Nieuwe ontwikkelingen op 120mm mortier gebied

Gestart door Ace1, 22/06/2014 | 22:09 uur

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Citaat van: Strata op 23/06/2014 | 19:02 uur
18 stuks 120mm HB Rayé, eerst 6 bij de mariniers en 12 luchtmobiel, nu samengevoegd bij het VustCo met de 18 PzH2000 (van die laatste + 7 opleidingsdoeleinden en de rest in verkoop..)

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De mariniers hebben geen 120mm mortieren meer..slaat helemaal nergens op toch ? iedere infantarie eenheid moet zijn eigen 120mm mortieren hebben ben ik van mening.
Je kan niet voor alles een Apache of F-16 oproepen veel werk kan gedaan worden door een paar 120mm granaten op een doel te pompen.
Of de commando's ze nodig hebben moeten ze zelf bepalen ..misschien dat hun genoeg hebben aan 81mm

Ace1

ATK-GD OTS Team to Deliver the Marines with Precision Mortar Bombs

ATK and General Dynamics Ordnance and Tactical Systems (GD-OTS) have both announced they will submit bids for the Marine Corps' requirements for the rifled, 120mm Precision Extended Range Mortar (PERM). The Marine Corps is planning to award contracts for the PERM development and demonstration phase, by mid-2012 with demonstration tests expected by 2014 and production contract awarded in 2015.

On October 4 ATK announced it will be teaming with GD-OTS to offer a full-up solution for the U.S. The new guided munition will provide the Corps' Expeditionary Fire Support System (EFSS) towed-mortar the option to engage point targets from ranges of 16 – 20km. ATK announced it will be the prime contractor to the USMC for the PERM Engineering and Manufacturing Development (EMD) program, providing the guidance fuze technology, to be combined with the propulsion and warhead subsystems delivered by General Dynamics. ATK is already providing a similar solution for the U.S. Army 120mm mortars.



The Marine Corps anticipates PERM guided bombs will expand the effect of its Expeditionary Fire Support mortar System to engage targets at distances up to 20 km. , with precision of 20 meters and up to 10 meters. Photo: U.S. Marine Corps.
Three days later, GD-OTS also announced it will also submit a proposal for the PERM program, positioning itself as a prime contractor for the program. For its bid GD-OTS will employ its own technologies, already demonstrated with mortar munitions, such as the Roll Control Guided Mortar (RCGM) and Extended-Range Rocket-Assisted Propulsion system. The 120mm RCGM provides a low-cost guided mortar solution, as it employs a standard M934A1 mortar warhead and M734A1 fuze components, and patented Roll-Controlled Fix Canard (RCFC) technology. It uses GPS guidance to provide an effective, truly affordable precision-strike capability. In March 2011, General Dynamics successfully guided 120mm mortar rounds to less than 10 m CEP at both minimum and maximum range in test firings at the Yuma Proving Grounds, Arizona. All live test rounds detonated successfully and were demonstrated in proximity, point detonate and delay fuze modes. In October 2009, the company also successfully demonstrated 120mm rocket-assisted mortars fired from the M327 rifled mortar at ranges from 17 to 18 km. General Dynamics has been marketing and supporting the 2R2M 120mm (M327) rifled mortar selected for the EFSS. The mortar was originally built by the TDA Armaments, a joint venture between France's Thales and the European Aeronautic Defence and Space Co. (EADS).

In service with the marine Corps since 2009, the EFSS is a light, mobile and air-transportable mortar system designed for missions requiring tactical versatility, speed, and close-in fire support. The system is composed of a pair of Prime Mover vehicles, the 120mm M327 weapon, the four-round family of munitions and an ammunition trailer. It is designed to be internally transportable in the MV-22B Osprey and the CH-53 helicopter. GD-OTS is currently producing the ammunition for this mortar system. The current M-327 ammunition suite utilizes a standard Insensitive Munition (IM) based High Explosive (HE), Smoke, Illumination and Practice rounds, offering an effective range of 8.2 km. The standard fuse fitted to the projectiles provides point detonation or airburst capabilities.

http://defense-update.com/20111004_perm_guided_120mm_bombs_for_efss_mortars.html#.U6iZG5R_vMp

Ace1

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Ik heb de titel aangepast naar Nieuwe ontwikkelingen op 120mm mortier gebied

Misschien kan een beheerder dit volledig doen?

