Internationale fighter ontwikkelingen

[Sparkplug]

F35A en C hebben een intergreerd boordkanon, alleen de B niet en daarvoor is die pod ontwikkeld.

Maar F-35 voor Close Air Support zoals de A10 het doet met zijn kanon ?  dat geloof ik niet

Alleen de F-35A heeft de GAU-22/A intern De F-35B en de F-35C gebruiken de GPU-9 gun pod. De F-35B en de F-35C hebben hun eigen GPU-9 uitvoering i.v.m. verschil onderkant romp.

Het GAU-22/A kanon is goed als back-up voor wanneer het uitkomt (air-to-air en air-to-ground target of opportunity).

[Stoonbrace]

Jongens, CAS draait niet in hoofdzaak rond gebruik van kanon. Al tijdens de Golfoorlog niet meer. De A-10 kan vervangen worden door de F-35/loyal wingman/MQ-9B, loitering munitions of smart artillery rounds. Network-centric warfare is een ding.

[Huzaar1]

F35A en C hebben een intergreerd boordkanon, alleen de B niet en daarvoor is die pod ontwikkeld.

Maar F-35 voor Close Air Support zoals de A10 het doet met zijn kanon ?  dat geloof ik niet

Idd

[Harald]

F35A en C hebben een intergreerd boordkanon, alleen de B niet en daarvoor is die pod ontwikkeld.

Maar F-35 voor Close Air Support zoals de A10 het doet met zijn kanon ?  dat geloof ik niet

[Huzaar1]

Niemand zegt toch dat het kanon verdwijnt. Wat wordt gezegd is; CAS met kanon gebeurt met mens.  Ook herft niemans het hier over de F-35 in een CAS rol zoals de A10 dat doet.

Ik volg je niet

[Benji87]

Dan begreep ik het verkeerd. Maar het ligt er aan hoe CAS moet worden verleend. Een kanon biedt bepaalde voordelen.. indien dat danger close vuursteun vraagt wordt dat denk ik alleen een mens toevertrouwd.

Dat klopt, een kanon heeft voordelen maar ook zijn nadelen. Voor CAS missies, en dan met name in high intensity conflicts lijkt de A10 ook grotendeels afhankelijk te zijn van (on) geleide raketten en bommen.

Het is ook niet alsof het kanon uit het CAS  arsenaal gaat verdwijnen met de F35 in deze. De optie voor een 25mm kanon op de F35 wordt nog steeds aangeboden in de vorm van een GAU-12 25mm kanon op de F35A.

[Huzaar1]

Dat is het idee toch ook? Als je een F35 hebt met 1 of 2 loyal wingman(s) heb je een enorm arsenaal aan vuurkracht tot je beschikking. Volgens mij willen ze met de NGAD en FA-XX sowieso die kant op.

Dan begreep ik het verkeerd. Maar het ligt er aan hoe CAS moet worden verleend. Een kanon biedt bepaalde voordelen.. indien dat danger close vuursteun vraagt wordt dat denk ik alleen een mens toevertrouwd.

[Benji87]

Als A-10 vervanger? No way onbemand. Hoogstens als battle buddy.

Dat is het idee toch ook? Als je een F35 hebt met 1 of 2 loyal wingman(s) heb je een enorm arsenaal aan vuurkracht tot je beschikking. Volgens mij willen ze met de NGAD en FA-XX sowieso die kant op.

[Huzaar1]

Ik gok een onbemand toestel zoals de MQ-9 Mojave.

Als A-10 vervanger? No way onbemand. Hoogstens als battle buddy.

[Parera]

In dit artikel wordt zelfs al gesproken over een vervanger van de A10? Zit zoiets in de pijplijn dan of lopen daar studies naar?

Ik gok een onbemand toestel zoals de MQ-9 Mojave.

[Benji87]

What future for the formidable A-10 Thurderbolt II in its Close Air Support role?

The A-10 Thunderbolt II, commonly known as the Warthog, was developed by Fairchild Republic in the 1970s, primarily for the U.S. Air ....

