Het Combat Support Ship (CSS)

[Ace1]

New Navy tanker to cost $493 million


The new vessel will be built by South Korean company Hyundai Heavy Industries

By Claire Trevett

The Government is to buy a $493 million naval tanker which will be custom-made for use in the Antarctic.

Defence Minister Gerry Brownlee said the tanker will replace the 30-year-old HMNZS Endeavour which is used to refuel naval vessels and helicopters at sea and to supply fuel and fresh water.

The new vessel will be built by South Korean company Hyundai Heavy Industries and was expected for delivery in 2020. It will be ice-strengthened and adapted to cope with extreme winter conditions so it could deliver fuel and supplies to Scott Base and McMurdo Station during the summer months - something HMNZS Endeavour could not do.


An indicative image of the new Navy tanker that will replace the 30-year-old HMNZS Endeavour.

"It is important that New Zealand has a significant asset capable of supporting our presence in the Antarctic and our interests in the Southern Ocean more generally," Brownlee said.

He said the investment would help show New Zealand's long-term commitment to its joint work in the Antarctic with the United States. The recent White Paper on Defence put a greater emphasis on the Southern Ocean and Antarctic than in the past.

The replacement tanker will be much larger than HMNZS Endeavour, which is due to retire in 2018. It will be able to refuel two ships at once, carry and refuel helicopters, produce and store fresh water and transport bulk goods.

Labour's Defence spokesman Phil Goff said the price tag of almost $500 million was the same as for all seven vessels purchased in the early 2000s under Project Protector, for a single multi-role HMNZS Canterbury, two offshore patrol vessels, and four inshore patrol vessels


An indicative image of the new Navy tanker

However, he said HMNZS Endeavour was due for replacement. "Is the tanker required? Absolutely. It's been on the books for some time and the naval fleet requires it."

He was not concerned it would be made overseas.

"I don't know if there were New Zealand tenderers for it, but the prospects of building a ship that size in New Zealand -- I don't think the New Zealand industry would have the structure and the competitiveness to do it here."

He said some components of the Project Protector builds were done in New Zealand but it was important to get the best value for money.

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11676697

[Harald]

Toch liever de 19000 met zijn 20 knopen, Ro-Ro en davits.

[Ace1]

Specificaties  Logistic Support Vessel Replenisher 20000

GENERAL

Yard Reference: FP4235
Basic Functions: Replenishment at Sea (RAS) with solids and liquids. Helicopter operations including HIFR and VERTREP operations, Role 1 Medical Support.
Secondary tasks: Naval presence, Support to other units of the armed forces and government agencies.
Classification: Lloyds Register of Shipping

DIMENSIONS
Length o.a. 187.4 m
Length p.p. 173.0 m
Beam 25.0 m
Draught(max) 7.60 m
Depth 14.70 m
Displacement 20300 tonnes

PERFORMANCE
Maximum Sustained speed 18 knots
Range at 16 knots 6000nm
Endurance 20 days

PROPULSION SYSTEM
Propulsion system Diesel-Hybrid (Diesel direct + PTI/PTO)
Propulsion engines Diesel engines + Electrical motor
Propulsion power 14.000 kW
Propellers 2 x CPP
Bow thrusters 1 x 1100 kW
Stern thruster 1 x 750 kW

AUXILIARY SYSTEMS
Diesel generator 4 x 1200 kW
Emergency diesel generator 1 x 750 kW

COMPLEMENT
Crew: 70
Nonlisted 50

MEDICAL FACILITIES
Role 1 Medical facilities; Consulting Room, Ward and storage rooms.

TRANSPORT CAPACITY
Flight deck: 1 spots medium size helicopter
Hangar: 2 x medium size helicopter
Flight deck 675 m2
F76 (Cargo) 8000 tonnes
F44(Cargo) 1700 tonnes
Supply stores
Ammunition

EQUIPMENT
2 Dual Purpose Underway Replenishment Masts
Refueling Hose Reel 30 metres 2.5" dia
Deck Crane 25 tonnes
Ammunition elevator
Stores Elevator
Personel Elevator
RO units

WEAPON & SENSOR SUITE
- 4 x Remote controlled .50 machine guns (Prepared for)
- Integrated Bridge System, for safe sailing and optimal control of navigational equipment.
- Helicopter Control facilities, to safely execute helicopter control and approach procedures.
- Integrated Internal Communication System, allowing voice and data communication.
- Ergonomically lay-out of operational spaces (Bridge, Operations Room).

Bron Damen

[Ace1]

Als er 1 binnen de KM aangeschaft zou worden, dan heeft de 19000 mijn voorkeur.
Alleen het bemannings verschil tussen 16000 en 19000 is groot....

