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Army Gets 120mm 'Nemo' Mortar Turret Toting Armed Vehicle Prototype

An armored vehicle with the Finnish NEMO mortar turret is a major capability boost over anything in the Army's inventory today.

he U.S. Army now has a prototype of a variant of its tracked Armored Multi-Purpose Vehicle with an armored turret armed with a 120mm rapid-firing mortar. The combination offers additional protection and much greater flexibility over mortar carrier vehicles now in Army service, and is a general capability it has been interested in acquiring for years now.

BAE Systems announced yesterday that it had delivered the new mortar turret-equipped Armored Multi-Purpose Vehicle (AMPV) prototype to the Army for further evaluation. BAE Systems is the manufacturer of the AMPV. Patria in Finland, in cooperation with Norway's Kongsberg, supplied the NEMO turreted mortar. NEMO, a contraction of "NEw MOrtar," was developed in the late 2000s.

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https://www.twz.com/land/army-gets-120mm-mortar-turret-toting-armored-vehicle-prototype

Huzaar1

Citaat van: Ace1 op 07/03/2024 | 17:25 uurNu weet ik het weer, dat heeft hier ook op defensieforum gestaan, ik was dit gewoon vergeten.

Wordt een mooie toevoeging als werkpaard van iig het Luchtverdedigingscommando.
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion" US secmindef - Jed Babbin"

Ace1


Parera

Citaat van: Ace1 op 07/03/2024 | 16:51 uurWat is G5?

Wat Harald zegt. Eigenlijk is het ern relatief goedkope vervanger van de M113/YPR van duitse origine.


Ace1

Citaat van: Parera op 07/03/2024 | 16:30 uurSimpel maar effectief, ik gok dat CV90 het wel weer onnodig duur maakt. Gelukkig hebben we de low cost G5 nog. Op zich ben ik wel voorstander van het uitbreiden van de G5 in aantallen en dan voornamelijk voor dit soort ondersteunende functies.

Wat is G5?

Parera

Citaat van: Kornet43 op 07/03/2024 | 16:05 uurPrecies wat we moeten hebben, Nemo op tracks. Een Boxer op tracks of een CV90.

Simpel maar effectief, ik gok dat CV90 het wel weer onnodig duur maakt. Gelukkig hebben we de low cost G5 nog. Op zich ben ik wel voorstander van het uitbreiden van de G5 in aantallen en dan voornamelijk voor dit soort ondersteunende functies.

Kornet43

Citaat van: Harald op 07/03/2024 | 14:04 uurBAE Systems Delivers Revolutionary AMPV NEMO 120mm Self-Propelled Mortar Carrier Prototype to US Army
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_march_2024_global_security_army_industry/bae_systems_delivers_revolutionary_ampv_nemo_120mm_self-propelled_mortar_carrier_prototype_to_us_army.html

In landmark advancement for armored mortar-carrier combat vehicles, BAE Systems has proudly announced the delivery of its innovative Armored Multi-Purpose Vehicle (AMPV) Turreted Mortar prototype to the U.S. Army, setting a new standard in combat vehicle technology and adaptability. This cutting-edge prototype features the groundbreaking External Mission Equipment Package (ExMEP), designed for the rapid installation of various turrets, and boasts the state-of-the-art Patria NEMO remote-controlled 120mm turreted mortar system. This delivery marks the debut of the world's first fully automated mortar system mounted on a tracked armored vehicle, heralding a new era of military firepower and versatility.


BAE Systems delivers to the U.S. Army a new prototype of AMVP self-propelled mortar carrier equipped with the NEMO, a 120mm fully-automated mortar system.

The delivery results from a dynamic technology investment collaboration among the U.S. Army, BAE Systems, and KONGSBERG/Patria. This effort showcases the potential for variant expansion within the versatile AMPV family. By leveraging a proven and fully qualified platform like the AMPV chassis, the Army gains access to deploy essential combat capabilities, such as the Patria NEMO system, to the battlefield more swiftly, efficiently, and cost-effectively.