In dit artikel wordt zelfs al gesproken over een vervanger van de A10? Zit zoiets in de pijplijn dan of lopen daar studies naar?

[Harald]

F-15EX not currently at risk of schedule breach, despite delivery delays: USAF  ( CFT's zijn niet gebudgeteerd, pas in 2028. Dus F-15EX eerst zonder de extra wapen- en brandstofcapaciteit )

The first four lots of jets — almost half the total expected buy — will not come with conformal fuel tanks, a key part of the operational profile for what the service hopes will be its missile truck going forward.

The first batch of Boeing's F-15EX Eagle II fighters is running late, but not late enough to trigger a schedule breach if current plans hold, according to an Air Force spokesperson.

However, the service also confirmed that the first four lots of jets — about half the total expected buy — will not come with conformal fuel tanks, a decision that would reduce those fighters' potential ranges and limit their ability to conduct ground attack missions.

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The F-15EX can deliver more missiles than any other fighter in the Air Force's inventory, with a carrying capacity of up to 12. However, a Pentagon report released earlier this year revealed that the Air Force's "first operational F-15EX units" won't be outfitted with conformal fuel tanks (CFTs), and an Air Force spokesperson confirmed to Breaking Defense late last month that CFTs weren't funded for any of the 54 aircraft in production lots 1-4. (The two test aircraft currently in the Air Force's inventory have the CFTs.)

Those two CFTs per fighter provide hard points to mount ground-attack weapons, explained Boeing Chief F-15 Pilot Matt Giese on the sidelines of the Dubai Airshow. The fighter can still carry 12 missiles without the CFTs, but may mainly be tasked with air-to-air roles as a result, he said.

"I think it's the same capability air-to-air wise whether you're CFT or not, you just lose a lot of gas," Giese said, adding that the CFTs provide approximately an extra 9,000 pounds of fuel.

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https://breakingdefense.com/2023/11/f-15ex-not-currently-at-risk-of-schedule-breach-despite-delivery-delays-usaf/

[Harald]

What future for the formidable A-10 Thurderbolt II in its Close Air Support role?

The A-10 Thunderbolt II, commonly known as the Warthog, was developed by Fairchild Republic in the 1970s, primarily for the U.S. Air Force. It serves a critical role as a close air support (CAS) and ground-attack aircraft, designed to provide vital assistance to ground forces during combat operations. But several times in a row, its future has been threatened from various sides.



Visually, the A-10 exhibits a distinct and robust appearance, characterized by its twin-engine, straight-wing configuration. It stands out with a high-mounted, straight tail featuring twin vertical stabilizers and a distinctive nose-mounted GAU-8/A Avenger 30mm rotary cannon.

In its role, the A-10 is tasked with engaging and neutralizing ground targets in close proximity to friendly forces. Additionally, it possesses the capability to perform forward air control (FAC) and combat search and rescue (CSAR) missions when required.

One of the aircraft's prominent features is the GAU-8/A Avenger 30mm cannon, capable of firing various ammunition types, including armor-piercing and high-explosive rounds. In addition to this formidable weapon, the A-10 can carry an assortment of other munitions, such as precision-guided bombs, rockets, and air-to-surface missiles.

The avionics systems on the A-10 are designed to support its operations in a low-altitude, close combat environment. These systems include a basic radar system, along with navigation and communication equipment.

The A-10's reputation for durability and survivability in combat is well-deserved. It is constructed to endure damage and remain operational, thanks to redundant systems and protective measures, including an armored cockpit and vital components.

While not known for exceptional speed or agility, the A-10 excels in its ability to loiter over a battlefield for extended periods, ensuring continuous support to ground troops. Its top speed and operational altitude are relatively modest when compared to more modern fighter aircraft.

Maintenance of the A-10 is simplified due to its straightforward airframe, facilitating maintenance and repairs even in austere conditions.

Throughout its history, the A-10 Thunderbolt II has seen extensive operational use by the USAF in various conflicts, including the Gulf War, Kosovo War, and the War on Terror. Its effectiveness in close air support roles has earned it a reputation as a valuable asset to ground forces.