Ace1

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Citaat van: Nikehercules op 23/06/2014 | 22:55 uur
Ok. Het KCT gaat daar long ranges patrouilles uitvoeren, hoe denk je deze te gaan ondersteunen met het relatief korte bereik van dit systeem?

Door een jeep met een Spear 120mm Mobile Mortar System mee te sturen.

Nikehercules

Citaat van: Ace1 op 23/06/2014 | 22:37 uur
De Spear 120mm Mobile Mortar System is snel inzetbaar en je hebt maar 2 mensen nodig om het mortier te bedienen, de huidige 120mm mortieren hebben 5 mensen nodig om bediend te worden. Ik vind de Spear 120mm Mobile Mortar System  heel makkelijk te transporten dit in tegenstelling tot de PHZ2000's die in Uruzgān  aktief waren. daarnaast zijn de transportkosten en de kosten voor het gebruik een stuk lager. Tuurlijk  is luchtsteun door Apaches belangrijk maar zware wapens op de grond heb je ook nodig mocht het niet mogelijk zijn om luchtsteun vanwege het slechte weer te geven, dan heb je als alternatief zware wapens.

Ok. Het KCT gaat daar long ranges patrouilles uitvoeren, hoe denk je deze te gaan ondersteunen met het relatief korte bereik van dit systeem?

Ace1

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Citaat van: Nikehercules op 23/06/2014 | 21:35 uur
Dit blijkt uit..?

De Spear 120mm Mobile Mortar System is snel inzetbaar en je hebt maar 2 mensen nodig om het mortier te bedienen, de huidige 120mm mortieren hebben 5 mensen nodig om bediend te worden. Ik vind de Spear 120mm Mobile Mortar System  heel makkelijk te transporten dit in tegenstelling tot de PHZ2000's die in Uruzgān  aktief waren. daarnaast zijn de transportkosten en de kosten voor het gebruik een stuk lager. Tuurlijk  is luchtsteun door Apaches belangrijk maar zware wapens op de grond heb je ook nodig mocht het niet mogelijk zijn om luchtsteun vanwege het slechte weer te geven, dan heb je als alternatief zware wapens.

Nikehercules

Citaat van: Ace1 op 22/06/2014 | 22:22 uur
Dit is wat men nodig heeft bij Defensie voor een missie als Mali.

Dit blijkt uit..?

StrataNL

Citaat van: Ace1 op 23/06/2014 | 16:54 uur
Hoeveel 120mm mortieren heeft men bij Defensie?

18 stuks 120mm HB Rayé, eerst 6 bij de mariniers en 12 luchtmobiel, nu samengevoegd bij het VustCo met de 18 PzH2000 (van die laatste + 7 opleidingsdoeleinden en de rest in verkoop..)

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-Strata-
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Ace1

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Hoeveel 120mm mortieren heeft men bij Defensie?

Ace1

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Dit is wat men nodig heeft bij Defensie voor een missie als Mali.

Ace1


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Elbit Systems to present latest autonomous SOLTAM SPEAR Recoil Mortar System for 4x4 vehicle.

Elbit Systems will showcase its latest autonomous Recoil Mortar System (RMS) for lightweight 4x4 combat vehicles at the 3rd International Fire Conference, held May 10-22, 2014, at "Home of the Gunners" in Zikron Ya'akov, Israel.


Soltam SPEAR autonomous Recoil Mortar System (RMS) for lightweight 4x4 combat vehicle

Introducing a revolutionary technology, the advanced 2nd generation RMS reduces 120mm gun barrel firing recoil loads from 30 to less than 10 tons, enabling adaptability with previously non-installable Light Combat Vehicles (LCVs), such as (Humvees), jeeps and more. This capability significantly improves the maneuverability and operational performance of infantry forces, as it delivers immediate indirect artillery support for effectively engaging a wide range of targets.

SOLTAM SPEAR's lightweight, modular design enables high-speed, all-terrain vehicle mobility, as well as helicopter and cargo aircraft transportability - allowing rapid deployment in both close range and Special Forces counterinsurgency operations.