"Transferring this exceptional capability to the Army for further evaluation represents a pivotal moment in broadening the operational flexibilities available to our soldiers, ensuring they retain tactical superiority across various combat scenarios," stated Bill Sheehy, AMPV Program Director at BAE Systems. "The genesis of the AMPV Turreted Mortar prototype can be traced back to discussions with the Army in 2022, the same year the ExMEP was conceived alongside our industry partners. We eagerly anticipate its performance assessment. The initiative and forward-thinking approach to its development underscore our commitment to enhancing the warfighter's effectiveness, which remains the core mission of the AMPV program."

The AMPV Turreted Mortar prototype, leveraging the ExMEP for rapid integration of the NEMO 120mm mortar system, serves as a versatile indirect and direct fire support platform suitable for various mission profiles. This innovative system enables the execution of Multiple Rounds Simultaneous Impact (MRSI) fire missions, where up to five mortar rounds can strike targets concurrently in less than four seconds, whether the vehicle is stationary or mobile.

The Armored Multi-Purpose Vehicle (AMPV) for the U.S. Army represents a significant leap forward in battlefield mobility, versatility, and protection. Designed to replace the aging M113 family of vehicles, the AMPV is a family of next-generation, highly adaptable tracked armored vehicles tailored to meet a wide range of mission needs across the combat team. This platform offers enhanced survivability features against mines, improvised explosive devices (IEDs), and direct fire. It supports various roles, including medical evacuation, command and control, and mortar carrier operations, among others.



The Patria NEMO 120mm mortar system is a highly advanced, remote-controlled, turreted mortar system designed for both direct and indirect fire support. As the world's only turreted mortar system that can be mounted on land platforms, naval vessels, and stationary positions, NEMO offers exceptional versatility and firepower. Capable of firing up to 10 rounds per minute, its high rate of fire and Multiple Rounds Simultaneous Impact (MRSI) capability enable it to launch several rounds that can hit the same target simultaneously, maximizing the effect on the target while minimizing the time the platform is exposed to enemy fire. The system's automation allows for rapid aiming, shooting, and laying, significantly enhancing operational efficiency and crew safety. The NEMO system can use a wide range of ammunition types, offering solutions for various tactical requirements, including smoke, illumination, and precision-guided munitions, making it a pivotal asset for modern military forces seeking flexible and powerful fire support capabilities.

The Patria NEMO 120mm mortar system stands out for its impressive maximum firing range and swift deployment capabilities. It can engage targets up to 10 kilometers away with conventional ammunition, and this range can extend further when using rocket-assisted projectiles, enhancing its operational flexibility and effectiveness in various combat scenarios. The system's design emphasizes rapid deployment and mobility, allowing for a transition from traveling mode to firing mode in mere minutes. This rapid deployment capability ensures that forces can quickly respond to threats and take advantage of tactical opportunities as they arise. The combination of its extended range and quick setup and stow times makes the NEMO system an invaluable tool for providing immediate, high-impact fire support across a wide area of operations, ensuring superiority in firepower and contributing significantly to the success of military engagements.

Compared to the existing AMPV Mortar Carrier variant, which incorporates the traditional 120mm mortar system, this new prototype signifies a monumental leap in capability, offering enhanced operational flexibility and force protection while ensuring soldiers remain shielded by the vehicle's armor.

In the coming months, the AMPV Turreted Mortar prototype will undergo exhaustive field evaluations by the Army to validate its performance against the rigorous demands of modern warfare.

This announcement comes on the heels of BAE Systems unveiling a second turreted AMPV prototype featuring Counter-Unmanned Aircraft System (C-UAS) capabilities via the ExMEP top plate in the past three months. As warfare continues to evolve, the AMPV platform's tailored framework highlights the endless possibilities for seamless capability enhancements to support the Army's Armored Brigade Combat Team's operational needs.

Precies wat we moeten hebben, Nemo op tracks. Een Boxer op tracks of een CV90.

