United Kingdom could procure Japan's Kawasaki P-1 Maritime Patrol Aircraft

Gestart door jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter), 07/01/2015 | 19:15 uur

jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter)

Citaat van: Ace1 op 08/01/2015 | 19:32 uur
ik begrijp alleen niet dat de Royal Airforce niet voor de Sea Hecules is gegaan? Gezien het feit dat de Royal Airforce ook de C-130 J heeft.

Allereerst zal besloten moeten worden of men deze capaciteit, wegens voortschrijdend inzicht, wil her-invoeren, dit staat o.a. op de agenda van de Strategic Defence and Security Review (SDSR) in 2015.

Dus om nu de Sea Herc al als verloren voor de UK te beschouwen is voorbarig.


Zander

De Britten kennende zitten er meer voordelen aan de aanschaf van de P1 tov de P8.
People are sheep

Ace1

ik begrijp alleen niet dat de Royal Airforce niet voor de Sea Hecules is gegaan? Gezien het feit dat de Royal Airforce ook de C-130 J heeft.

Zander

People are sheep


Harald

Exclusive: Japan seeks to sell sub-hunting jet to UK as Abe pushes arms exports


(Reuters) - Japan is asking Britain to buy its P-1 submarine-hunting jet in a deal that could top $1 billion, a major step in Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's push to arms exports after decades of self-imposed restrictions, people with knowledge of the proposal said.

Britain has not formally decided it will buy new maritime patrol planes, having canceled an order for nine built by BAE Systems in 2010 due to delays and cost over-runs, and the P-1, made by Kawasaki Heavy Industries, would face stiff competition from Boeing's P-8 Poseidon, the three sources told Reuters.

Japanese officials raised the issue of London buying the P-1 to replace the British-made Hawker Siddeley Nimrod, which was retired in 2011, when they met their UK counterparts to discuss defense-equipment cooperation at the Farnborough Air Show near London in July, the sources said.

After Abe eased curbs on military exports in April, his Defense Ministry has been looking to tap foreign markets for its cocooned weapons makers, including potential deals to sell subs to Australia and seaplanes to India. A P-1 sale to Britain would be Japan's first major military deal outside the Asia-Pacific region.

Abe wants Japan's defense suppliers to move into the global arms market through tie-ups that will help bring down procurement costs and strengthen the nation's military to counter China's growing military might.

Even if Britain doesn't buy, the P-1 could benefit from being treated as a genuine contender.

"If the UK gives it serious consideration, then the P-1 will garner attention internationally," one Japanese source said.

"It has potential customers beyond the UK, like New Zealand, Norway and Canada, with large maritime areas," said UK consultant Simon Chelton, a former BAE Systems Plc executive and defense attache at the British Embassy in Tokyo.

"We are considering a number of options in regard to defense equipment sales, but we don't comment on specific deals," said Japanese Defense Ministry's spokesman Hirofumi Takeda.

"We are not aware of the discussion so we can't comment," said Teppei Kobayashi, a spokesman for Kawasaki Heavy. "In general it is a matter of national policy, so if there is a decision that results in an order, we will follow that."

Britain's Ministry of Defence said it provided maritime surveillance using a combination of ships, submarines and aircraft, and coordinated closely with allies.

"We will continue to assess future requirements ahead of a decision in the next Strategic Defence and Security Review in 2015," an MOD spokesperson said.


STRATEGIC DIALOGUE

Senior Japanese and UK officials will have a chance to discuss the idea on Monday at a strategic dialogue in London organized by independent British and Japanese think-tanks.

The P-1, designed to patrol Japan's territorial waters from the Pacific to the East China Sea, where Beijing claims small islands held by Tokyo, will be the country's principal sub hunter for decades to come.

Japan's navy plans to buy around 20, costing about 20 billion yen ($170 million) each, over the next five years, though cracks in the fuselage and wing and engine problems have delayed its entry into service.

No announcement from Britain of any replacement for the Nimrod, which tracked Soviet undersea activity during the Cold War, is expected before May's general election.

Its least risky option could be the Boeing P-8, already built and operated by the United States, the closest ally to both Britain and Japan, the sources said. Deployed by the U.S. Navy last year, the first squadron armed with torpedoes and anti-ship missiles operates from Okinawa in southwestern Japan near China.

