Spanning(en) rond Iran

Gestart door Lex, 08/10/2008 | 11:56 uur

Lex


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Citaat van: VandeWiel op 14/02/2012 | 16:24 uur
[Men wil of laten zien dat het menens is, of het gaat maart / april daadwerkelijk gebeuren.  :sick:


Als het gaat gebeuren zal het wellicht overwacht eerder komen dan waar nu de speculaties van uitgaan.


VandeWiel

Citaat van: jurrien visser op 14/02/2012 | 15:19 uur
Drie carriers is een aanzienlijk fire power... en ik geloof niet in een carrier als sitting duck, oud of niet, er zitten wel minimaal 6.000 man a.b.

Men wil of laten zien dat het menens is, of het gaat maart / april daadwerkelijk gebeuren.  :sick:


Tuurlijk wil men die carrier niet verliezen, maar liever een gat in de romp van een afgeschreven carrier dan van een die vorig jaar in dienst is gegaan. Ik ben er van overtuigd dat er een realistisch risico is voor de deelnemende carriers ook al probeer je alles om dit te beperken.

VandeWiel

Citaat van: Lex op 14/02/2012 | 15:55 uur
Schepen in de Arabische Golf:
HMS Argyll , HMS Sommerset, HMS Ramsey, RFA Lyme Bay, HMS Echo.
USS Abraham Lincoln, USS Cape St. George, USS Momsen, USS Sterett.

Schepen in de Arabische Zee:
USS Carl Vinson, USS Bunker Hill, USS Halsey.


En een kaartje:


http://en.rian.ru/infographics/20120116/170787562.html

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Citaat van: Lex op 14/02/2012 | 15:55 uur
Schepen in de Arabische Golf:
HMS Argyll , HMS Sommerset, HMS Ramsey, RFA Lyme Bay, HMS Echo.
USS Abraham Lincoln, USS Cape St. George, USS Momsen, USS Sterett.

Schepen in de Arabische Zee:
USS Carl Vinson, USS Bunker Hill, USS Halsey.


Waar is die Fransoos gebleven die de Lincoln begeleide?

Lex

Schepen in de Arabische Golf:
HMS Argyll , HMS Sommerset, HMS Ramsey, RFA Lyme Bay, HMS Echo.
USS Abraham Lincoln, USS Cape St. George, USS Momsen, USS Sterett.

Schepen in de Arabische Zee:
USS Carl Vinson, USS Bunker Hill, USS Halsey.

IPA NG

Mwa, carriers zijn denk ik best kwetsbaar. Ik hoop voor de Amerikanen dat ze wat geleerd hebben van hun aanvaring met de Walrus en die met een Zweedse sub.
Militaire strategie is van groot belang voor een land. Het is de oorzaak van leven of dood; het is de weg naar overleven of vernietiging en moet worden onderzocht. --Sun Tzu

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Citaat van: jurrien visser op 14/02/2012 | 14:52 uur
ABOARD THE USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN (AP) — The American aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln has passed through the Strait of Hormuz, shadowed by Iranian patrol boats.

But there were no incidents on Tuesday as the Lincoln's battle group crossed through the narrow strait

Ergens staat mij nog vers in het geheugen dat de Iraniërs geen carrier(s) meer in de Golf zouden accepteren, dit tegen de nodige consquenties.

Het kan natuurlijk zijn dat dit alleen gold voor de vorige carrier in de golf.

"Baarden met grote monden"  ;D

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Citaat van: VandeWiel op 14/02/2012 | 15:05 uur

Misschien nog wel een boeiende met betrekking tot carriers: de USS Enterprise zou +- maart naar de golf moeten gaan. Het wordt haar laatste tocht aangezien ze uit dienst genomen wordt. Als er een carrier vervangbaar is en averij op mag lopen is het die wel. Uiteraard wil de VS nooit of te nimmer een carrier verliezen, maar liever die dan een ander mocht het toch goed fout gaan.


Drie carriers is een aanzienlijk fire power... en ik geloof niet in een carrier als sitting duck, oud of niet, er zitten wel minimaal 6.000 man a.b.

VandeWiel

Citaat van: AP op 14/02/2012 | 14:52 uur

Several US choppers flanked the carrier group


En daarmee weten we het us antwoord tegen mogelijke swarming technieken, of ze zijn gewoon normaal ook al voor het geval er een kist in moeilijkheden is?!

