Internationale fighter ontwikkelingen

Gestart door Lex, 19/12/2015 | 16:32 uur

Huzaar1

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Citaat van: Benji87 op 23/03/2024 | 11:42 uurTja financieel gezien is het natuurlijk wel een logische beslissing geweest natuurlijk. Als je de operationele kosten van een 2motorig toestel vergelijkt met een 1motorig toestel dan zie je wel duidelijk wat de beweegredenen waren. Motoren zijn nu eenmaal het meest onderhoudsgevoelig van een vliegtuig.

Het is jammer maar het is niet alsof de F35 nu stil staat in zijn ontwikkeling. Er komt nog wel een flinke upgrade aan van de huidige motor. De beweegredenen zouden misschien ook voldoende kunnen zijn om eens te kijken of de huidige F35A groep landen wellicht zelf deze ontwikkeling kan doorzetten. Al zie ik dat niet zo snel gebeuren.
Je snapt het niet of ik volg je niet.... Niemand heeft het over een tweemotorige F-35.

Ten tijde van de ontwikkeling van de F-35 zouden er twee typen worden ontwikkeld... dat is door budget niet gebeurt. Een motortype is overgebleven.
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion" US secmindef - Jed Babbin"

Benji87

Citaat van: Huzaar1 op 22/03/2024 | 13:38 uurWas een budgetbeslissoing destijds om geen 2 motoren te ontwikkelen voor de JSF.

Gaan we nu idd voelen.

Tja financieel gezien is het natuurlijk wel een logische beslissing geweest natuurlijk. Als je de operationele kosten van een 2motorig toestel vergelijkt met een 1motorig toestel dan zie je wel duidelijk wat de beweegredenen waren. Motoren zijn nu eenmaal het meest onderhoudsgevoelig van een vliegtuig.

Citaat van: Harald op 22/03/2024 | 14:03 uurErg jammer, had voor de prestaties van de F35 een flinke boost kunnen geven.
Meer vermogen, lager verbruik, groter bereik.

Het is jammer maar het is niet alsof de F35 nu stil staat in zijn ontwikkeling. Er komt nog wel een flinke upgrade aan van de huidige motor. De beweegredenen zouden misschien ook voldoende kunnen zijn om eens te kijken of de huidige F35A groep landen wellicht zelf deze ontwikkeling kan doorzetten. Al zie ik dat niet zo snel gebeuren.

Parera

Citaat van: jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter) op 23/03/2024 | 03:17 uurZeker knap en ik denk ook dat ze het kunnen maar.... ik denk, vooralsnog, dar zij zich zullen aansluiten bij één van de twee in ontwikkeling zijnde Europese initiatieven al zou de NAVO wereld ook een 6e generatie één pitter kunnen gebruiken.

Of ze ontwikkelen een prachtige UCAV dat zie ik ook nog gebeuren.

jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter)

Citaat van: Huzaar1 op 22/03/2024 | 23:26 uurKnap, dapper die zweden.

Zeker knap en ik denk ook dat ze het kunnen maar.... ik denk, vooralsnog, dar zij zich zullen aansluiten bij één van de twee in ontwikkeling zijnde Europese initiatieven al zou de NAVO wereld ook een 6e generatie één pitter kunnen gebruiken.

Zander

Citaat van: Huzaar1 op 22/03/2024 | 23:26 uurKnap, dapper die zweden.
Iemand moet het doen. En als er een land is dat het kan.....
People are sheep

Huzaar1

"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion" US secmindef - Jed Babbin"

Harald

Sweden asks Saab to study 'future fighter concepts'

As Stockholm plots its way forward, Saab CEO Micael Johansson had called for such a study in a previous interview with Breaking Defense.

The Swedish military has asked local defense giant Saab to conduct "conceptual studies for future fighter systems," the company announced today.

"This includes conceptual studies of manned and unmanned solutions in a system of system perspective, technology development and demonstrations," Saab said in a press release. The Stockholm-based firm said it would work with government agencies and industry partners on the study.

The announcement comes after Saab CEO Micael Johansson called for additional study in an interview with Breaking Defense in September.

At the time, Johansson said Saab was already part of an initial Swedish Defence Materiel Administration (FMV) study but said he hoped the agency "will now move forward with a more comprehensive study and put more money into it so we can test and simulate things."

Weeks after those comments, an official speaking at the International Fighter Conference in Madrid told the audience that Sweden planned to delay a decision on how to approach its future fighter jet needs until 2031 and in the meantime would be assessing the "risks and possibilities" of different approaches.