However, it's essential to note some limitations of the A-10, including its vulnerability to modern air defense systems due to its lower speed and lack of advanced stealth features. Additionally, its air-to-air combat capabilities are limited.


One of the A-10 Thunderbolt II's prominent features is its GAU-8/A Avenger 30mm cannon, capable of firing various ammunition types, including armor-piercing and high-explosive rounds, at a rate of fire of approximately 3,900 rounds per minute

A-10's future threatened

The discussions surrounding the potential replacement of the A-10 Thunderbolt II reflect the ongoing debate over the role of specialized close air support (CAS) aircraft in modern warfare. While the A-10 has proven its worth in supporting ground troops, it's essential for Congress to consider the evolving nature of conflicts and the need for adaptable and cost-effective solutions.

The A-10 has earned a legendary reputation for its durability and effectiveness in close air support missions, and any decision to replace it should not be taken lightly. Congress should thoroughly evaluate the capabilities and cost-effectiveness of potential replacements, ensuring that they can fulfill the critical role of supporting troops on the ground while also considering budget constraints and evolving military strategies.

Congressional threats to replace the A-10 highlight the complex balance between maintaining legacy platforms and investing in modern technology. It's crucial to recognize that while the A-10 has unique strengths, new threats and operational requirements may necessitate more advanced aircraft. The decision should be guided by a comprehensive assessment of current and future battlefield needs.

The A-10 replacement debate underscores the importance of a robust and transparent decision-making process. Congress should engage in a thorough analysis of the capabilities, costs, and operational requirements of potential replacements. Additionally, they should seek input from military experts and consider the perspectives of ground forces who rely on close air support.

The discussions regarding the A-10's replacement highlight the need for a balanced approach to modernizing the military's fleet. While the A-10 has been a workhorse in the CAS role, technology has evolved, and new threats have emerged. Congress should prioritize the development of aircraft that can effectively address current and future challenges while maintaining a commitment to supporting troops on the ground.

Congressional consideration of replacing the A-10 should include a thorough examination of the economic implications. The costs associated with developing, procuring, and maintaining new aircraft should be weighed against the potential benefits in terms of increased capabilities and mission flexibility. A well-informed decision-making process is essential to ensure responsible stewardship of taxpayer dollars.

The A-10 replacement debate highlights the need for a holistic approach to military modernization. Congress should focus not only on the aircraft itself but also on training, logistics, and support infrastructure to ensure a seamless transition. Additionally, they should consider the potential impact on the industrial base and the defense workforce when making decisions about replacing legacy platforms.

As Congress evaluates potential replacements for the A-10, it's crucial to maintain a long-term perspective. The chosen aircraft should not only meet current operational requirements but also have the flexibility to adapt to evolving threats and technologies. A thoughtful and strategic approach to modernization will ensure that the military remains prepared for the challenges of the future.

https://www.airrecognition.com/index.php/news/defense-aviation-news/2023-news-aviation-aerospace/november/9355-what-future-for-the-formidable-a-10-thurderbolt-ii-in-its-close-air-support-role.html

[Harald]

Colombia Selects Rafale, May Sign Contract This Week  (     , zeker een Franse deal    )

The Rafale has been selected by Colombia as its next superiority fighter, having beaten the F-16V, Eurofighter and Gripen in a protracted competition. Rafale was selected because it "is the best option for the country in terms of price, efficiency and operability," according to the Colombian President.

Having announced on Dec. 22 that it had selected the Dassault Rafale combat aircraft to replace its elderly Kfirs, Colombia may this week sign an initial contract worth about $680 million covering the first three or four aircraft, according to South American media reports.

Colombia plans to order a total of 16 aircraft: 12 single-seaters and four two-seaters, at a cost of $3.2 billion, for which the French will extend a 20-year loan with a grace period of five years, several media reported. Initial deliveries are planned for 2025, which implies that at least part of the order will consist of second-hand aircraft taken from the French Air and Space Force.

In a post on his Twitter account, the Colombian President's Office said that "the Rafale aircraft proposal is the best option for the country in terms of price, efficiency and operability," adding that "One flight hour of a Rafale plane is approx. 30% cheaper than that of a Kfir (estimated at 89 million pesos)," or approximately $16,900.