Harald

BAE Systems Delivers Revolutionary AMPV NEMO 120mm Self-Propelled Mortar Carrier Prototype to US Army
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_march_2024_global_security_army_industry/bae_systems_delivers_revolutionary_ampv_nemo_120mm_self-propelled_mortar_carrier_prototype_to_us_army.html

In landmark advancement for armored mortar-carrier combat vehicles, BAE Systems has proudly announced the delivery of its innovative Armored Multi-Purpose Vehicle (AMPV) Turreted Mortar prototype to the U.S. Army, setting a new standard in combat vehicle technology and adaptability. This cutting-edge prototype features the groundbreaking External Mission Equipment Package (ExMEP), designed for the rapid installation of various turrets, and boasts the state-of-the-art Patria NEMO remote-controlled 120mm turreted mortar system. This delivery marks the debut of the world's first fully automated mortar system mounted on a tracked armored vehicle, heralding a new era of military firepower and versatility.


BAE Systems delivers to the U.S. Army a new prototype of AMVP self-propelled mortar carrier equipped with the NEMO, a 120mm fully-automated mortar system.

The delivery results from a dynamic technology investment collaboration among the U.S. Army, BAE Systems, and KONGSBERG/Patria. This effort showcases the potential for variant expansion within the versatile AMPV family. By leveraging a proven and fully qualified platform like the AMPV chassis, the Army gains access to deploy essential combat capabilities, such as the Patria NEMO system, to the battlefield more swiftly, efficiently, and cost-effectively.

"Transferring this exceptional capability to the Army for further evaluation represents a pivotal moment in broadening the operational flexibilities available to our soldiers, ensuring they retain tactical superiority across various combat scenarios," stated Bill Sheehy, AMPV Program Director at BAE Systems. "The genesis of the AMPV Turreted Mortar prototype can be traced back to discussions with the Army in 2022, the same year the ExMEP was conceived alongside our industry partners. We eagerly anticipate its performance assessment. The initiative and forward-thinking approach to its development underscore our commitment to enhancing the warfighter's effectiveness, which remains the core mission of the AMPV program."

The AMPV Turreted Mortar prototype, leveraging the ExMEP for rapid integration of the NEMO 120mm mortar system, serves as a versatile indirect and direct fire support platform suitable for various mission profiles. This innovative system enables the execution of Multiple Rounds Simultaneous Impact (MRSI) fire missions, where up to five mortar rounds can strike targets concurrently in less than four seconds, whether the vehicle is stationary or mobile.

The Armored Multi-Purpose Vehicle (AMPV) for the U.S. Army represents a significant leap forward in battlefield mobility, versatility, and protection. Designed to replace the aging M113 family of vehicles, the AMPV is a family of next-generation, highly adaptable tracked armored vehicles tailored to meet a wide range of mission needs across the combat team. This platform offers enhanced survivability features against mines, improvised explosive devices (IEDs), and direct fire. It supports various roles, including medical evacuation, command and control, and mortar carrier operations, among others.



The Patria NEMO 120mm mortar system is a highly advanced, remote-controlled, turreted mortar system designed for both direct and indirect fire support. As the world's only turreted mortar system that can be mounted on land platforms, naval vessels, and stationary positions, NEMO offers exceptional versatility and firepower. Capable of firing up to 10 rounds per minute, its high rate of fire and Multiple Rounds Simultaneous Impact (MRSI) capability enable it to launch several rounds that can hit the same target simultaneously, maximizing the effect on the target while minimizing the time the platform is exposed to enemy fire. The system's automation allows for rapid aiming, shooting, and laying, significantly enhancing operational efficiency and crew safety. The NEMO system can use a wide range of ammunition types, offering solutions for various tactical requirements, including smoke, illumination, and precision-guided munitions, making it a pivotal asset for modern military forces seeking flexible and powerful fire support capabilities.

The Patria NEMO 120mm mortar system stands out for its impressive maximum firing range and swift deployment capabilities. It can engage targets up to 10 kilometers away with conventional ammunition, and this range can extend further when using rocket-assisted projectiles, enhancing its operational flexibility and effectiveness in various combat scenarios. The system's design emphasizes rapid deployment and mobility, allowing for a transition from traveling mode to firing mode in mere minutes. This rapid deployment capability ensures that forces can quickly respond to threats and take advantage of tactical opportunities as they arise. The combination of its extended range and quick setup and stow times makes the NEMO system an invaluable tool for providing immediate, high-impact fire support across a wide area of operations, ensuring superiority in firepower and contributing significantly to the success of military engagements.

