Defensiebegrotingen en -problematiek, niet NL

Gestart door Lex, 10/07/2006 | 21:54 uur

caruso

Citaat van: Demian 45 Painfbat op 22/07/2006 | 21:58 uur
Ik zou een kat in de lucht springen als het ook zo in NL zou gebeuren.
Extra inf,cavelerie,atillerie,apaches,chinooks,rendabel aantal F-35s..
Dat zou ons hoog in de ranking kunnen trappen. :D ;D :angel:

Demian.
Dat zou ik ook wel willen: "een kat in de lucht springen". Hoe doe je dat? Moet je dan pantserinfanterist zijn?
En wat betreft die ranking: zijn we met een wedstrijd bezig?
Volgens mij hebben we, afgezien van alle saneringsoperaties,niets te klagen qua materieel.

demian

Citaat van: Offenbach op 22/07/2006 | 22:27 uur
Citaat van: Demian 45 Painfbat op 22/07/2006 | 21:58 uur

Extra inf,cavelerie,atillerie,apaches,chinooks,rendabel aantal F-35s..

Vergeet de Marine niet!  ;)

Ik zal het eerlijk zeggen ik zie niet echt veel nut in de KM wel in de MARNS.

Maargoed de Boxer,Ayala,extra chinooks en cv9035 komen dat is wel weer mooi!

Demian.

Offenbach

Citaat van: Demian 45 Painfbat op 22/07/2006 | 21:58 uur

Extra inf,cavelerie,atillerie,apaches,chinooks,rendabel aantal F-35s..

Vergeet de Marine niet!  ;)

Mourning

Citaat van: Demian 45 Painfbat op 22/07/2006 | 21:58 uur
Ik zou een kat in de lucht springen als het ook zo in NL zou gebeuren.
Extra inf,cavelerie,atillerie,apaches,chinooks,rendabel aantal F-35s..
Dat zou ons hoog in de ranking kunnen trappen. :D ;D :angel:

Demian.

Ja, maar vergeet dan a.u.b. ook even niet hoe diep vooral Duitsland is gezonken de afgelopen 15 jaar.

Als wij het budget in de volgende periode op 1,7% van het BNP brengen ben ik BIJZONDER tevreden, maar aangezien er een grote kans is dat de PvdA in de regering zal komen denk ik eerder dat we naar 1,5% of, gruwel 1,4% duiken. En dat zijn GROTE verschillen wat betreft geld in de begroting ondanks dat het maar een of twee decimalen uitmaakt in het cijfer hier.

Regards,

Mourning  8)
"The only thing necessary for Evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"- Edmund Burke
"War is the continuation of politics by all other means", Carl von Clausewitz, Vom Kriege/On War (1830).

demian

Ik zou een kat in de lucht springen als het ook zo in NL zou gebeuren.
Extra inf,cavelerie,atillerie,apaches,chinooks,rendabel aantal F-35s..
Dat zou ons hoog in de ranking kunnen trappen. :D ;D :angel:

Demian.

Lex

Norway To Increase Troops Despite Budget Cuts
By GERARD O'DWYER, HELSINKI
Defense News, 07-10-2006.

