit komen maar hij had niet op Brazilie gerekend die 36 Gripens bestelde.


Sparkplug

A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

Sparkplug

A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

Harald

Bulgaria received three bids for its MiG-29 replacement competition  (  Het gaat om totaal 8 toestellen )

Bulgaria's Defense Ministry on Monday unveiled three bids from Italy, Sweden and Portugal for the country's MiG-29 replacement competition.

Only Sweden is offering a new jet with its Gripen package. Italy plans to sell its Eurofighters while Portugal is offering its F-16 along with a logistical package from the United States.

Bulgaria has a requirement for eight fighters.

http://alert5.com/2017/03/14/bulgaria-received-three-bids-for-its-mig-29-replacement-competition/#more-61570

Sparkplug

China's J-20 set to receive indigenous engine

13 March, 2017 | Source: Flightglobal.com | By: Greg Waldron | Singapore

China is nearing the use of an indigenous powerplant for the Chengdu J-20 fighter aircraft, although mass production of key engine technologies is a challenge.

A report in the official China Daily newspaper quotes an official of Aero Engine Corporation of China, Chen Xiangbao, as saying that "it will not take a long time for our fifth generation combat plane to have China-made engines."

His comments on progress are somewhat contradictory, however.

Chen says China has produced single-crystal turbine blades and powder metallurgy superalloy turbine disks. Both technologies allow fighter engines to operate at extreme temperatures.


He adds that mass production is still an issue, and that "quality is not very satisfactory."

The J-20 is shrouded in secrecy, as are China's efforts to develop modern fighter engines. It is well known that Beijing perceives the lack of aircraft engine know-how as a major issue.

"The road to success is filled with setbacks and failures," says Chen. "Each of the world's engine powers has walked this road."

Early versions of the J-20, which first flew in late 2010, are apparently powered by an unknown version of the Russian-produced Saturn AL-31F.

The J-20 indigenous powerplant to which Chen refers could be the WS-15, a 30,000lb (133kN) thrust engine in development since the 1990s, and about which little is known.

Chinese state media recently reported that the J-20 has entered People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) service in small numbers. The type made its public debut last year at Airshow China in Zhuhai.

The display saw two aircraft fly down the runway at several hundred feet and perform a vertical split. One aircraft then departed, while its partner performed a few high-g turns followed by a high-speed climb out to conclude the performance.

The aircraft was agile enough for its large size, but stayed within a fairly basic envelope. Neither aircraft conducted a low-speed, high angle of attack pass, nor opened its weapons bays.

Little is known about the J-20's sensor suite, datalink capabilities, and payload.

The jet's large size and lack of thrust vectoring, however, suggest it lacks the manoeuvrability of US fifth generation fighter, the Lockheed Martin F-22. This has led some observers to speculate that one mission is the long-range, high-speed interdiction of pivotal enemy support assets, such as air-to-air refuelling tankers and airborne early warning & control (AEW&C) aircraft.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/chinas-j-20-set-to-receive-indigenous-engine-435075/
A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

Harald

Israel will likely buy a squadron of F-15s   ( .... in de lijn der verwachting ... productielijn van de F-15 blijft nog even draaien)

Israel is likely to place an order with Boeing for a squadron of F-15s and these jets will be more advance than those sold to Saudi Arabia and Qatar, Globes has reported.

Funding for the fighters will be from the U.S. military aid that is provided to Israel every year.

http://alert5.com/2017/03/10/israel-will-likely-buy-a-squadron-of-f-15s/

For a long time, the air force has wanted to replace its F-15s, manufactured by Boeing, with a better version of the aircraft equipped with an advanced active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar system. This aircraft does not have stealth capabilities, but it can carry larger payloads, has advanced attack capabilities, and is operated by a two-man crew, which is an advantage in complex missions. The twin-engine warplane can continue operating even when one of the engines is disabled.

The new F-15s cost $100 million a plane. They are more advanced than the F-15s purchased from the US by Saudi Arabia and Qatar in recent years. Israel insisted that the US refrain from selling the new version to Qatar in order to maintain the Israeli air force's superiority in the Middle East, but former President Barack Obama disagreed, saying that Qatar felt threatened by Iran, and approved the sale of 72 of the aircraft just before he left office.

Since it first flew 40 years ago, the F-15 has undergone upgrades and facelifts. It is classified as a "strategic bomber."

Former senior air force officers explained that the assessment of the new F-15s is based on the belief that the IDF cannot rely on only one type of plane. Commenting on the F-15's lack of stealth capability, the air force veterans said, "Most of today's armaments are fired at the target from a range of tens of miles."

During Moshe Ya'alon's term as Minister of Defense, the defense establishment consensus was that new F-15s were needed. Over the past year, the air force considered the procurement of 75 F-15s, but postponed the decision.

After cabinet approval is obtained for replacing two battle squadrons, a decision will be made between replacing them with F-35s or F-15s. The cabinet decision authorizing procurement of the last 17 F-35s purchased stated that the next procurement program presented by the air force would also present specifications for the F-15, not just the F-35.


http://www.globes.co.il/en/article-idf-mulls-major-fighter-jet-helicopter-deals-1001180035

Poleme

Citaat van: Sparkplug op 08/03/2017 | 20:14 uur
Er wordt al nagedacht over de Rafale F4 standaard (2023-2024).

Dassault bullish on Rafale's long-term prospects

Flightglobal.com
De F4 variant, daar dacht de KLu in de kandidaten vergelijking van 2001 ook al aan.

De toen 'grotendeels papieren' Rafale F4 scoorde toen 10% minder punten dan de toenmalige 'papieren JSF'.
Nulla tenaci invia est via - Voor de doorzetter is geen weg onbegaanbaar.