Als je dat zo leest is er toch wel redelijk wat Iraanse activiteit.

Misschien nog wel een boeiende met betrekking tot carriers: de USS Enterprise zou +- maart naar de golf moeten gaan. Het wordt haar laatste tocht aangezien ze uit dienst genomen wordt. Als er een carrier vervangbaar is en averij op mag lopen is het die wel. Uiteraard wil de VS nooit of te nimmer een carrier verliezen, maar liever die dan een ander mocht het toch goed fout gaan.

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Misschien heeft het ene niets met het andere te maken, de aanslagen van gisteren en dan deze....

Bangkok blast wounds Iranian attacker, 4 others

Originally published: February 14, 2012 3:46 AM
Updated: February 14, 2012 8:36 AM
By The Associated Press  THANYARAT DOKSONE (Associated Press), TODD PITMAN (Associated Press)

Photo credit: AP | EDS NOTE GRAPHIC CONTENT - A suspected bomber lies injured at an explosion site in Bangkok, Thailand Tuesday, Feb. 14, 2012. Three explosions in Bangkok have wounded four Thai civilians and blown off the legs of the foreign suspect whom police blamed for the violence. (AP Photo)

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BANGKOK - (AP) -- An Iranian man carrying grenades blew off his own legs and wounded four civilians in a trio of blasts Tuesday in Bangkok, Thai authorities said. The explosions came a day after an Israeli diplomatic car was bombed in India -- an attack Israel blamed on Iran.

Authorities say it's unclear whether Tuesday's Bangkok explosions were linked to the New Delhi attack, but Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor said, "we can't rule out any possibility."

Thai security forces found more explosives in a house where the Iranian man was staying in Bangkok, but it was not known what targets they might have been meant for, Police Gen. Pansiri Prapawat said.

Pansiri said a passport found at the scene of one of the blasts in Bangkok indicated the assailant was Saeid Moradi from Iran. Authorities in Tehran could not immediately be reached for comment.

Tuesday's violence began in the afternoon when a stash of explosives apparently detonated by accident in Moradi's house, blowing off part of the roof. Police said two foreigners quickly left the residence, followed by a wounded Moradi.

"He tried to wave down a taxi, but he was covered in blood, and the driver refused to take him," Pansiri said. He then threw an explosive at the taxi and began running.

Police who had been called to the area then tried to apprehend Moradi, who hurled a grenade to defend himself. "But somehow it bounced back" and blew off his legs, Pansiri said.

Photos of the wounded Iranian showed him covered in dark soot on a sidewalk strewn with broken glass. He lay in front of a Thai primary and secondary school. No students were reported wounded.

A dark satchel nearby was investigated by a bomb disposal unit. Pansiri said police found Iranian currency, US dollars and Thai money in the bag.

Three Thai men and one Thai woman were brought to Kluaynamthai Hospital for treatment of injuries, said Suwinai Busarakamwong, a doctor there.

Another Iranian was detained Tuesday night at Bangkok's international airport as he attempted to leave for neighboring Malaysia, said police commander Winai Thongsong. Authorities were interrogating the man, but it was not yet known whether he was involved in Tuesday's blasts.

Last month, a Lebanese-Swedish man with alleged links to pro-Iranian Hezbollah militants was detained by Thai police. He led authorities to a warehouse filled with more than 8,800 pounds (4,000 kilograms) of urea fertilizer and several gallons of liquid ammonium nitrate.

Israel and the United States at the time warned their citizens to be alert in the capital, but Thai authorities said Thailand appeared to have been a staging ground but not the target of any attack.

Pansiri said that "so far, we haven't found any links between these two cases."

Immigration police are trying to trace Moradi's movements, but initial reports indicated he flew into Thailand from Seoul, South Korea on Feb. 8, Pansiri said. He landed at the southern Thai resort town of Phuket, then stayed in a hotel in Chonburi, a couple hours drive southeast of Bangkok, for several nights.

Bangkok's blasts came one day after bombs targeted Israeli diplomats in India and Georgia. The attack in India wounded four people, while the device found in Georgia did not explode. Iran has denied it was responsible.

In Jerusalem, Israeli foreign ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor said there was not yet any sign that any targets in Bangkok were Israeli or Jewish.

Israeli police have increased the state of alert in the country, emphasizing public places, foreign embassies and offices, as well as Ben-Gurion International Airport.

