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Gestart door Harald, 17/07/2018 | 10:45 uur

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France's first Griffon VBMR accepted from Nexter

French Defence Minister Florence Parly accepted the first Griffon 6×6 multirole armoured vehicle (Véhicule Blindé Multi-Rôles: VBMR) on behalf of the French Army on 4 July in a ceremony at the Satory plant of Nexter, the vehicle's manufacturer.

France has placed a total order of 1,872 Griffons under the Synergie du Contact Renforcée par la Polyvalence et l'infovalorisation (SCORPION) programme, which was launched in 2014, and is France's plan to modernise the French Army's ageing vehicle fleet.

The Griffon is the largest vehicle order in the programme, with the other main vehicle ordered being the Jaguar 6×6 reconnaissance vehicle. The Griffon is to replace the French Army's 2,661-strong Véhicule de l'avant blindé (VAB) fleet, which has been in service since 1978.

[Source: Janes.com ]

Huzaar1

Yanks zijn stupide met hun 105mm. De cv90120 is perfect hiervoor.
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion" US secmindef - Jed Babbin"

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U.S. Army expects to receive about 500 modern "light tanks"

The U.S. Army seeks to receive as soon as possible the new combat vehicle, commonly known as a light tank, to provide the Infantry Brigade Combat Team (IBCT) with a protected platform capable of delivering overwhelming precision firepower combined with the ability to move rapidly in a variety of terrain conditions.

Under the Mobile Protected Firepower program, the U.S. Army will choose the newest combat vehicle which is one of the most critical needs for the Army, particularly for its IBCT who lack protected, long range, cyber resilient precision direct fire capability for early entry operations. IBCTs require this capability to be employed in austere and unpredictable locations allowing them to avoid the enemy's strengths and rapidly transition to offensive operations and exploit the initiative.

According to a recent report released by Army News Service, the Mobile Protected Firepower vehicle, part of the Next-Generation Combat Vehicles suite, is currently in competition after two vendors were chosen in December to each build 12 prototypes for under $376 million.

Beginning in March, those prototypes will be put through the wringer in a series of lethality, survivability and mobility tests. A light infantry unit at 82nd Airborne Division will also conduct an assessment later next year to gain Soldier input.

"It will be the first time anybody really puts their hands on it," said David Dopp, the vehicle's project manager at Program Executive Office Ground Combat Systems. "That's a real key test."

The Army expects to receive about 500 MPFs, which it will start fielding in fiscal 2025.
Each infantry brigade combat team will get their own 14-vehicle company for armor support.

One vendor will be chosen to begin producing the vehicles in fiscal 2022.

The "light tanks" would help infantry Soldiers blast through obstacles, take out machine-gun nests and defend against other armored vehicles.

"Infantry would go out on foot or in a Humvee, but then if they ran into some fortification, a bunker or other vehicles, everything kind of stopped," Dopp said Wednesday at the International Armored Vehicles USA conference. "With MPF, we can break through that."

The "light tank" will be a tracked vehicle with likely a 105 mm cannon and 7.62 mm coaxial machine gun for firepower, he said.

At least two of them would need to fit on a C-17 cargo aircraft, and each vehicle would weigh less than 40 tons, much lighter than an M1 Abrams tank that can weigh 60 tons or more.

"It has better mobility for the infantry than [an Abrams] tank," Dopp said. "It goes where the infantry goes."

The MPF could be a game-changer for infantry units and fill a lethality gap they have had since 1996, when the M551 Sheridan light tank was officially retired without a replacement.

"We haven't put a 'tank' in a light infantry unit for a long time," said Maj. Gen. Brian Cummings, head of PEO GCS.

Today, an infantry brigade combat team has little to protect itself from an adversary with light armored vehicles, particularly Russia, which the Defense Department considers to be a near-peer adversary.

"In flows a company's worth of MPFs to help give an armor capability against the threat," Cummings said, "so they're not just there all by themselves with their javelin missiles."

While the MPF will have some of the latest available technology, autonomous features as well as additional sensors and other improvements could be implemented into it in the future.