Boeing officials in Tokyo were unavailable for comment.

In its most recent order in February, the U.S. Navy said it would buy 16 additional P-8s at a cost of $150 million each.

If Japan can offer a P-1 variant tailored for the British military that is competitive on price and capability, it could represent a viable alternative.

Jointly building a P-1 that taps into Britain's experience building the Nimrod would allow London to retain rights over radar and sensing technology it would lose by buying a U.S. aircraft regulated by the Pentagon, one source said.

Last year Japan and Britain agreed on a deal that will see Mitsubishi Electric Corp partner with European missile maker MBDA to develop a medium-range air-to-air missile for the F-35 stealth fighter, which both countries plan to deploy.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/07/us-japan-uk-arms-exclusive-idUSKBN0KG0WG20150107



Harald

Met het pooling and sharing gedachte in het achterhoofd. Samen optrekken met de UK voor nieuw MPA. P-1 is goedkoper, sneller heeft een grotere range dan de P-8.
P-1 zou 200 miljoen usd 2014 kosten.

Weet niet of P-1 ook voor intell te gebruiken is. Heeft wel een aesa radar met 360 graden view bereik.

Kaaskop2

Laten wij er dan maar ook gelijk een aantal van aanschaffen :-)

Japan lijkt overigens wel te realiseren dat het zijn van een eilandstaat extra risico's met zich meebrengt. Ze hebben 's werelds grootste mijnbestrijdingsdienst en een zeer groot aantal schepen en vliegtuigen gewijd aan onderzeebootbestrijding.

jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter)

United Kingdom could procure Japan's Kawasaki P-1 Maritime Patrol Aircraft

Wednesday, 07 January 2015

The Japanese government, lead by Prime Minister Abe, have been pushing for increased export of made in Japan defense systems for the past year. Reuters is reporting that United Kingdom is being offered the Japan's Maritime Self-Defense Force (JMSDF) Kawasaki P-1 Maritime Patrol Aircraft (MPA).

The United States have also been pitching the Boeing P-8 Poseidon and the Lockheed Martin SC-130J Sea Hercules MPAs.

The Nimrod MRA4 programme was cancelled in 2010 as a result of the Strategic Defence and Security Review
and British forces are left no direct MPA replacement since. In November 2014 a submarine was detected off the coast of Scotland and Britain requested MPAs from France, Canada and the US to conduct patrols, in conjunction with Royal Navy surface warships.

The P-1s, designed by Kawasaki Heavy Industries Ltd. in cooperation with the Japanese Defense Ministry, will replace over 80 aging P-3 Orion MPAs used by the JMSDF. The new planes should start being deployed on patrol duties this year following  two years of flight testing. The P-1 development started in 2001 and planed to finish in March 2012. The process was delayed for one year due to cracks found in its wings and bodies.

During the official delivery ceremony held in 2013, an official declared that the JMSDF expressed a need fo a total of 70 P-1s.

The Japanese government, lead by Prime Minister Abe, have been pushing for increased export of made in Japan defense systems for the past year. Reuters is reporting that United Kingdom is being offered the Japan's Maritime Self-Defense Force (JMSDF) Kawasaki P-1 Maritime Patrol Aircraft (MPA).
     
As the successor to the P-3C, the P-1 is used for prolonged, extensive patrols in the sea areas surrounding Japan. The P-1 is a totally new aircraft that was developed and manufactured domestically, including the airframe, the engines and the patrol systems. According to the JMSDF, with its latest technologies, the P-1 flies faster and has a greater range and useful load than the P-3C, enabling it to patrol the extensive sea areas surrounding Japan for many hours.

It is the first aircraft in the world fitted with fiber-optics flight controls. Their main strength is that they reduce the risk of electromagnetic interference. ASW (anti-submarine warfare) is assisted by an artificial intelligence. The P-1 is fitted with a Toshiba HPS-106 AESA radar with 360 degree coverage,a magnetic anomaly detector (MAD) at the back, and Infrared/Light detection systems.

It has a bomb bay and 8 hardpoints, allowing it to take nearly 9 tons of payloads, including nearly 100 sonobuoys. Its crew consists of a pilot, a co-pilot and 11 operators.

Zie link voor de foto's

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2314