Klein kaliber vuurwapens

Gestart door Sparkplug, 05/01/2017 | 19:15 uur

Parera

USMC wil lichtere .50 BMG-munitie voor meer flexibiliteit

https://soldat-und-technik.de/2023/12/bewaffnung/36230/usmc-will-leichtere-50-bmg-munition-fuer-mehr-flexibilitaet/

Een marktstudie vanuit het USMC voor 24 tot 30% lichtere patronen voor de .50, dat klinkt best interessant. Ook voor de Nederlandse krijgsmacht en dan voornamelijk de infanterie.

Lynxian

Dank voor de toelichting heren!

Huzaar1

Citaat van: Lynxian op 08/12/2023 | 17:56 uurWeet je hier ook de reden van? Ik heb nooit een wapen met silencer afgevuurd, maar heb altijd begrepen dat het 'silence'-effect wel meevalt.

Demping van mondingsvlam en flinke reductie geluid. Veel moeilijker door vijand te bepalen waar je zit.
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion" US secmindef - Jed Babbin"

Lynxian

Citaat van: Huzaar1 op 08/12/2023 | 11:39 uurVeel silencers. Zie je ook in OEK btw.
Weet je hier ook de reden van? Ik heb nooit een wapen met silencer afgevuurd, maar heb altijd begrepen dat het 'silence'-effect wel meevalt.

Huzaar1

Veel silencers. Zie je ook in OEK btw.
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion" US secmindef - Jed Babbin"

Harald

US paratroopers and Rangers test Next Generation Squad Weapons  ( testen met 6.8mm )

Screaming Eagle Division soldiers at Fort Campbell just completed training and testing the U.S. Army's 6.8mm family of Next Generation Squad Weapon-Rifle (NGSW-R), NGSW-Automatic Rifle (AR) and the NGSW-Fire Control (FC) systems. Maj. Rodrick A. Polk, test officer, Maneuver Test Directorate, U.S. Army Operational Test Command, reports.


An infantryman with the 2nd Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment (Strike Force), 2nd Brigade (Strike), 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) (Screaming Eagles), fires the Next Generation Squad Weapon-Automatic Rifle (NGSW-R) at Fort Campbell, Kentucky

Troops of Alpha Company, 2nd Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) and members of 1st Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, undertook New Equipment Training on the NGSW. "The New Equipment Training gave the soldiers a good base before coming out and using the NGSWs," said Infantryman Sgt. Jack Scott, a team leader in Alpha Company.

Their training covered the similarities and differences between the new weapons and the legacy 5.56mm M4A1 Carbine and M249 Squad Automatic Weapon systems, focusing on enhanced lethality. "We did a lot of training with both static and maneuver ranges, so the product of Soldier you get now, during the live fire, is high quality due to all of that training," added Scott.

Once complete with new equipment training, soldiers tested the NGSW in a Limited User Test, or LUT, in a crawl-walk-run method to ensure all operational data is collected on the weapon, as well as user integration with the new equipment.

Alpha Company and 1st Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment initially conducted static qualification and variable distance ranges with legacy weapon systems and NGSW, to compare the performance of both and give Soldiers repetitions and familiarity with the NGSW. Alpha Company 1st Sgt. Justin Babb appreciated the benefits of participating in an operational test and the opportunity for his junior Soldier's feedback to contribute and impact Army modernization. "The candid feedback that the Soldiers and NCOs provided during focus groups and surveys will provide the Army with perspective from the lowest level of the user who will use the system," said Babb.


An infantryman with 2nd Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment (Strike Force), 2nd Brigade (Strike), 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault), firing NGSW-R

Major differences between the legacy M4, M249 systems and the NGSWs were immediately noticeable by the soldiers. Spec. Maximiliano Arguindegui, an automatic rifleman with the 1/75th Ranger Regiment, said, "Overall, I feel faster with the M249, but I prefer the NGSW-AR because it makes me more lethal". Scott added, "Stopping power with the 6.8 round is a big improvement compared to the M4 and M249 and having the ability to use with or without the suppressor is a huge feature for the support by fire element."

Leaders of Alpha Company also said participating in a test with the Operational Test Command enabled them to get after their internal readiness. Alpha Company Commander, Capt. Jordan Mares, said: "Being a part of the NGSW test supported our company readiness. The LUT gave us opportunities to hone our craft, practice lessons learned with feedback from subject-matter experts, and the ability to conduct a lot of repetitions to practice small unit tactics."

Staff Sgt. Ivan Alvarez, a Squad Leader with Alpha Company, was initially skeptical of the NGSW: "When we first started the LUT, I was very against the NGSW-R," he said. "I'm used to the M4 — it's lighter — I'm used to the recoil, the engagements, everything the M4 has to offer. But, as we went through the LUT with the NGSW-R, I can see the capabilities that it brings to an infantryman, especially at a longer distance."

Alvarez also said testing the new weapons gave his squad added training opportunities: "We got after a lot of training that we would normally have to wait months to set up and accomplish," he said. "We were able to get more marksmanship time, more range time, and were able to train under various environmental conditions."

Another squad leader with the Rangers provided his observations on the training benefit while participating in an operational test: "We were able to get reps in on a new weapon system as well as our legacy equipment," said Sgt. Joseph Martin. "We were able to train on many basic things that we want to train on every year, but condensed to get more repetitions, as well as live fire iterations for our younger, inexperienced Soldiers."