Het bemannings verschilt komt door 2 dingen de 19000 is een Roro schip en kan uitgerust worden met 2 kleine missile launchers en  daardoor heb je meer bemanningsleden nodig. Met kleine missile launchers zullen de ontwerpers de MBDA SIMBAD-RC of de Ram bedoelen.

http://www.mbda-systems.com/products/maritime-superiority/simbad-rc/47-5/

http://www.diehl.com/en/diehl-defence/products/guided-missiles/ram.html

[jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter)]

Zie liever een tweede JSS/JLOS. En dan bij instromen de Zr.Ms. Rotterdam overdoen aan België...

Ik ook, maar dat zie ik voorlopig niet gebeuren, ook niet in de periode tot 2030, een "van de plank" taker is wellicht wel haalbaar al zie ik wel mogelijkheden als we de RDAM als wisselgeld kunnen gebruiken

[Elzenga]

Zie liever een tweede JSS/JLOS. En dan bij instromen de Zr.Ms. Rotterdam overdoen aan België...

[JdL]

De LSV 19000 zou ook mijn voorkeur hebben.

De LSV19000 heeft ook mijn voorkeur
Neemt niet weg dat ik met de 16000 ook tevreden zou zijn

[jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter)]

Als er 1 binnen de KM aangeschaft zou worden, dan heeft de 19000 mijn voorkeur.

De LSV 19000 zou ook mijn voorkeur hebben.

[Lex]

Hoe groot waren de bemanningen op de Zuiderkruis en Amsterdam ?
Of kon dit per inzet verschillen?

Tussen ZKRS en ADAM alleen was er reeds een groot verschil; denk daarbij oa aan de voorststuwing.
Het aantal bemanningsleden verschilt ook per missie, wel of geen vliegende eenheid etc.

[Harald]

Als er 1 binnen de KM aangeschaft zou worden, dan heeft de 19000 mijn voorkeur.
Alleen het bemannings verschil tussen 16000 en 19000 is groot....

Hoe groot waren de bemanningen op de Zuiderkruis en Amsterdam ?
Of kon dit per inzet verschillen?

[Ace1]

Specificaties Logistic Support Vessel Supporter 19000

GENERAL

Yard reference FP4220
Basic functions Logistics and support capabilities (RAS, RO-RO, Ship-to-Shore transfer and LO-LO), Search and rescue, Humanitarian Aid and disaster relief, oil pollution preparedness and protection of trade routes.
Classification DNV Naval Support

DIMENSIONS
Length o.a. 175.20 m
Beam mld. 24.80 m
Depth no.1 deck 17.20 m
Draught 7.80 m
Displacement full load 18.800 tonnes

PERFORMANCE
Speed 20 knots sustained
Range at 16 knots 10.000 nm
Endurance 30+ days at sea

PROPULSION SYSTEM
Propulsion system Diesel-Hybrid (Diesel direct + PTI/PTO)
Propulsion engines Diesel engines + Electrical motor
Propulsion power 18.000 kW
Propellers 2 x CPP
Bow thrusters 2 x 1000 kW
Stern thruster 1 x 1000 kW

AUXILIARY SYSTEMS
Diesel generator 4 x 1600 kW
Emergency diesel generator 1 x 750 kW

COMPLEMENT
Crew 86
Enlisted/conscripts 76
Injured (hospital) 44

MEDICAL FACILITIES
The medical complex consists of: triage room, trauma room, operating room, intensive care, high and low dependency ward, dentist, consulting room etc.

TRANSPORT CAPACITY
Flight deck 1 x spots medium size helicopter, Suitable for heavy helicopter landing
Hangar 2 x medium size helicopter
Ship-to-Shore transfer Sea state 3-4
Davits 2 x LCM in davit (option)
Flight deck 675 m²
RoRo space 500 lane meters
Container cap. 40 TEU
F76 (Cargo) 4500 t
F44 (Cargo) 425 t
Ship Stores 330 m2
Cargo Stores 520 m²
Ammo Stores 260 m2

EQUIPMENT
2 x Modular Unrep Mast for Replenishment at Sea
Stern ramp 35 t
Side ramp 35 t
Cargo/Ammo elevator 25 t
Deck crane 25 t
RO unit(s)

WEAPON & SENSOR SUITE
4 x Remote controlled .50 machine guns (Prepared for) 2 x Small missile launcher (Prepared for), Surveillance radar / Electro optical fire control, Combat management system, CIC, Integrated internal & external communication system.

