Nederlandse defensie industrie

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Kamerbrief: Studie 'Economische effecten marinebouwcluster'

Brief Stas EZK

Eindrapport Economische Effecten Marinebouwcluster

Kamerstuk, 10-09-2018

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Damen is in de race om de Braziliaanse korvetten te mogen bouwen maar ook om 4 korvetten + 2 fregatten voor Roemenië te mogen bouwen met een totaal waarde van 1,6 miljard Euro.
Naast Damen doen ook TKMS en Fincantieri mee in deze aanbesteding, waarin het besluit verwacht word op 26 Oktober. Ook de Italianen hebben ook 2 werven in Roemenië via een dochteronderneming ''Vard'' (uit Noorwegen) Vard Braila & Vard Tulcea.

Voor de Braziliaanse korvetten word het besluit wie er geshortlist worden eind Oktober en de keuze voor de bouwer word verwacht aan het eind van 2018.

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De Nederlandse Boxer productielijn zal opnieuw opgestart worden voor de bouw van 25 Australische voertuigen, dat is mooi om te horen dat Nederland toch een heel klein stukje mee profiteert van deze deal.

Via: Twitter.com @ @GrantTurnbull_

ARTEC's Dutch production line for Boxer will fire up again to build 25 vehicles for Australia as a UOR. That facility has just delivered final Boxer to Dutch Army and was preparing for MRO duties, but surge demand means it now comes back online.

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Toch wel een innovatieve manier van bouwen hoor, brugmodule plaatsen met alle navcom middelen al geïnstalleerd....

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Dit ziet er een stuk ''robuuster'' uit dan de Indonesische versie, goed op weg Mexico!
En ligt het aan mij of vliegen de Mexicanen door de bouw heen in een tempo waar Usain Bolt jaloers op is?

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POLA PROJECT BEREIKT GROTE MIJLPAAL
Het POLA project (Patrulla Oceánica de Largo Alcance) heeft een grote mijlpaal bereikt nadat de brugmodule op het schip is geplaatst in Salina Cruz, Mexico. Op 30 augustus arriveerde MV Rolldock SUN in de haven van Salina Cruz met de brugmodule aan boord. Op dezelfde dag werden de voorbereidende activiteiten voor het lossen van de module gestart waarbij de hull van de POLA naast de Rolldock SUN werd gemanoeuvreerd. De volgende dag, 31 augustus, werd er bij zonsopgang een GO gegeven voor het hijsen van de module vanuit het ruim. De hijsoperatie duurde ongeveer 3 uur en eindige met het succesvol plaatsen van de module aan boord van de POLA. Na het vastzetten van de module is ze terug gesleept naar het droogdok van de ASTIMAR 20 scheepswerf voor het verdere afbouwen van het schip.

[Bron: Damen Shipyards ]

[Bron: Damen Shipyards ]

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Tunisian Navy receives third Damen OPV

The Tunisian Navy has received the third of four new Damen-built Multi Service Offshore Patrol Vessel 1400 (MSOPV 1400) series offshore patrol vessels (OPVs).

Hannon (P 612) set sail from Galati in Romania on 11 August, according to AIS data, and arrived in Tunisia one week later on 17 August.

Imagery of the ship taken as it transited the Bosphorus Strait in Turkey on 12 August shows that Hannon has a different configuration to the first two ships of the class, Jugurtha (P 610) and Syphax (P 611).

[Source: Janes.com ]


Foto's via twitter.com/YorukIsik







En een foto via YorukIsik van de 2e OPV uit de serie op 6 mei waar goed het verschil te zien is met de 3e en mogelijk ook de 4e.

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Brazil postpones decisions again for its new corvettes

The Brazilian Navy has postponed by about two months the short list and best and final offer (BAFO) decisions for its ambitious Tamandaré-class corvette project, the second leading priority within the force.

The newly established schedule calls for the short list and BAFO announcements to occur in October and December respectively, the navy told Jane's on 17 August. The navy said it is delaying its decision because it needs additional information from the competitors to properly analyse the bids. Service officials provided no additional details on what information it still requires.

The navy has not said how many companies will be included on the short list.

[Source: Janes.com ]

Zoals ik al schreef : vertraagd nu tot oktober - december. Met bijna 20 bieders zal het proces een grote chaos zijn.

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Interessant voorstel voor de Braziliaanse Marine.
Ziet er goed "gebalanceerd" uit.

Vwb. wapensystemen zijn er natuurlijk verschillende keuzes met 76mm/3" - 57 mm als main gun tot de 40mm (die ze al gebruiken). De Britse 4.5" gaat er dus uit.
Ook voor missiles hebben ze genoeg keuze...

