Nieuw-Zeeland overweegt ook aanschaf C-17?

Gestart door andré herc, 14/01/2015 | 21:46 uur

Elzenga

Citaat van: Ace1 op 15/04/2015 | 22:00 uur
De keuze voor de C-17 door Nieuw-Zeeland is gemaakt omdat buurland Australie 6 C-17´s heeft en er nog 2 bijgekocht heeft.
Begrijpelijk...

Ace1

Citaat van: Elzenga op 15/04/2015 | 21:48 uur
de A400M ook....

De keuze voor de C-17 door Nieuw-Zeeland is gemaakt omdat buurland Australie 6 C-17´s heeft en er nog 2 bijgekocht heeft.

Elzenga

Citaat van: nzherald op 15/04/2015 | 18:33 uur
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Unlike the Hercules, the C-17 had capacity to transport an NH90-sized helicopter.
de A400M ook....

Ace1

Leasen zou ook nog een optie kunnen zijn zeg de pool van 500 uur per jaar van Sac op en en lease een C-17 en verkoop 2 C-130´s.

andré herc

Two new Boeing C-17s to cost NZDF $600m
 
Isaac Davison is a NZ Herald political reporter.
apr 15

Two new Boeing C-17 aircraft will set back the New Zealand Defence Force at least $600 million, the Government has been advised.

The Boeing C-17 Globemaster is being considered as a replacement for the aging fleet of Hercules C-130s, some of which are nearly 50 years old.

Members of the Foreign Affairs and Defence select committee took one of the Australian Defence Force's C-17s for a test run in February.

In a report released last week, the committee said that the cost of two of the C-17s would be "a minimum of $600 million, with an operating cost of $20,000 per hour".

It said the C-17s would be a "desirable acquisition" and noted that there were only eight to 10 of the aircraft left for sale.

MPs on the committee sought advice on how money could be found to purchase the aircraft and whether it was practical to replace five Hercules with two Globemasters.

"We learned that the purchase has been provided for in the Defence Midpoint Rebalancing Review, and the possibility of making the funds available earlier is being considered," the report said.

Secretary of Defence Helene Quilter told the committee that any purchase of C-17s might not be a "complete replacement" for the Hercules and the two types of aircraft could possible operate side by side.

The Ministry of Defence was analysing information from Boeing on the price and availability of the aircraft, and it was also working with its Australian counterparts to determine whether it would offset some of the C-17's operating costs.

Around $50 million of the $300 million price tag was believed to be for operating costs and replacement parts.

Defence Minister Gerry Brownlee said last month the C-17 was one of several large military aircraft being considered to assist with the Defence's Force airlift capacity.

Mr Brownlee said any decisions about military acquisitions needed to be made carefully.

He said the NH90 helicopters purchased by the previous government for $770 million had proven to be a "challenging piece of kit" because they were difficult to transport.

The minister made the comments after the NZDF was unable to take the NH90s to Vanuatu after Cyclone Pam because they were not cleared for island-hopping and were vulnerable to sea spray if transported by ship.

The NH90s are currently being used in a search and rescue training exercise in Marlborough.

Air Force chief Mike Yardley said they were a "highly capable aircraft".

"This aircraft is well suited to the wide range of work the Air Force carries out with Police, Civil Defence and the Department of Conservation," he said.

Unlike the Hercules, the C-17 had capacity to transport an NH90-sized helicopter.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11433122
Den Haag stop met afbreken van NL Defensie, en investeer in een eigen C-17.

andré herc

Did cyclone Pam make a case for C17s?

The belated dispatch of HMNZS Canterbury, along with the outages striking the air force's venerable C130H Hercules in the post-Cyclone Pam response, highlighted the need for our Defence Force to have sea and airlift capabilities.

So, have we got the mix and balance right?

In light of the Government's all-too-obvious sales pitch for Boeing's C17, it worryingly shows how the current defence minister is ignoring National's own 2010 Defence White Paper, which splits strategic lift between air and sea.

It also outlines that decisions on replacing our C130H Hercules will be informed by a study ahead of the 2015 Defence White Paper, so where is it?

Voor veel meer! zie link

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/comment/67521021/Did-cyclone-Pam-make-a-case-for-C17s
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andré herc

Airbus has launched a hearts and minds campaign to make New Zealanders aware of what it has to offer the Royal NZ Air Force to replace its ageing Hercules.

The European plane maker is taking out a series of adverts in the Herald for its new A400M plane it hopes to pitch when tenders are sought. Adverts highlight the plane's capabilities ahead of what is shaping up as an intense, high-stakes battle between manufacturers when the RNZAF seeks tenders to replace five Hercules, now more than 50 years old. The two air force Boeing 757s are also due for replacement early next decade as part of a $1 billion-plus overhaul of the transport fleet.

Voor meer zie

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11423033
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andré herc

MPs have test-driven a $250 million aircraft as part of Government's quest to replace the Defence Force's ageing fleet of Hercules.

Members of Parliament's foreign affairs and defence committee took the Royal Australian Air Force's Boeing C-17 Globemaster for a two-hour trip between Wellington and Christchurch yesterday to get first-hand experience of its capabilities, which include a rapid 60-degree ascent.

The C-17 was in Wellington to deliver 50 tonnes of sandstone for an Australian World War I Memorial in the capital.

Defence Minister Gerry Brownlee said it was a good opportunity to learn more about the aircraft.
VOOR MEER ZIE LINK
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11403031&ref=rss
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Citaat van: Ace1 op 14/01/2015 | 22:13 uur
Heeft iemand enig idee wat Nieuw-Zeeland per jaar aan BNP besteed op defensiegebied ter vergelijking met Nederland?

1% GDP in 2013

Military expenditure (% of GDP)

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/MS.MIL.XPND.GD.ZS

Ace1

Heeft iemand enig idee wat Nieuw-Zeeland per jaar aan BNP besteed op defensiegebied ter vergelijking met Nederland?

andré herc

For some weeks now there has been controversy surrounding the replacement of the Air Force's ageing fleet of Hercules C-130 aircraft, the oldest of which will be 50 in April.

This is a weighty decision, the type of which is made only two or three times a century and will have implications for decades to come.

Most notably, Defence Minister Gerry Brownlee has apparently asked for costings for the massive Boeing C-17 Globemaster, a proven strategic airlifter, at a suggested cost per plane of $400 million.
voor meer zie link

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/64922221/weighing-up-the-alternatives-to-nzs-hercules-fleet
Den Haag stop met afbreken van NL Defensie, en investeer in een eigen C-17.