NAUTICAL EQUIPMENT
Extensive navigational equipment, GMDSS, echo sounder, power- and ship's management system with integrated ECDIS

Bron Damen

[Ace1]

Specificaties Logistic Support Vessel Replenisher 16000

GENERAL

Yard reference FP4220
Basic functions Basic tasks: Replenishment at Sea (RAS) with solids and liquids, Helicopter operations including HIFR and VERTREP, Role 1 medical service and prepared for Role 2.
Secondary tasks: Sovereignty and authority, Support other units of the armed forces and civilian society, Search and rescue (SAR), Humanitarian operations, Oil-spill preparedness.
Classification DNV Naval Support
DIMENSIONS
Length o.a. 165.50 m
Beam mld. 24.00 m
Depth no.1 deck 14.70 m
Draught 7.3 m
Displacement full load 15.800 tonnes

PERFORMANCE
Speed 18 knots sustained
Range at 16 knots 10.000 nm
Endurance 30+ days at sea

PROPULSION SYSTEM
Propulsion system Diesel-Hybrid (Diesel direct + PTI/PTO)
Propulsion engines Diesel engines + Electrical motor
Propulsion power 11.000 kW
Propellers 2 x CPP
Bow thrusters 1 x 1100 kW
Stern thruster 1 x 750 kW

AUXILIARY SYSTEMS
Diesel generator 4 x 1600 kW
Emergency diesel generator 1 x 750 kW

COMPLEMENT
Crew 43
Embarked forces/Special Personnel 116
Injured (hospital) 48

MEDICAL FACILITIES
The medical complex consists of: CT-room, triage room, trauma room, operating room, intensive care, high- and low dependency ward (not permanent), consulting room etc.

TRANSPORT CAPACITY
Flight deck 1 x spots medium size helicopter, Suitable for heavy helicopter landing
Hangar 2 x medium size helicopter
Flight deck 675 m²
Cargo deck or 135 lane meters
F76 (Cargo) 5100 t
F44 (Cargo) 425 t
Cargo Stores 360 m²
Ammo Stores 300 m2

EQUIPMENT
2 x Modular Unrep Mast for Replenishment at Sea
Cargo/Ammo elevator 25 t
Deck crane 22 t
RO unit(s) Side hatch

WEAPON & SENSOR SUITE
- 4 x Remote controlled .50 machine guns (Prepared for)
- Integrated Bridge System, for safe sailing and optimal control of navigational equipment.
- Helicopter Control facilities, to safely execute helicopter control and approach procedures.
- Integrated Internal and External Communication System, allowingvoice and data communication.
- Ergonomically lay-out of operational spaces (Bridge, Operations Room).

Bron Damen

[Harald]

Nieuwe ontwerpen lijken wel op de Logistic Support Vessel Supporter 19000 van Damen
http://products.damen.com/en/ranges/logistic-support-vessel/logistic-support-vessel-supporter-19000

DSME, Navantia unveil design proposals for new RAN replenishment ships

•DSME and Navantia have released further details on their respective proposals for Australia's tanker replacement programme
•The companies are competing to replace two RAN support ships

South Korean shipyard Daewoo Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering (DSME) and Spanish shipbuilder Navantia showcased their respective design proposals for the Royal Australian Navy's (RAN's) new afloat replenishment ships at the recent Pacific 2015 international maritime exposition and conference in Sydney.

In June 2014 the two companies were shortlisted to bid for Australia's Project SEA 1654 Phase 3, which seeks to replace the RAN supply ships HMAS Success (OR 304) and HMAS Sirius (O 266) with off-the-shelf acquisitions. In October 2014 both DSME and Navantia received parallel risk reduction contracts to complete their respective design baselines to meet the RAN's specific needs.

DSME's proposal is based on BMT Defence Services' Aegir 18A support ship design. A model of the proposal was revealed for the first time at Pacific 2015, following completion of the risk reduction studies, Wan-Ho Jo from DSME's naval and special ship marketing team told IHS Jane's .

The design proposal features a length of 180 m, an overall beam of 26 m, a draught of 13 m, and a standard displacement of 25,800 tonnes, according to specifications provided by the company.

"The design is very similar to the logistics support vessel that is being built for the Royal Norwegian Navy," said Jo, who added that the proposal includes air-conditioning modifications to suit the climatic conditions in which the ships will be operating.

Rob Steel, BMT's Head of International Naval Business, said that the proposal's "modern and contemporary design" was one of the key selling points of the consortium's proposal. "The design meets [International Maritime Organisation] and Australian legislations," Steel told IHS Jane's at Pacific 2015.

Steel pointed to the proposal's twin shaft/twin skeg design as another advantage.

http://www.janes.com/article/55176/dsme-navantia-unveil-design-proposals-for-new-ran-replenishment-ships

[Ace1]

Hebben jullie ook gezien wat er op het dek staat ?  
2× LCU en 4x CV90

Zelf dacht ik dat het LCVP's waren, maar dat zou natuurlijk ook kunnen.

[Elzenga]

Hebben jullie ook gezien wat er op het dek staat ?   
2× LCU en 4x CV90

CB90s ja...heeft een flinke "vracht" mee zo. Vind die LCU installaties nog wel een idee voor (aangepaste) JSS(en)...ipv een klein dok. Maar dat is weer een ander topic