Wat propulsie aangaat ben ik niet wild op de CODOE... max snelheid slechts 26 kn...
'Economisch 14kn is OK. Ik vermoed dat wanneer ze in eskader varen dat die snelheid dan ook op slechts 14 kn komt ipv de zeer gebruikelijke 16 kn.

Ik denk dat deze combo Damen-SAAB wel degelijk bij de kanshebbers zit.

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Enn waarom niet Damen Thales? Van alles wat nu is voorbijgekomen. Van onderzeeers tot fregatten..ik begrijp nooit waarom SAAB met Damen werkt en niet Thales.

Thales doet mee in deze aanbesteding, het zal de sonar leveren (kingklip) niet alleen bij Damen maar ook bij diverse andere aanbieders, volgens mij zijn ze zelfs verkozen door de Braziliaanse marine als leverancier voor alle aanbiedingen. En Thales is in de basis een Frans bedrijf, en werkt in deze aanbesteding al samen met 2 andere partners STM uit Turkije en UKRINMASH uit Ukraine.

Vergeet niet dat Saab al op veel schepen van de Brazilianen geïntegreerd zit en dus waarschijnlijk om die reden gekozen is door Damen. Daarnaast is er misschien wel een interne ''aanbesteding'' geweest met verschillende leveranciers waar uit Saab het beste voorstel heeft neergelegd dat het meeste voldeed aan de eisen. En Damen is in die verhaal niet de uitvoerende werf maar dat is Wilson uit Brazilië (wel onderdeel van de Damen Group).

En persoonlijk ben ik wel voorstander voor de uitbreiding van de samenwerking tussen Damen en Saab, zeker voor de export markt kunnen ze samen sterk staan. Maar we moeten Thales niet vergeten daar heb je gelijk in. Voor de NL markt en ook export moet Thales een belangrijke rol blijven spelen.

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Enn waarom niet Damen Thales? Van alles wat nu is voorbijgekomen. Van onderzeeers tot fregatten..ik begrijp nooit waarom SAAB met Damen werkt en niet Thales.

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Damen heeft een model laten maken van een LPD Enforcer 10000. Het is een model van het aanbod in de race voor de Maleisische marine en hun Multi Role Supply Ship (MRSS).


[Photo : Scale Models Weston ]

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Ook kwam ik nog deze website tegen http://tamandare.damen.com/, net als die van de Nederlandse marine heeft Damen een aparte site met info rondom dit project. Op deze website staan ook nieuwe berichten rondom andere projecten van Damen / Saab en Wilson. En de onderstaande impressies van het Tamandare project.






En een mooi overzicht van alle Damen schepen die rond varen bij de diverse marines/ kustwachten van de landen in Noord & Zuid-Amerika.

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Wat meer info over het aanbod van Damen-Saab voor de Braziliaanse marine. Ook Heinen & Hopman is bij dit project betrokken en zijn verantwoordelijk voor alle HVAC-R systemen aan boord.
Verder lees ik dat de Braziliaanse marine niet tevreden is met de proposals, geen van de 9 ingediende ontwerpen zou 100% voldoen aan de eisen die gesteld zijn. De shortlist periode is begin augustus uitgesteld met 30 dagen, maximaal 60 dagen waar in alle bedrijven opnieuw moeten indienen. Ik vraag me af of de Brazilianen niet te veel vragen want 100% tevreden met een ruw ontwerp dat lukt naar mijn idee niet. Je gaat pas dingen aanpassen als je er 3 of 4 hebt gekozen die verder mogen en niet bij alle 9 al.

Tamandaré class: more details of the proposal of Damen, Saab and Wilson Sons



At the RIDEX fair, which took place between June 27 and 29 in Rio de Janeiro, the Damen Saab Tamandaré Consortium, in which the two European companies and the Brazilian shipyard Wilson Sons participate, presented information about their proposal based on the ship Sigma 10514 for the program of the new corvettes for the Brazilian Navy, and the Naval Power also determined some additional technical characteristics of the ships

This article deals with the Damen / Saab / Wilson Sons proposal for the "Tamandaré" Corvette Classification Program (CCT) of the Brazilian Navy (MB). But before discussing the proposal, it is worth briefly to recall some previous events of the program to put the proposal in the right context: on December 19 of last year (2017), MB launched the Request for Proposals (RFP) ) for foreign shipyards interested in building the CCT in partnership with shipyards in Brazil, with technology transfer for the construction of the four ships requested. On occasion ( click hereto present material of the time), it was informed to the attendees that the proposals could be answered for the construction of both the project of intellectual property of the Navy (developed by the Project Center of Ships of MB and detailed by Vard, from the corvette Barroso , in service, and received several important enhancements and modifications) with both a proponent's intellectual property project - NAPIP - as long as it exceeded the characteristics of the Navy's design.

