Canada wil vijfde C-17 aanschaffen

Gestart door andré herc, 12/12/2014 | 20:10 uur

Lex

Citaat van: andré herc op 23/12/2014 | 20:41 uur
Elzenga heb je het nu nog niet door dat de Nederlandse krijgsmacht ook wereldwijd ingezet wordt en dat Nederland niet altijd moet aankloppen bij Australië of Canada vooral omdat de NL Regering een snel inzetbare[flitsmacht] krijgsmacht wil!
EATC?

andré herc

Citaat van: Elzenga op 23/12/2014 | 14:47 uur
daarnaast is Canada, net als Australië, gewoon een erg groot land..met grote afstanden. Daar speelt dit soort transportcapaciteit ook een grotere rol.
Elzenga heb je het nu nog niet door dat de Nederlandse krijgsmacht ook wereldwijd ingezet wordt en dat Nederland niet altijd moet aankloppen bij Australië of Canada vooral omdat de NL Regering een snel inzetbare[flitsmacht] krijgsmacht wil!
Den Haag stop met afbreken van NL Defensie, en investeer in een eigen C-17.

Ace1

Citaat van: Ros op 22/12/2014 | 21:54 uur
Zonder C-17 was dit allemaal niet gelukt.......... :angel:

Als een KLuer als Ros dit zegt dan heeft heeft hij volkomenen gelijk hiermee.

Enforcer

Citaat van: Elzenga op 23/12/2014 | 14:47 uur
daarnaast is Canada, net als Australië, gewoon een erg groot land..met grote afstanden. Daar speelt dit soort transportcapaciteit ook een grotere rol.

NL heeft de grootste mond en wil wereldwijd inzetbaar zijn. Het gaat niet (alleen) om de grootte van het land, maar vooral waar men haantje de voorste bij wilt zijn. Tenminste, NL biedt eerst een zak geld en hoopt dat andere vuile handen willen maken...

Elzenga

Citaat van: Thomasen op 23/12/2014 | 11:14 uur
Het geeft in ieder geval aan, waar de Canadezen ook naar toe gaan, om wat voor reden dan ook, het is eigenlijk altijd ver weg. Airlift is nodig om gevoelig materieel enigszins tijdig in inzetgebieden te krijgen, of dat nu oefening, operatie of noodhulp is.
daarnaast is Canada, net als Australië, gewoon een erg groot land..met grote afstanden. Daar speelt dit soort transportcapaciteit ook een grotere rol.

dudge

Citaat van: Ros op 22/12/2014 | 21:54 uur
Zonder C-17 was dit allemaal niet gelukt.......... :angel:

Het geeft in ieder geval aan, waar de Canadezen ook naar toe gaan, om wat voor reden dan ook, het is eigenlijk altijd ver weg. Airlift is nodig om gevoelig materieel enigszins tijdig in inzetgebieden te krijgen, of dat nu oefening, operatie of noodhulp is.

Ros

Citaat van: jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter) op 22/12/2014 | 22:24 uur
Vast wel, net zo iets als een wereld met socialisten, je kan zeker zonder, het zou meteen efficiënter en zoveel sneller gaan :devil:

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jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter)

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Citaat van: Ros op 22/12/2014 | 21:54 uur
Zonder C-17 was dit allemaal niet gelukt.......... :angel:

Vast wel, net zo iets als een wereld met socialisten, je kan zeker zonder, het zou meteen efficiënter en zoveel sneller gaan :devil:

Ros

Citaat
The C-17 has been used for emergency hurricane relief in Jamaica, transporting personnel and equipment to the UK and Sierra Leone to stop the spread of ebola, and is key in Operation Impact to bring supplies to our troops in Kuwait. The C-17 has delivered material to CF-18s deployed in Lithuania in support of NATO as part of Operation Reassurance and the international response to Russia's aggression against the Ukraine.

Zonder C-17 was dit allemaal niet gelukt.......... :angel:

jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter)

Fifth CC-177 Globemaster to park at 8 Wing

december, 22-2014

The fifth CC-177 Globemaster (C-17) will be finding a parking spot on the tarmac at 8 Wing Trenton this spring. The base has room for four C-17s in its new hangars.

"It's good news," said MP Rick Norlock at the announcement on December 19 in front of a mighty C-17 in 1 Hangar.

Minister of National Defence Rob Nicholson said he is incredibly proud of the hard work of the military and that adding another C-17 to their fleet will add to their efficiency and flexibility. It will also extend the life of the entire fleet by about seven and a half years.

"The men and women of the Canadian Armed Forces deserve the best equipment to carry out their tasks," Nicholson said.

The $415-million purchase includes $30 million worth of support over the next 12 years.

"We already have the staff and training in place," he noted.

The C-17 has been extensively used in Canada and around the world and can carry 160,000 pounds of payload and land in the most difficult locations.

"It was the first to land on a frozen runway in Alert," he added.