"When we get it out there, we'll start looking to put on those more advanced technologies," Dopp said. "It was all about getting it out there in a hurry."

[Source: Defence-blog.com ]

Hier is nog geen Europees antwoord op, de Russen hebben wel lichte tanks en straks ook de Amerikanen. Tenzij we die CV90120T's weer van de plank halen en laten dienen al lichte tanks naast de MBT's.

Sparkplug

A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

Huzaar1

Ah rhein, excuus. Ik zal er straks eens goed naar kijken.
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion" US secmindef - Jed Babbin"

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Citaat van: Huzaar1 op 01/07/2019 | 18:49 uur
Er komt geen Brits Duitse mbt, dat is ook helemaal niet het plan van de fusie.

KMW gaat de c2 helpen te brengen naar de 21e eeuw. Thans it.

Het gaat hier om Rheinmetall en BAE Systems, KMW heeft in deze joint venture niks te zeggen. Dat KMW & Rheinmetall samen de Boxer hebben ontwikkeld is een ander verhaal.

Wat er eigenlijk gebeurd is dat Rheinmetall 55% van de aandelen overneemt in het bedrijf ''Land UK'' en BAE systems behoud 45% van de aandelen. Het blijft wel een Brits bedrijf maar met een Duitse aandeelhouder.

Huzaar1

Er komt geen Brits Duitse mbt, dat is ook helemaal niet het plan van de fusie.

KMW gaat de c2 helpen te brengen naar de 21e eeuw. Thans it.
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion" US secmindef - Jed Babbin"

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Rheinmetall spearheads ongoing consolidation in military vehicle sector
https://www.armyrecognition.com/june_2019_global_defense_security_army_news_industry/rheinmetall_spearheads_ongoing_consolidation_in_military_vehicle_sector.html

Rheinmetall and Bae Systems launches UK based joint venture
https://www.armyrecognition.com/july_2019_global_defense_security_army_news_industry/rheinmetall_and_bae_systems_launches_uk_based_joint_venture.html

In deze joint venture Rheinmetall BAE Systems Land (RBSL)  gaan Rheinmetall & BAE Systems samenwerken om o.a. de Boxer aan het VK te verkopen maar ook hopen ze mee te doen aan de vervanging van de Challenger 2 MBT's in de toekomst.

Dat kan heel interessant worden:
- Frans-Duitse MBT
- Brits-Duitse MBT





Sparkplug

A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

Sparkplug

A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

Sparkplug

A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

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Harald

Citaat van: Sparkplug op 07/06/2019 | 19:59 uur
2 x 50mm op een rupsonderstel zie ik wel gebeuren, maar gaat dat ook op voor de Zuid-Koreaanse aangepast APC op wielen?

Op wielen ..  nee, niet

Maar een pruttel NG met 2x 50mm op leopard 2 onderstel...  :hrmph:... zou wel wat zijn, denk ik.

Zal waarschijnlijk niet gebeuren,  voor mijn gevoel wordt nu vol ingezet op laser... maar dat zie ik nog niet operationeel worden binnen 10 jaar.

Sparkplug

Citaat van: Harald op 07/06/2019 | 19:42 uur
In Westese calibers heb je volgens mij de keus uit 35, 40 of 50 mm als dubbele kanon systeem.
Maar ik denk dat de voorraad munitie mede de bepalende factor is voor de keus van het kaliber, naast het bereik van het systeem.
Een pruttel met 2x 50 mm ?... wel heftig

2 x 50mm op een rupsonderstel zie ik wel gebeuren, maar gaat dat ook op voor de Zuid-Koreaanse aangepast APC op wielen?
A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

Harald

In Westese calibers heb je volgens mij de keus uit 35, 40 of 50 mm als dubbele kanon systeem.
Maar ik denk dat de voorraad munitie mede de bepalende factor is voor de keus van het kaliber, naast het bereik van het systeem.
Een pruttel met 2x 50 mm ?... wel heftig

De Amerikanen hebben tests gedaan met 50mm in anti air. Ik weet zo niet meer hoe de resultaten waren ten opzichte van andere bestaande systemen met 20mm, 30mm.