Thailand has rarely been a target for foreign terrorists, although a domestic Muslim insurgency in the country's south has involved bombings of civilian targets.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/bangkok-blast-wounds-iranian-attacker-4-others-1.3528097

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En nog wat extra info over het bericht zojuist geplaatst door Lex

Iranian boats shadow USS aircraft carrier in Gulf

Several US choppers flanked the carrier group

ABOARD THE USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN (AP) — The American aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln has passed through the Strait of Hormuz, shadowed by Iranian patrol boats.

But there were no incidents on Tuesday as the Lincoln's battle group crossed through the narrow strait, which Iran has threatened to close in retaliation for tighter Western sanctions.

Several U.S. choppers flanked the carrier group throughout the voyage from the Gulf. Radar operators also picked up an Iranian drone and surveillance helicopter in Iran's airspace near the strait, which is jointly controlled by Iran and Oman.

The Lincoln entered the Gulf last month amid heightened tensions with Iran. It is scheduled to begin providing aiding the NATO mission in Afghanistan starting Thursday.


Copyright Associated Press

Lex

USS Abraham Lincoln in Strait of Hormuz voyage

The Abraham Lincoln was protected by other US vessels The US aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln has sailed through the Strait of Hormuz, close to the coast of Iran, for the second time in recent weeks.

A BBC reporter on board said an Iranian patrol boat at one point passed by two miles (3.2km) from the carrier.

Iranian officials recently threatened to close the channel, through which 20% of the world's oil exports pass, in a row over oil trade embargoes.

The BBC's Jonathan Beale on board the Abraham Lincoln says the US has insisted it will keep the vital shipping lane open.

Earlier, the US navy said the Iranian patrol boat passed within about half a mile of the carrier, but they later corrected this to two miles.

A French warship and UK naval vessels accompanied the aircraft carrier in a journey through the strait last month.

The EU last month banned all oil imports from Iran amid growing concern over Tehran's nuclear programme.

Both the US and EU have since lobbied countries around the world to block Iranian oil imports.

Iran says its nuclear programme is solely for power generation, but Western nations fear Tehran is trying to develop a weapons capability.

BBC News,
14 February 2012 13:30 GMT

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When will Israel Attack Iran?


By Jijo Jacob: Subscribe to Jijo's RSS feed

February 14, 2012 7:39 AM EST

The Israeli embassy attacks in India and Georgia have predictably raised the Middle East war cacophony with Tel Aviv and Tehran wasting no time to add a suitable spin.

Israel pointedly said the attack, which left the wife of an embassy official critically wounded in New Delhi, was planned and executed by the Hezbollah, with the backing of Iran. Iran said the attacks were stage-managed by Israel to twist the tale.

The moot question is not what exactly will finally trigger an Israeli attack on Iran, but when.

Straws in the wind indicate that a non-war option does not hold much water in the current situation. Obviously there are two non-war options, but both look disappointingly implausible. They are: 1) Iran should retreat from its nuclear enrichment process and activities the West alleges are intended to make an N-bomb and 2) Israel, the West and Iran's pathological foes in the Arabian Gulf should live with a nuclear Iran. Both of these options are impractical.

Then there is a third way, which is probably only of syllogistic worth -- maintaining the status quo. Even this does not look possible as with each passing day Iran's purported march towards the nuclear weaponization gains pace.

In August 2009, Ex-US envoy to the United Nations, John Bolton, whipped up frenzy by "predicting" that an Israeli attack on Iran was impending and Tel Aviv had only hours left to deal a crippling blow to the nuclear ambitions of its arch enemy.

His reasoning was based on the timing of the loading of nuclear fuel into the Bushehr reactor in Iran by the Russians. He said it was logical for Israel to launch an attack before the reactor became operational, lest it should cause the release of radioactive material.

Tel Aviv did not meet that deadline. A lot of equations have changed hence, including the fact that Iran has gone several paces ahead with its capability to enrich uranium to purity levels far higher than the energy production requirement.

There was frenzied talk in Israel of an imminent attack in November, with Haaretz reporting that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak were trying to muster more support for such a move within the cabinet. It was reported that among other prominent political figures, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman was converted to the pro-attack camp.

Closer to date, the U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Pannetta said in the beginning of the month that an Israeli strike on Iran was highly likely in April. Pannetta's statement was in effect a stamp of approval for the war theories, though the U.S. confirmed its position that aggression will only be resorted to when all other options fail.