Three options are on the table: Either "build a system, develop a system with someone, or... acquire a system," the official said, speaking under Chatham House Rules. "It's an open question."

Saab, it appears, has been contracted to answer at least part of that question.

For a time Sweden had been party to the UK-led Future Combat Air System (FCAS) but has paused its participation. FCAS is one of several competing international initiatives to explore next-generation "system of system" concepts in which a new fighter plays a central role in a multi-part combat effort.

Sweden, however, is not in the greatest of hurries as it weighs its options; the Saab-made Gripens it flies now are expected to be able to serve for decades to come.

"We do not have an immediate need for a new fighter, which perhaps is different for other nations," Gen. Lars Helmrich, director of air and space systems at the Swedish Defence Material Administration, said at an event hosted by the Swedish Air Force Fan Club in Paris in June 2023. "We're looking to start early [for planning purposes] and be better situated for when we need to decide on the next fighter. It's a matter of pace."

https://breakingdefense.com/2024/03/sweden-asks-saab-to-study-future-fighter-concepts/?_ga=2.92889246.2067843798.1711093416-1958275474.1666165906

Harald

Erg jammer, had voor de prestaties van de F35 een flinke boost kunnen geven.
Meer vermogen, lager verbruik, groter bereik.

Huzaar1

Was een budgetbeslissoing destijds om geen 2 motoren te ontwikkelen voor de JSF.

Gaan we nu idd voelen.
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion" US secmindef - Jed Babbin"

Sparkplug

Citaat van: Breaking Defense op 22/03/2024 | 13:20 uurIt's official: The F-35 will not get a new engine anytime soon

After rancorous debate, a new engine for the stealth fighter was already in doubt, but legislation released by congressional appropriators today seemingly puts the issue to rest.

With text of the fiscal year 2024 spending agreement finally released today, lawmakers have officially decided the future of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter's engine.

According to explanatory text accompanying the legislation, lawmakers will provide $280 million for advanced engine development work — money that will mostly go to Pratt and GE Aerospace, which have both developed prototype powerplants through the Air Force's Adaptive Engine Transition Program (AETP) and are competing to build an engine for the service's secretive Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) fighter.

But that $280 million is just for the engine industrial base, the text says. In fact, "[t]he agreement does not support the integration of an alternative engine on the F-35, and includes a new general provision that prohibits the use of funds to integrate an alternative engine on any F-35 aircraft."

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https://breakingdefense.com/2024/03/its-official-the-f-35-will-not-get-a-new-engine-anytime-soon/

Jammer. Bij de F-16 zorgde de strijd tussen P&W en GE voor betere motoren. Wel met de kanttekening dat beide verschillend zijn qua grootte en dus niet uitwisselbaar. Bij de F-35 was drop-in juist gewenst.

Hopelijk heeft de P&W F135 motor nog voldoende ruimte voor doorgroeimogelijkheden.
A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

Harald

It's official: The F-35 will not get a new engine anytime soon

After rancorous debate, a new engine for the stealth fighter was already in doubt, but legislation released by congressional appropriators today seemingly puts the issue to rest.

With text of the fiscal year 2024 spending agreement finally released today, lawmakers have officially decided the future of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter's engine.

According to explanatory text accompanying the legislation, lawmakers will provide $280 million for advanced engine development work — money that will mostly go to Pratt and GE Aerospace, which have both developed prototype powerplants through the Air Force's Adaptive Engine Transition Program (AETP) and are competing to build an engine for the service's secretive Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) fighter.

But that $280 million is just for the engine industrial base, the text says. In fact, "[t]he agreement does not support the integration of an alternative engine on the F-35, and includes a new general provision that prohibits the use of funds to integrate an alternative engine on any F-35 aircraft."

.../...

https://breakingdefense.com/2024/03/its-official-the-f-35-will-not-get-a-new-engine-anytime-soon/

Harald

Boeing Receives Super Hornet Order From US Navy

The U.S. Navy awarded The Boeing Company a $1.3 billion contract March 19 for the purchase of 17 F/A-18 Super Hornets and delivery of a technical data package vital to the sustainment of the platform.

NAVAIR press release

"The technical data package was a crucial part of this negotiation; it is necessary for naval aviation's operational readiness and post-production sustainment," said Rear Adm. John Lemmon, Program Executive Officer for Tactical Aircraft Programs. "The Super Hornet remains a predominant aircraft in the carrier air wing and will continue to provide significant combat capability into the 2040s." 