A Ranger with the 1st Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, engages targets during squad live fire (blank iteration)

https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_december_2023_global_security_army_industry/us_paratroopers_and_rangers_test_next_generation_squad_weapons.html



Sparkplug

Op het gebied van klein kaliber vuurwapens laat het DPO 2023 het volgende weten.

Defensiebrede vervanging Klein Kaliber Wapens (deel vervanging Colt): A-brief 2025
Defensiebrede vervanging Klein Kaliber Wapens (deel klein kaliber ondersteunende wapens): A-brief 2026
A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

Sparkplug

Zowel de British Army als de Royal Marines krijgen de L403A1 ter aanvulling van het L85A3 geweer.

De L403A1 is de Knight's Armament Company (KAC) KS-1.



Britain's Commandos to get new assault rifles

https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2023/september/07/230907-royal-marines-new-rifle

New advanced rifle for Ranger Regiment

https://www.army.mod.uk/news-and-events/news/2023/09/newadvancedrifle/

A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

Huzaar1

Citaat van: Sparkplug op 05/07/2023 | 09:01 uur5,56 x 45 mm en 7,62 x 51 mm munitie levert qua afmetingen altijd twee verschillende lower receivers op. Hopelijk bedoelen ze met common dat ze op elkaar lijken.



Natuurlijk bedoelen ze dat, zoals het er ook staat zou ik het niet anders kunnen interpreteren. Je kunt een vierkantje niet door een driehoekje duwen.
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion" US secmindef - Jed Babbin"

Sparkplug

Citaat van: Nicholas Drummond op 04/07/2023 | 17:21 uurVia @Nicholasdrummond

Attending Shrivenham Close Combat Symposium at UK Defence Academy 4-6 july.

Symposia@Shrivenham @SympatShriv

The British Army will commence the replacement of 156,000 SA80 rifles via Project Grayburn from FY 2024/ 25, with contract award in FY 2027/ 28, entry into service FY 2029/ 30 and IOC in 2030/ 31

To add a little more detail:
> 5.56 mm & 7.62 mm ammunition will be retained at section & platoon level (there are no plans to adopt US Army's 6.8x51 mm NGSW)
> Grayburn will be a family of weapons based on a common lower receiver


5,56 x 45 mm en 7,62 x 51 mm munitie levert qua afmetingen altijd twee verschillende lower receivers op. Hopelijk bedoelen ze met common dat ze op elkaar lijken.

Citaat van: Nicholas Drummond op 04/07/2023 | 17:21 uurTo add a little more detail:
> Not necessarily an AR15 rifle

No decision on what options will be tested at this stage. Non-exhaustive list of likely contenders includes:
- SIG MCX LT


De SIG MCX LT familie is in feite ook een AR-15 met zuiger net zoals de HK416. Vijf van de negen genoemde types hebben een link met de AR-15.

Van de genoemde types geef ik SIG MCX LT, FN SCAR-L en H&K HK416 in willekeurige volgorde de meeste kans.
A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

Parera

Citaat van: pz op 04/07/2023 | 17:21 uurVoor wanneer staat de vervanging van de Diemaco voor Nederland in de planning? 

In het DMPO 2022 staat het project ''Defensiebrede vervanging Klein Kaliber Wapens (deel vervanging Colt)'' genoteerd voor het versturen van de A-brief in 2023.

Meer info is er volgens mij (openbaar) nog niet te vinden.

pz

Via @Nicholasdrummond

Attending Shrivenham Close Combat Symposium at UK Defence Academy 4-6 july.

Symposia@Shrivenham @SympatShriv

The British Army will commence the replacement of 156,000 SA80 rifles via Project Grayburn from FY 2024/ 25, with contract award in FY 2027/ 28, entry into service FY 2029/ 30 and IOC in 2030/ 31

To add a little more detail:
> 5.56 mm & 7.62 mm ammunition will be retained at section & platoon level (there are no plans to adopt US Army's 6.8x51 mm NGSW)
> Grayburn will be a family of weapons based on a common lower receiver
> 3 to 4 different variants expected to be acquired (dismounted infantry / mounted infantry rifle, other arms rifle, PDW)
> Not necessarily an AR15 rifle

No decision on what options will be tested at this stage. Non-exhaustive list of likely contenders includes:
- SIG MCX LT
- FN Herstal SCAR
- H&K HK416 (AR15 piston)
- H&K HK433
- Knights Armament (AR15 non-piston)
- LMT (AR15 non-piston)
- Daniel Defense (AR15 non-piston)
- Beretta ARX 160
- CZ Bren 805 Mk 2

Voor wanneer staat de vervanging van de Diemaco voor Nederland in de planning? 

Sparkplug

LAND 159 ? Australia?s Path to Future Small Arms and Support Weapons

https://euro-sd.com/2023/06/articles/32307/32307/
A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

Sparkplug

Common Rifles Firing Same Ammo To Arm Finnish, Swedish Forces (Zweden gaat voor het Finse merk SAKO)

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/common-rifles-firing-same-ammo-to-arm-finnish-swedish-forces
A fighter without a gun . . . is like an airplane without a wing.

-- Brigadier General Robin Olds, USAF.

Harald