The 'other options" are basically the years-old sanctions and the newly agreed EU oil embargo, which comes into effect on July 1. And that date is of momentous importance too; that is, if the attack has not taken place before that.

Iran warned the West in stern language in January when the EU agreed on the oil embargo, saying, it would block the Strait of Hormuz if such a move ever took place. The proposed oil embargo, under which EU member countries will stop importing Iranian crude, would cut off an important lifeline for Iranian economy and push the oil exporting country into choking off production for want of buyers.

"If any disruption happens regarding the sale of Iranian oil, the Strait of Hormuz will definitely be closed," the deputy head of Iranian parliament's foreign affairs committee, Mohammad Kossari, said. The U.S. did not take kindly to Iranians' promise of counter aggression, and the saber-rattling heightened.

Military Build-up

Reuters reported in January that the number of U.S. forces in Kuwait grew in recent weeks to about 15,000. This included two combat brigades withdrawn from Iraq. Critics of the U.S. have always speculated if Iraq withdrawal and cutting down the size of operations in Afghanistan were part of a strategy to prepare for an assault on Iran.

The U.S. military said in January that there were two aircraft carriers in the region and a third was on its way, though Pentagon officials insisted that there was no plan to increase the military presence in the region.

Meanwhile, unconfirmed reports say the U.S. and Israel are actively militarizing the region in anticipation of a war with Iran.
Debka File, an independent news Web site specializing on Middle Eastern affairs, says U.S. air, naval and marine forces are trooping around strategic locations in the regions like the Socotra island near Yemen and the Omani island of Masirah, near the Strait of Hormuz.

Besides increasing its own military presence in the region, the U.S. has also historically helped its allies, especially Israel, with the latest weaponry.

Paul Craig Roberts pokes fun at the U.S. over the military largesse it showered on Israel while the country is battling with its own economic demons.

"Washington has presented Israel a gift from the hard-pressed American taxpayers of an expensive missile defense system, money spent for Israel when millions of unassisted Americans have lost their homes," Roberts wrote in Global Research.

"The US has continued to provide its Gulf allies with advanced military equipment to counter Iran. Saudi Arabia has received billions of dollars of advanced equipment, including AH-64 Apache attack helicopters, M1 Abrams main battle tanks, and F-15S multirole fighters," says a report by the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

In Israel, the mood is decidedly combative as ever, and military leaders are openly vouching for stiffer preparations for an attack on Iran.

Israeli Army Chief of Staff Lieutenant-General Benny Gantz said earlier in the month that military capabilities should be enhanced and the country should be ready for a strike against Iran as "there is no doubt that Iran is striving for a bomb". According to Gantz, Tel Aviv may build a bomb within a year.

A couple of days ago, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad said he would unveil some major breakthroughs in the country's nuclear pursuit in the coming days. The Iranian leader's statement would look hollow if he does not follow it up with details of the country's progress, but it definitely suggests that no one in Iran is in a mood to give away the rights to uranium enrichment.

The impasse is getting harder to unlock with each passing day.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/298289/20120214/iran-israel.htm

irma

Rosenthal: zorgen om nucleair programma Iran
WENEN -  Minister van Buitenlandse Zaken Uri Rosenthal heeft ,,met zorg" kennis genomen van de nucleaire ontwikkelingen in Iran. De minister sprak maandag in Oostenrijk met afgevaardigden van het Internationale Atoom- en Energie Agentschap (IAEA). ,,De informatie die ik ontving is niet bemoedigend", aldus Rosenthal

Minister Uri Rosenthal (Buitenlandse Zaken) Minister Uri Rosenthal (Buitenlandse Zaken) Foto: ANP

De IAEA zegt dat de ontwikkeling van het nucleaire programma van Iran doorgaat. Het orgaan sprak de zorg uit over de mogelijke militaire dimensie van dat programma. Volgende week brengt de IAEA een nieuw bezoek aan Iran.

Wat Rosenthal betreft is de enige mogelijk voor Iran om uit de impasse te komen door openheid van zaken te geven. ,,Iran is nu aan zet om met bewijslast te komen dat de nucleaire installaties geen militaire maar enkel civiele bedoelingen hebben. Het afgesproken sanctiepakket moet de druk opvoeren."

Bron: http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/11509548/___Zorgen_om_Iran___.html?sn=binnenland
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