The Navy received appropriated funds from Congress to purchase these Super Hornets to help mitigate the strike fighter shortfall. The award is an Undefinitized Contract Action with the intent to definitize within the next few months.

"I am very proud of our team; their mission-focused mindset, data-driven approach and persistence resulted in an agreement that will greatly benefit the sustainment of the Super Hornet and Growler aircraft well into the future," said Capt. Michael Burks, Program Manager for the F/A-18 and EA-18G Program Office. "It is our job to ensure our warfighters have all the necessary resources to defend our nation and return home safely."

Delivery of the new Super Hornets is scheduled to begin in the winter of 2026, with final delivery no later than spring 2027.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2024/03/boeing-receives-super-hornet-order-from-us-navy/

Harald

How F-35s Deployed To A Narrow Highway In California
https://www.twz.com/sea/how-f-35s-deployed-to-a-narrow-highway-in-california

The War Zone was on the scene for VMX-1's exercise Obsidian Iceberg, that served as a glimpse of what's to come in the Pacific.





Harald

Brazilian air force plans a new squadron of Saab JAS 39 Gripen fighters

The Brazilian Air Force is considering a new squadron of Saab JAS 39 Gripen fighters. According to an order issued on March 5, 2024, by the Brazilian Air Force General Staff (Emaer), a working group has been established to develop guidelines for activating the 1st/4th GAV Pacau Squadron at Anápolis Air Base (BAAN), one of the largest air bases in South America. The order discusses the reactivation of the Pacau Squadron in Anápolis, a unit many thought would remain disbanded in favor of the 1st/16th GAV - Adelphi Squadron, which ceased operations in 2016 when it was flying Embraer A-1 AMX tactical fighters.

Currently, the SAAB Gripen fighter is only operated by the 1st Air Defense Group of the Anápolis Air Base (BAAN). The 1st GDA is traditionally an air defense unit, specialized in interception, air superiority, and air dominance. However, it is envisaged that the Pacau Squadron might be deployed for air-to-ground missions, while the 1st GDA would maintain its traditional air-to-air combat profile.

In December 2023, the 1st Air Defense Group at Anápolis Air Base, which operates Gripen fighters, had seven aircraft, including the test aircraft 4100 performing trials from the Gripen flight test center at Embraer in Gavião Peixoto (SP) since 2020. Saab had agreed to a contract for a fleet of 36 aircraft with the South American country in 2013. As part of this transfer to the Brazilian Air Force, training was organized in partnership with Saab and the Swedish Air Force's Phoenix Squadron. Additionally, Swedish support groups are also present at Anápolis Base to assist the FAB in commissioning the Gripen E.

The Saab JAS 39 Gripen is a versatile, fourth-generation multi-role fighter aircraft developed by the Swedish aerospace company Saab. Featuring a delta wing and canard configuration, it offers exceptional agility and performance. The Gripen entered service with the Swedish Air Force in 1997 and has been adopted by several other countries. Known for its cost-effectiveness, ease of maintenance, and advanced avionics and systems, the Gripen can execute a variety of missions, including air defense, reconnaissance, and ground attack. Continuously updated since its production began in the late 1980s, the Gripen represents a contemporary solution for modern air forces looking for operational flexibility.

This initiative to strengthen Anápolis with the activation of a new squadron of F-39 Gripen highlights the strategic importance of this air base for the defense of Brazilian territory. It also reflects the versatility and advanced capabilities of the Gripen fighter, capable of adapting to various types of missions and thus enhancing the operational efficiency of the Brazilian Air Force.

https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_march_2024_global_security_army_industry/brazilian_air_force_plans_a_new_squadron_of_saab_jas_39_gripen_fighters.html

Harald

USAF Seeks NGAD Fighter Boost, Navy F/A-XX Investment Slows In New Budget

The Air Force and Navy appear to have prioritized their next generation fighter programs differently in the Pentagon's 2025 budget request.

https://www.twz.com/air/usaf-seeks-ngad-fighter-boost-navy-f-a-xx-investment-slows-in-new-budget


F-15EX Fleet To Be Cut Down To 98 Jets In New Air Force Budget

The USAF is still trying to get a handle on how many F-15EXs it actually wants, but how many it really needs is another question.

https://www.twz.com/air/f-15ex-fleet-to-be-cut-down-to-98-jets-in-new-air-force-budget