Norway's present and future commitments to international missions has forced the government to add troops to the Army even as the country reduces its defense spending, Defense Minister Anne-Grete Strøm-Erichsen told the Storting, or national legislature, on June 29.
Since 2000, Norway Armed Forces (NAF) has reduced the Army's deployment strength from 2,900 to 2,200, just as Norway's commitments to rapid deployment international missions headed by the United Nations, NATO and the European Union has risen from 700 to 1,000 troops.
"Norway wants to play its part in crisis management and in peacekeeping situations. We must make sure that our armed forces have the personnel and the resources to execute their missions successfully," said Strøm-Erichsen, who conceded that it would be difficult to reduce defense spending just as the other commitments grow.
The MoD and the Norwegian Armed Forces Command (NAFC) are planning to recruit up to 1,000 extra Army soldiers by 2008. The MoD is also working to estimate the costs of adding them to the Army's payroll.
The planned recruitment push would raise the Army's deployment strength to 3,200 within two years, said NAFC spokesman Brig. Gen. Kjell Grandhagen.
"The Norwegian Army has gone through a tough period of reorganization with significant reductions in personnel at all levels. More officers and enlisted personnel are required to fulfill our defense obligations, especially in the area of international missions," Grandhagen said .
The NAFC generally supported government proposals to reorganize the armed forces but resisted cuts in defense spending. Their support came as the government agreed to fund the move to a more compact, modernized, and better equipped Army, Navy, Frontier Guard and Air Force.
For its part, the MoD sought assurances from the NAFC to increase transparency in spending and to eliminate budget overruns, which totaled $120 million in 2004, out of a total defense budget of $4.8 billion. The Army accounted for $70 million of the overruns.
The reorganization of the armed forces is expected to continue through 2006. It will run parallel with the introduction of tighter accounting systems and spending controls monitored by the MoD.
The NAF's finances improved significantly in 2005 when it returned a $40 million operating surplus, due largely to cost reductions and the sale of real estate. The NAF saved $30 million after it reduced its use of consultants.
Ironically, the drive to cut operating expenses on national NAF activities is taking place as the MoD moves to improve the Army's capacity to participate in international missions. NAF's chief, Gen. Sverre Diesen, discussed the idea of cuts with Strøm-Erichsen in May. Diesen said the NAF would find it difficult to make more cuts.
"Further pressure to make cutbacks could make it necessary to cancel exercises, reduce our stores of ammunition, fuel and reserve parts," Diesen said in a statement after the meeting.
The NAFC is engaged in the Defence Study 07 Project, intended to help the Defense Staff deliver comprehensive and professional military recommendations to the MoD and the government in 2009-12. The project estimates that the reformed armed forces will require $5.2 billion a year through 2026.
The project is scheduled to present its recommendations to the NAFC by September 2007, giving lawmakers time to revise the armed forces' operational strategy and the required resources by March 2008.
The NAF is seeing steady growth in peacekeeping and other projects, including financial and logistical support for a new regional headquarters for the Afghan Army at Meymaneh in Faryab province.
The NAF is engaged in interna-tional missions in Afghanistan, the Balkans, Sudan, Iraq, Ethiopia/Eritrea and the Middle East. Norway's biggest contribution is in Afghanistan, where it leads the Provincial Reconstruction Team in Meymaneh.

Lex

Personnel Consumes Most of German Budget Hike
By SEBASTIAN SCHULTE, BONN
DEfense News, 07-10-2006

Germany's coalition government has passed a 2007 federal budget that calls for a 16 percent increase in defense spending, but most of that hike is earmarked for personnel issues.
The plan, approved July 5 by the Christian-Social Democratic Cabinet of Chancellor Angela Merkel, sets defense spending at 28.4 billion euros ($36.4 billion), up from the 23.9 billion euros being spent this year. However, most of that increase — about 4 billion euros — is from pension and retirement funding for soldiers and civil personnel that, for the first time, is being folded into the defense budget instead of standing alone in the federal spending plan.
Defense is second only to the Employment and Social Ministry in an overall federal budget of 276.6 billion euros, with the ministry taking the lion's share at 122 billion euros.
Pension funding aside, the Defense Ministry will see an extra 480 million euros next year, yet most of that is to cover rising procurement costs of some 300 million euros annually, thanks to an increase in the common value-added tax on goods to 19 percent. The 180 million euros left represents the true budget growth, which can be spent on operations by the Ministry of Defense.
'Not Enough'
This increase for defense spending "is not enough," said Elke Hoff, representing the liberals on parliament's defense committee. "The passed budget does not reflect the operational reality encountered by German troops during their missions in Afghanistan, for example."
Hoff said that instead of acquiring available mission-relevant items — like improvised explosive device jammers or more armored vehicles like the Dingo 2 — the budget is charged for several years with the expensive Eurofighter Typhoon aircraft and Tiger UH attack helicopters, the maintenance for which is not yet reflected in the budget calculation.
"I don't doubt the need for those procurements, but I do doubt that the numbers we're acquiring are really needed," Hoff said. "The Bundeswehr is not more expensive than other armed forces; it just doesn't get the money it needs to do the job."
A defense expert in Berlin pointed to more demands on the already strained defense budget, such as Germany's commitment in Congo. And Germany is expected to commit itself more to out-of-area missions.
"Word is that Defense Minister Franz-Josef Jung is already talking in Berlin about a German commitment in Sudan," the expert said.
"We're paying too much for military aviation, which we don't need in the ordered quantity. By 2010, the Bundeswehr will have serious problems regarding its budget and fulfilling the missions asked of it if this is not countered now," he said, noting that the armed forces are chronically underfinanced. "The past budgets shared similar problems and the budget passed for 2007 does not show a way out."