On June 18 of this year, nine tenders were delivered in response to the RFP, including the consortium formed by Dutch shipyard Damen Schelde Naval Shipbuilding (DSNS), Saab Naval Solutions division of Swedish defense group Saab, and Wilson Sons Shipyards , of Brazil. The consortium is competing for the CCT program with a proposal from NAPIP, a modified version of the Sigma 10514 platform.

In this regard, we bring some details of the consortium's proposal and technical aspects of the ship, as we can see in the recent edition of the Ridex fair, held June 27-29 in Rio de Janeiro, an event to which the Naval Power was present and the consortium exhibited in a stand of the partnership Damen - Saab - Wilson Sons. At the booth, there was a mock-up of the proposed ship (which can be seen in the photos above and below, and others of this subject) and artistic designs on walls, electronic panels and printed materials.



Sigma Platform 10514 - Versions of the ship were contracted by the navies of Indonesia, Morocco and Mexico, being basically, according to the consortium, a proven project on which the necessary modifications to the RFP were introduced. The Sigma name corresponds to a family of Damen craft ranging from patrol vessels and fast attack to frigates, in which the shape of the hull, built according to a standard structural plane, is enlarged in length and mouth (width) for the various options. This format, according to Damen, is a result of the experience with seven generations of frigates built in the past, being therefore widely tested. Although the highlight of the Dutch company at the time was on military ships, it was stressed that Damen already build more of 6 thousand vessels in total, serving more than 20 navies, accumulating about 140 years of experience.

The numbering of vessels of the Sigma family refers to the length and mouth of the vessel. Thus, the Sigma 7513 corvette, for example, refers to a vessel 75 meters long and 13 meters wide (approximate values). It is worth mentioning that the company classifies family products as corvettes up to Sigma 9113 (91m long x 13m mouth) and the next family model, Sigma 9813, is already presented as a frigate. But this rating varies from manufacturer to manufacturer, from customer to customer.

In the case of the ship offered to the Brazilian competition, the offer is based on the Sigma 10514 project, that is, a ship 105 meters long and 14 meters long and which the manufacturer classifies as a frigate. As mentioned, already had signed contracts and shipbuilding started in Mexico, Morocco and Indonesia (for this, the first delivery was in February 2017). However, although the numbering has been maintained as 10514, in the datasheet of the Brazilian version the length indicated is not 105 meters, but of 107.5 meters, and can be seen by the illustrations and the own model, compared with example to the version recently delivered to Indonesia, that this extra length was apparently made in the transom (which gained a greater slope), widening the area of ​​the convoy.



According to Damen, the Sigma family project is modular, using standard solutions and the use of commercially available equipment, so-called "off-the-shelf" items whenever possible, which can be improved to meet standards when necessary. Another feature highlighted by the Dutch company is that the effect of repeating solutions in the Sigma family, both in the hull and systems, reduces construction complexity and project risk.

Modularity and learning- In order to meet the Brazilian Navy's RFP regarding local content requirements, technology transfer, Brazilian shipbuilding and future maintenance capacity, the consortium took advantage of the modular construction concept of the Sigma platform. According to Alencar Leal, a Navy reserve officer (who left the service 10 years ago) and is currently a Saab Brazil project analyst, if he wins the Navy's competition, the proposal foresees that most of the construction work of the four ships will be made at the Brazilian shipyard that is part of the consortium, Wilson Sons. Only a few modules of the first ship are to be built in the Netherlands, in the case of those containing the automation and electronics components, with the learning of Brazilian engineers and technicians in the process to train how to "stuff" these modules with the highly complex systems offered. Other modules of this first ship would already be built in Brazil by the Wilson Sons shipyard.

Artistic conception of the Damen - Saab consortium - Wilson Sons shows the various modules that make up the Sigma 10514 offered for Brazil. Large-gauge options are available for the proposed 57mm main cannon, as well as anti-aircraft missile launchers from both the Exocet / Mansup standard (4 + 4 configuration) adopted by the Brazilian Navy and the Swedish RBS15 standard (2+ 2)

From the second unit, all modules, including those that receive the automation and electronics components, would be built in Brazil, meeting the local content and schedule requirements required by the Navy RFP. According to Leal, not only the training of Brazilian engineers and technicians in the Netherlands to accompany the construction of the first modules and integration of electronic systems, but also the training of crews to operate the ships are met by the consortium proposal (it is worth remembering that the requirements of crew training solutions are in the Navy's RFP).