SOLTAM SPEAR is equipped with cutting-edge fire control, navigation, automatic aiming and propulsion systems, which facilitate a fully-autonomous operation and provide increased fire power and accuracy (within 30 meters of the Circular Error Probability (CEP) radius. In addition, the RMS'' advanced target data collection and identification capabilities enhance situational awareness and increase crew survivability. SOLTAM SPEAR is offered both independently as a standalone installation or as an integral part of a larger artillery unit or formation. It is compatible with all types of 120mm smooth bore mortar systems and munitions.



Yehuda (Udi) Vered, General Manager of Elbit Systems Land and C4I, noted: Elbit Systems is a world leader in the field of mortar systems, and the CARDOM mortar is already in use by the IDF and other leading armed forces around the world.

The SPEAR provides our customers with a broader range of capabilities and further establishes our leading position in this field. SPEAR addresses the operational demand for agile, accurate and precise mobile fire power, which enables operation deep within combat zones and the deployment of Special Forces. The full integration of SPEAR into Elbit Systems' C4I systems allows rapid closure of sensor-to-shooter loops and enhanced operational effectiveness for ground forces".

http://www.armyrecognition.com/may_2014_global_defense_security_news_uk/elbit_systems_to_present_latest_autonomous_soltam_spear_recoil_mortar_system_for_4x4_vehicle_1905141.html

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:Elbit Systems - Spear 120mm Mobile Mortar System

Elbit Systems Mortar System SPEAR Makes its First Appearance:SOLTAM SPEAR Mobile, Fully Autonomous Soft Recoil Mortar System Will be Presented at the International Fire Conference in Israel

The new patent-pending 120mm light vehicle-mounted Recoil Mortar System provides ground forces with improved mobility, lethality and accuracy across a wide range of operational scenarios

Haifa, Israel, 19 May, 2014 Elbit Systems will showcase its latest autonomous Recoil Mortar System (RMS) for lightweight 4x4 combat vehicles at the 3rd International Fire Conference, held May 10-22, 2014, at Home of the Gunners in Zikron Yaakov, Israel.

Introducing a revolutionary technology, the advanced 2nd generation RMS reduces 120mm gun barrel firing recoil loads from 30 to less than 10 tons, enabling adaptability with previously non-installable Light Combat Vehicles (LCVs), such as (Humvees), jeeps and more. This capability significantly improves the maneuverability and operational performance of infantry forces, as it delivers immediate indirect artillery support for effectively engaging a wide range of targets.

SOLTAM SPEAR's lightweight, modular design enables high-speed, all-terrain vehicle mobility, as well as helicopter and cargo aircraft transportability - allowing rapid deployment in both close range and Special Forces counterinsurgency operations. SOLTAM SPEAR is equipped with cutting-edge fire control, navigation, automatic aiming and propulsion systems, which facilitate a fully-autonomous operation and provide increased fire power and accuracy (within 30 meters of the Circular Error Probability (CEP) radius. In addition, the RMS advanced target data collection and identification capabilities enhance situational awareness and increase crew survivability. SOLTAM SPEAR is offered both independently as a standalone installation or as an integral part of a larger artillery unit or formation. It is compatible with all types of 120mm smooth bore mortar systems and munitions.

Yehuda (Udi) Vered, General Manager of Elbit Systems Land and C4I, noted: Elbit Systems is a world leader in the field of mortar systems, and the CARDOM mortar is already in use by the IDF and other leading armed forces around the world. The SPEAR provides our customers with a broader range of capabilities and further establishes our leading position in this field. SPEAR addresses the operational demand for agile, accurate and precise mobile fire power, which enables operation deep within combat zones and the deployment of Special Forces. The full integration of SPEAR into Elbit Systems C4I systems allows rapid closure of sensor-to-shooter loops and enhanced operational effectiveness for ground forces.

http://www.janes.com/article/38027/elbit-systems-mortar-system-spear-makes-its-first-appearance-soltam-spear-mobile-fully-autonomous-soft-recoil-mortar-system-will-be-presented-at-the-international-fire-conference-in-israel