The C-17 has been used for emergency hurricane relief in Jamaica, transporting personnel and equipment to the UK and Sierra Leone to stop the spread of ebola, and is key in Operation Impact to bring supplies to our troops in Kuwait. The C-17 has delivered material to CF-18s deployed in Lithuania in support of NATO as part of Operation Reassurance and the international response to Russia's aggression against the Ukraine.

"The world is volatile and unpredictable," he said. "Increasing our C-17s will decrease the burden on our fleet."

Nicholson said the C-17 has truly exceptional capabilities with long distance ranges and higher speeds than other aircraft.

Wing Commander Colonel David Lowthian said this announcement is a tribute to 8 Wing as the hub of air operations in Canada.

"No matter the destination, they all pass through CFB Trenton," he said.

He stated that the new C-17 will increase the flexibility of the Canadian Forces in crises and combat roles.

"It has proven to be responsive and reliable," Lowthian said.

He added that the aircraft travels at three quarters the speed of sound and carries four times the load of a Hercules and is quicker and more efficient.

"Having a fifth C-17 will guarantee readiness, availability and reliability," he commented.

He said the aircraft has been used in Haiti, the Arctic, Kuwait and the Philippines.

"The fifth aircraft will respond and sustain operations globally and in Canada," he said. "It flies higher, heavier, faster and deeper."

Rob Nicholson was given a tour of the inside of the C-17 along with MP Rick Norlock, Colonel David Lowthian and 8 Wing Honorary Colonel John Williams.

http://www.insidebelleville.com/news-story/5227880-fifth-cc-177-globemaster-to-park-at-8-wing/

dudge

In ieder geval een welkome aanvulling voor de Canadezen.

jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter)

New C-17 transport plane purchase costing twice what other countries pay

By David Pugliese, Postmedia News December 19, 2014

Defence Minister Rob Nicholson says Canada will purchase another C-17 military transport aircraft from the U.S. but he didn't explain why the plane appears to be costing taxpayers twice what other nations have paid.

Nicholson said Friday that Canada would pay $415 million for the acquisition. Another $30 million would be spent for 12 years of inservice support.

During the news conference at Canadian Forces Base Trenton, Ont., Nicholson was asked about the cost and the fact other nations have paid around $200 million per plane. Nicholson responded that the $415 million was the price negotiated with the plane's U.S. manufacturer Boeing.

"It's $415 million and it's part of the negotiations we have undertaken," Nicholson said. "The contract has been signed with Boeing. It's one of the last 10 that will come off the assembly line and I think we are very pleased and proud to have it."

Boeing says it is closing down the C-17 assembly line by the middle of next year.

Nicholson said he expects the C-17 to arrive in Canada sometime in the spring.

Canada has already purchased four C-17s from Boeing. The Royal Canadian Air Force refers to the aircraft as the CC-177.

The Department of National Defence could not provide a breakdown of how the $415 million was being spent but a spokesman noted that it includes the cost of the aircraft, some spare parts, and the cost to run a small project office.

Boeing could not respond to questions about the cost of the aircraft. "We are pleased with Canada's announcement and stand ready to deliver an additional C-17 to continue to meet the ongoing airlift requirements of the Royal Canadian Air

Force," noted company spokesman Scott Day in an emailed statement. "C-17s are unmatched in their ability to transport troops or heavy cargo, to support airdrop and aeromedical evacuations, and to deliver humanitarian aid virtually anywhere."

The RCAF started lobbying the government in 2012 for the purchase of an additional C-17. Senior officers pointed out that they believed the purchase was affordable. At the time, they estimated the additional aircraft would cost $169 million U.S., according to DND documents obtained by The Canadian Press.

The DND noted that the additional Globemaster C-17 would ease the burden on the current fleet and extend the life expectancy of the entire fleet by about seven and a half years.

With the purchase of an additional aircraft, the RCAF is projected to have at least three such aircraft available more than 90 per cent of the time to respond to concurrent international or domestic crises, it added. This represents an increase of approximately 25 per cent, according to the department.

Nicholson said the RCAF has made a lot of use of the C-17s. They have been used to move supplies to the Canadian military in Kuwait for the Iraq mission. They have also moved equipment and supplies for Canadian military personnel stationed in Lithuania as part of the NATO response to Russia's actions in Ukraine.

© Copyright (c) The StarPhoenix

http://www.thestarphoenix.com/transport+plane+purchase+costing+twice+what+other+countries/10669563/story.html

andré herc

Citaat van: Lex op 19/12/2014 | 23:25 uur
Ik zie liever dat er een investering wordt gedaan op het gebied van Personeel!
Voordat we afdwalen van het topic investeren in zowel personeel en 1 of 2 C-17's  is toch ook goed mede betaald door OSW en BZ zoals ik al eerder aangegeven heb!
Den Haag stop met afbreken van NL Defensie, en investeer in een eigen C-17.

DvdW

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jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter)

Citaat van: Lex op 19/12/2014 | 23:25 uur
Ik zie liever dat er een investering wordt gedaan op het gebied van Personeel!

En/en  ;D