Wilson Sons and risk reduction - According to Alencar Leal, the consortium proposal aims to minimize the risks of the Brazilian Navy with the new corvettes, offering a ship that is a proven platform, to be built by a national shipyard, Wilson Sons , which already has a business relationship of more than 20 years with the Dutch Damen. That is, they are already accustomed to running programs, building ships and sharing project information "speaking the same language", they do not have to start learning to work together now. Similarly, Damen and Saab have been running other programs together in Europe for quite some time, according to Leal.

About Wilson Sons, the shipyard has more than 80 years of history and is located in the city of Guarujá (coast of the state of São Paulo), next to the entrance channel of the port of Santos, and its experience in the construction, maintenance and repair of ships is mostly on vessels to support offshore platforms and harbor support. The shipyard has already built more than 130 ships, 90 of them together with Damen.

Artistic conception of the Sigma version 10514 offered for the CCT program of the Brazilian Navy, overlapped by two Saab Gripen fighters and having the panorama of Rio de Janeiro in the background

Saab Systems, Sensors, and Guns - A large number of systems and armaments are supplied by the Saab group (which has more than 75 years of experience in the defense market), such as the 9LV combat management system, which is customizable for various types of military ships. The architecture of the 9LV is open, to facilitate the integration of third-party modules, and according to the consortium is already employed by several navies. Alencar Leal said that the proposal of the system could not go into further details, even though the selection processes and deeper negotiations with the Navy on equipment, sensors and specific systems will depend on the offer to move to the short list of the competition, 9LV is to continue the evolution of the national combat system.

In the material presented, are included among the main items of Saab not only the 9LV system, but also 3D Sea Giraffe AMB and 1X surveillance radars (inside a conical radome that forms the continuity of the main mast), radar system / radar CEROS 200 shooting range, EOS 500 shooting direction / electronic / optic handle, electronic warfare systems (R-ESM and C-ESM SME 250 and CRS Naval), TactiCall integrated communications system, sea-surface missile launchers RBS15 (four missiles in 2 + 2 configuration), as well as remote Trackfire weapon stations. Although not explicitly named, the main (57mm) and secondary (40mm) cannons shown in the artistic designs and the mock-up are products of Swedish origin (Bofors, currently being offered by BAE Systems).

System vendors such as sonar, triple launchers of antisubmarine torpedoes (positioned behind doors at the superstructure edges), missile launchers as well as anti-aircraft missiles (in vertical launch cells positioned behind the main cannon) were not explicitly introduced. It is worth noting, however, that in addition to the Wilson Sons shipyard, the  consortium presented some of the Brazilian partner companies in the proposal, in this case Consub ( solutions in technology and integration of marine systems), responsible for equipment integration, and Akaer (aerospace and of defense), which will provide "other combat systems". Consub, it's worth mentioning, is a provider of Siconta combat management systems for MB. Was reinforced by the consortium the flexibility of the proposal to meet the requirements that the Navy stipulates, after possible advancement of the proposal of the consortium in the competition, to install specific equipment of suppliers of their choice.



Finding more details  - In addition to the general issues surrounding the consortium proposal, this Naval Power collaborator sought to know some more specific details of the ship offered to the competition. For that, I talked to one of Damen's naval engineers, Roberto Santoro, as far as it was possible before a company executive "kindly" asked me to ask no more questions at the booth.

Weapons platform in front of the bridge - The first of these questions referred to the change of position of the secondary cannon, which in other ships Sigma 10514 is installed in platform between the bridge and the main cannon, and which stands out in the diagonal line of the superstructure . In the model and illustrations of the competition version of the "Tamandaré" class, the secondary cannon, whose shape is clearly a BAE Bofors 40mm Mk4 remote-operated turret (with local operation back up), is positioned on the hangar as What is the Mk3 turret of Corvette Barroso?of the Brazilian Navy. The change meets the Navy's own requirements. I asked if the proposal includes any option to occupy this platform in front of the bridge with some armament, and if, in the event that some areas of the lower deck compartments could be made available, the project would allow the installation below that platform of vertical launchers of greater length than those already foreseen on the main deck (taking advantage of the greater height in relation to this to provide greater depth).