Compared to the existing AMPV Mortar Carrier variant, which incorporates the traditional 120mm mortar system, this new prototype signifies a monumental leap in capability, offering enhanced operational flexibility and force protection while ensuring soldiers remain shielded by the vehicle's armor.

In the coming months, the AMPV Turreted Mortar prototype will undergo exhaustive field evaluations by the Army to validate its performance against the rigorous demands of modern warfare.

This announcement comes on the heels of BAE Systems unveiling a second turreted AMPV prototype featuring Counter-Unmanned Aircraft System (C-UAS) capabilities via the ExMEP top plate in the past three months. As warfare continues to evolve, the AMPV platform's tailored framework highlights the endless possibilities for seamless capability enhancements to support the Army's Armored Brigade Combat Team's operational needs.

Harald

Iron Sting: An exclusive look inside Israeli's new precision mortar

During a visit to a military base in central Israel, Breaking Defense received a rare look at the 120mm mortar up-close, alongside Lt. Col. Liron Cohen, an IDF officer who helped develop it through the Ministry of Defense's Directorate of Defense Research and Development.



Four months into Israel's war against Hamas in Gaza, a number of new technologies and platforms have been used by the Israel Defense Forces. Among them is the Iron Sting precision mortar, first unveiled in 2021 but not used in combat until recently.

During a visit to a military base in central Israel, Breaking Defense received a rare look at the 120mm mortar up-close, alongside Lt. Col. Liron Cohen, an IDF officer who helped develop it through the Ministry of Defense's Directorate of Defense Research and Development.

Cohen is the head of the munitions branch in the technology division of the Technology and Logistics Directorate, which puts him in charge of "almost all ground munitions," and was part of the development of the Iron Sting from the beginning. It was co-developed with the DDR&D and Elbit Systems. "It's our job to make the technical specification and translate them to operational requirements and then run the project until it's ready for operational evaluation," Cohen said.

"This is one of a kind in the world," Cohen said about the weapon, which the IDF says has the level of precision usually reserved for air-launched missiles – but built into the kind of mortar that every soldier can learn how to operate. That means it can be used against specific targets in the kind of complex environments the IDF is facing in Gaza, potentially forgoing the need to call in an air strike.

Operationally, the Iron String replaces the concept of mortars as a statistical weapon, where you fire a number of them near a target and hope to neutralize it, and instead turns it into a precision-guided weapon — but one that is cheaper to equip and deploy than air-launched effects.

The launcher can be mounted on a vehicle such as an M113 and a Humvee. The version seen by Breaking Defense was on a Humvee and had an intuitive and user friendly interface, with a joystick that lowers the mortar barrel so forces can quickly deploy it. The mortar is plugged into a computer on a Humvee, where the mortar's internal system receives the data it needs for its mission. Once launched it powers up, expands guidance fins, and uses GPS and its laser seeker to fly towards it target.

The operator can also choose to have the round explode with a proximity sensor, meaning in the air just above a target, or to penetrate a target and then explode. The latter tactic be useful to penetrate a building and strike a specific room. "It can penetrate through the ceiling or wall," Cohen said.

Cohen noted that the mortar has a failsafe: if the computer analyzes its trajectory and it is not going to hit the target, the munition is neutralized and lands as a dud. And while a dud mortar can still harm people — no one would enjoy a 16kg weight, slightly heavier than a normal 120mm round, lobbed at high speeds hitting them  — the weapon won't explode, limiting accidental damage to people and property.


https://breakingdefense.com/2024/02/iron-sting-an-exclusive-look-inside-israelis-new-precision-mortar/


Harald

French MoD orders 109 Nexter CAESAR 6×6 MkII SPHs



The French Ministry of Defence (MoD) has ordered 109 Nexter CAESAR 6×6 MkII self-propelled howitzers (SPHs), the company announced on 2 February 2024.

The CAESAR 6×6 MkII is a new version of the wheeled SPH that is currently under development. The order, the contract price of which was not disclosed, was planned under France's 2024-2030 defence programming law. The new systems will first replace the French Army's tracked AMX-30 AuF1 SPHs at the end of their operational service and gradually phase out the army's CAESAR 6×6 MkI SPHs.