Various South American media report that this initial contract will also cover the integration of Colombia's systems and weapons, simulators for crew training, training of technical personnel and assistance from the French Air Force and Space. It will be signed by Colombian President Gustavo Petro and a senior executive from the French company, accompanied by diplomatic personnel from the French embassy. Petro, in a series of tweets posted Dec. 22, cautioned that "There are no signed contracts, it is a pre-negotiation! The offer that the Government will study has an estimated cost of up to $15 billion pesos (approx $3.15 billion) and not $26 billion, as has been said erroneously."

Colombia has been mulling the replacement of its Kfirs for several years, and had earlier this year short-listed three aircraft in addition to the Rafale: the Lockheed Martin F-16V Block 70 Viper, which was initially favored by the Colombian Air Force, the Saab Gripen, and second-hand Eurofighter Tranche 1.

F-16V offer too inflexible

While the F-16V initially led the field, it was eliminated during the selection process because the Colombian Air Force concluded that its electronic warfare system is inferior to that of the Israeli-made Kfirs now in service, and Lockheed was not willing to change it. Colombia also considers that its Python 5 air-to-air missiles are better than the versions of Sidewinder offered with the F-16V, but Lockheed refused to integrate the Python and Derby missiles and the Spice laser-guided bombs that the FAC now operates. The US government offered the F-16V with only Sidewinder and AMRAAM air-to-air missiles.

Gripen "second-best at everything"

The FAC also considered that the Gripen did not lead in any capability area, but "came second in everything," according to a Colombian official quoted by the Argentinian website Pucara. Gripen "is having major integration problems in Brazil with its air-to-air and air-to-surface systems, which are not fully operational, they are in a kind of Beta version," the official said. Furthermore, because production for Brazil and Sweden has priority, delivery times are very long.

Eurofighter most expensive, complex maintenance

Colombia's selection board found that the Eurofighter is a very capable aircraft, better than Rafale in some respects, but is very expensive and complex to maintain. The Colombian Air Force wanted to buy Tranche 3 aircraft, but it was offered only Tranche 1 and 2 for immediate delivery. Tranche 3 aircraft had very long delivery times, and financing costs were also higher than for the other competitors.

Rafale unrestricted, shortest delivery times

While Colombia was faced with an American refusal to adapt the F-16V, the high costs of the Eurofighter and the limitations of Gripen, the French marketing team in mid-2022 decided to improve its offer, Pucara reported, and removed end-user restrictions, which also existed on the Gripen and the Eurofighter. In addition, France agreed not only to provide Meteor air-to-air missiles, but also to integrate the Israeli-made Derby and Python 5 missiles and Spice bombs, "making it the most capable of all" the competitors, according to the Infodefensa website.

France also promised it could deliver the first aircraft one year after contract signature -- the shortest delivery time of all the competitors. This is essential because Kfir will be retired at the end of 2023, when they wll be 42 years old and will have served for 30 years in the Colombian Air Force. Their replacement is mandatory as the manufacturer no longer provides support, and spare parts are difficult to obtain.

In fact, the improved Rafale offer solved several of Colombia's problems. Its electronic warfare capability is customizable, and France will give Colombia access to the software source codes needed to modify it on its own. Rafale will also integrate Colombia's stock of Israeli-supplied weapons, reducing the need to replace them. Another advantage is that, since it was designed to operate from aircraft carriers, it can operate from short runways, a capability that the Typhoon and the F-16 cannot match. This allows them to operate in places like Tres Esquinas, Grupo Aéreo del Oriente and San Andrés airfields.

Rafale also requires less logistical support and is more versatile to operate. It is also more maneuverable, with a better thrust-to-weight ratio, and in addition has an AESA radar with better coverage than its competitors, according to local media reports.

https://www.defense-aerospace.com/colombia-selects-rafale-may-sign-contract-this-week/

[Benji87]

Dit is voor de Swedish Space Force   

Zie ook dat je het zelf in mekaar moet zetten. Dus kan je nu al op papier meegeven dat die planning nooit gehaald gaat worden