The answer was that this platform is seen, in the version offered for MB, as space for eventual installation on it of desirable weapons systems in the future, in upgrades and upgrades. That is, a space reserved for growth capacity. However, it would not be advisable, by ship of this size, that vertical launchers should be closer to the bridge than they are in the original proposal - unless a redesign of the superstructure was made in that position, which would not be a major problem in concept of modularity of the Sigma family. Thus, the goal is for this platform to remain vague for any future Navy needs.

CODOE Propulsion - Having met this curiosity, I started to ask several questions about the configuration of the CODOE propulsion system (Combined Diesel Or Electric) in two axles and two propellers of the proposed ship. For this conversation, I and the engineer took advantage of the good view that the model offered of the three chimneys, a central one and of small size, near the bottom of the hangar, and other two majors placed side by side the half-ship, which served guide for the distribution of the main and auxiliary engines below. In summary, responses indicated the following system configuration, from stern to bow, in separate compartments to ensure greater survival in combat:

At the time of the small central chimney, two auxiliary diesel engines coupled to two generators, each with power in the 1MW range (values ​​are approximated, and Santoro could not go into more detail).



Between the central chimney and the two largest, there will be the compartment in which will be two electric motors, dividing the space with the gearbox of the two main diesel engines.

These two diesel engines, much larger in size than the auxiliary engines with power in the range of 10MW each, will be in compartment just below the two larger chimneys.

Finally, in the last compartment of the propulsion system, towards the bow, there will be two auxiliary engines of 1MW (with exhaustion by piping connected to the two larger chimneys).

This system, in addition to greater subdivision, allows flexibility in propulsion. For an economical cruise, at speeds close to 14 knots that allow a range of 5,000 nautical miles, the two larger diesel engines are switched off, and the two electric motors coupled to the two axles, powered by the electricity generated by the four auxiliary motors ( which also account for the generation of energy for the other systems of the ship). It is worth noting that in modern designs the propulsion by electric motors powered by diesel generators, as long as they are installed in order to avoid propagation of noise and vibrations, can also provide silent displacement at lower speeds, which is especially desired in anti-submarine warfare.

Already for the peak speed, around 26 knots, electric motors do not come in line - so the second letter "O", or "CODOE" -, but the two large 10MW diesel engines of each power, coupled to said gearbox.

I asked if this arrangement with two main diesel engines was conventional, in which both are connected to the gearbox so that both can rotate both axes, and the answer was positive, which led me to question which the speed in a possible use of only one of the engines, in a situation where a higher cruising speed was required (in a not as economical range as 14 knots with the electric motors fed by auxiliary diesel but with lower consumption than would be the case with two main engines driven). Santoro said it would exceed 20 knots, although he stressed that he could not go into more detail or provide more accurate figures.



Other issues related to the hangar and convoy capacity, as well as the existence of a longitudinal internal corridor as in the Navy's intellectual property project, with positive responses as to the existence of the corridor and the ability to operate and hangar helicopter of the size of the Sea Hawk , with both requirements of the RFP. Shortly after this phase of the conversation, however, I had to close my insistent battery of questions, as already mentioned. Thus, any additional details about the project will remain for another opportunity. Here are the basic characteristics of the Sigma 10514 version for the "Tamandaré" class program:

Length: 107.5m
Mouth: 14,02m
Draft: 3.9m
Displacement: 2,600t
Maximum speed: 26 knots
Power unit: CODOE
Crew: 136
Autonomy: 28 days
Range: 5,000 nautical miles at 14 knots
Finally, it is worth mentioning that during the event the Damen / Saab / Wilson Sons partnership booth received visits from Defense Minister General Joaquim Silva e Luna, Minister of Public Security Raul Jungmann and the Navy commander, Admiral of squad Eduardo Bacellar Leal Ferreira. Saab was also present at Ridex with its own booth dedicated to presenting solutions that are not part of the "Tamandaré" class program, as is the case with its mining countermeasure vessels. Naval Power photographed the Navy commander when visiting the Saab booth (photo below).



[Source: www.naval.com.br ]

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De eerste SIGMA 10514 POLA van de Mexicaanse marine krijgt de naam ARM Reformador en het pennant POLA 101. Ook zal het worden uitgerust met een VDS van Thales.

Via twitter.com/josecerva, hier een foto van het model maar dan zonder mk56 VLS's. Een Spaanstalige defensie website maakt melding van een gerucht dat mogelijk gekozen is om de RAM niet te kopen maar ESSM in de plaats. Dit zal later pas duidelijk worden, misschien pas als het schip in dienst gesteld word.