"The French artillery will thus have an unprecedented capability since the introduction of the CAESAR 6×6 system in 2008," KNDS, Nexter's parent company, stated in a press release.

The order also includes support for the CAESAR MkII during the system's first two years of use.

The development of the CAESAR MkII was launched in December 2021.

The main improvements of the CAESAR MkII, which uses the same 155 mm 52-calibre gun as its predecessor, relate to the system's protection, mobility and communication capabilities. The new system features a cabin with enhanced protection against mines and ballistic projectiles to resist improvised explosive devices (IEDs) and small-calibre ammunition. This requirement was defined during France's recent operations in Afghanistan and Africa's Sahel region.

The mobility of the CAESAR MkII, meanwhile, is improved with a new engine (460 HP compared to the previous 215 HP), a new automatic gearbox, and a new chassis provided by Arquus.

The CAESAR MkII is additionally equipped with state-of-the-art fire control software, with its cabin prepared to integrate the future generation of French NCT-t radio systems.

https://euro-sd.com/2024/02/major-news/36313/france-orders-caesar-6x6-mkii/

Huzaar1

Citaat van: Parera op 22/01/2024 | 18:32 uurWij hadden met onze YPR's volgens mijn gewoon getrokken 120 mm stukken, de meeste landen die de M113 gebruikte hadden wel dit zelfde concept. Al staat er wel een Nederlandse M106 in het NMM.


Maar prachtig dat verleden, ik hoop dat er op korte termijn ook door NL een SPM model gekocht gaat worden.

Hadden we ook, zeg ik toch ook niet  :angel: .

Maar NLD had de M106 ook in de bewapening heur.
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion" US secmindef - Jed Babbin"

Harald

Citaat van: Huzaar1 op 22/01/2024 | 18:11 uurEh..dit is sinds jaar en dag heel normaal hoor. Dit zat vroeger bij ons ook gewoon in de bewapening. Enorm flexibel, snel en goedkoop. Elk land had wel zoiets.

M106 bijvoorbeeld. En de M125

De meerwaarde van 120mm mortier zo snap ik wel en voor NL zou zoiets ook prima kunnen op basis van Boxer of G5.

Maar waar mij het omging, gaat is de ruimte rondom de 120mm en kan die 120mm ook vuren in alle richtingen en is er dan ook genoeg ruimte om in welke richting dan  ook de granaten in de loop te laten vallen? Of wordt er 99% altijd naar achteren gevuurd ?

Parera

#204
Citaat van: Huzaar1 op 22/01/2024 | 18:11 uurEh..dit is sinds jaar en dag heel normaal hoor. Dit zat vroeger bij ons ook gewoon in de bewapening. Enorm flexibel, snel en goedkoop. Elk land had wel zoiets.

M106 bijvoorbeeld. En de M125

Wij hadden met onze YPR's volgens mijn gewoon getrokken 120 mm stukken, de meeste landen die de M113 gebruikte hadden wel dit zelfde concept. Al staat er wel een Nederlandse M106 in het NMM.


Maar prachtig dat verleden, ik hoop dat er op korte termijn ook door NL een SPM model gekocht gaat worden.

Huzaar1

#203
Citaat van: Harald op 22/01/2024 | 17:08 uurUS Army Demonstrates Power of New AMPV M1287 Mortar Carrier in Live Fire Exercise
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_january_2024_global_security_army_industry/us_army_demonstrates_power_of_new_ampv_m1287_mortar_carrier_in_live_fire_exercise.html



 :hrmph:  :omg: ga je dit zo ook onder oorlogsomstandigheden zo doen ?
en nu is de loop naar achteren gericht, dus meer ruimte, maar als deze een kwartslag moet draaien.  Is er dan wel genoeg ruimte om "veilig" de mortiergranaat in de loop te laten vallen ? of zie ik dat verkeerd ?
of moet je dan het voertuig eerst laten draaien ?


Eh..dit is sinds jaar en dag heel normaal hoor. Dit zat vroeger bij ons ook gewoon in de bewapening. Enorm flexibel, snel en goedkoop. Elk land had wel zoiets.

M106 bijvoorbeeld. En de M125
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion" US secmindef - Jed Babbin"