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#1
Defensie Nieuws & Media (Internationaal) / Re: Belgie (vervangings trajec...
Last post by Stoonbrace - Vandaag om 20:01Citaat van: Stoonbrace op 18/06/2023 | 12:45 uurBlijkbaar is SCAF een program of programs met een next generation Fighter en een compatibel unmanned/loyal wingman programma. Het is in dat laatste programma dat onze regering wil instappen. Nog steeds een idioot idee want het is een slippery slope richting de NGF en er zijn101 andere prioriteiten maar goed. Vertegenwoordigers van Airbus hebben blijkbaar een paar overtuigende punten gemaakt in een gesloten infosessie voor de commissie defensie.
Ik val in herhaling
#2
Nieuwe ontwikkelingen op Defensiegebied / Re: Internationale ontwikkelin...
Last post by Parera - Vandaag om 19:57US Navy to showcase container based missile platform in Denmark
According to information published by the Danish Armed Forces on May 2, 2024, the U.S. Navy has invited the media to witness the demonstration of a container-based missile platform at Almegaards Barracks. The event focuses on showcasing a long-range missile platform transported to the island of Bornholm.
Containerized long-range missile platforms are revolutionizing naval warfare, providing navies with a flexible and potent means of deploying firepower. The United States Navy has been actively testing such systems, including containerized launchers like the MK 70 Payload Delivery System, which is modeled on the MK 41 vertical launch system (VLS).
This system, housed in a standard shipping container, can launch missiles such as the SM-6 and Tomahawk, enhancing the capabilities of vessels like the Littoral Combat Ship (LCS)��.
Containerized missile systems offer versatility and practicality, allowing ships to quickly rearm by simply replacing spent containers with new ones, either stored on deck or below.
This approach enhances a ship's missile capacity, even enabling merchant vessels to potentially serve as "Q-ships," disguised as harmless cargo vessels but equipped with concealed missile systems��.
The containerized launchers also provide an opportunity for mobile coastal defense, with countries like China developing systems that can be mounted on commercial vessels or heavy trucks�.
The Royal Navy is also exploring the potential of containerized missile systems as a cost-effective way to enhance firepower, especially for a navy short on traditional warships and missile launchers��.
In recent testing, the USS Savannah successfully fired an SM-6 missile from a containerized system, highlighting the potential for integrating these systems into operational platforms and contributing to conventional naval battles�.
https://navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2024/may/14307-us-navy-to-showcase-container-based-missile-platform-in-denmark.html
According to information published by the Danish Armed Forces on May 2, 2024, the U.S. Navy has invited the media to witness the demonstration of a container-based missile platform at Almegaards Barracks. The event focuses on showcasing a long-range missile platform transported to the island of Bornholm.
Containerized long-range missile platforms are revolutionizing naval warfare, providing navies with a flexible and potent means of deploying firepower. The United States Navy has been actively testing such systems, including containerized launchers like the MK 70 Payload Delivery System, which is modeled on the MK 41 vertical launch system (VLS).
This system, housed in a standard shipping container, can launch missiles such as the SM-6 and Tomahawk, enhancing the capabilities of vessels like the Littoral Combat Ship (LCS)��.
Containerized missile systems offer versatility and practicality, allowing ships to quickly rearm by simply replacing spent containers with new ones, either stored on deck or below.
This approach enhances a ship's missile capacity, even enabling merchant vessels to potentially serve as "Q-ships," disguised as harmless cargo vessels but equipped with concealed missile systems��.
The containerized launchers also provide an opportunity for mobile coastal defense, with countries like China developing systems that can be mounted on commercial vessels or heavy trucks�.
The Royal Navy is also exploring the potential of containerized missile systems as a cost-effective way to enhance firepower, especially for a navy short on traditional warships and missile launchers��.
In recent testing, the USS Savannah successfully fired an SM-6 missile from a containerized system, highlighting the potential for integrating these systems into operational platforms and contributing to conventional naval battles�.
https://navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2024/may/14307-us-navy-to-showcase-container-based-missile-platform-in-denmark.html
#3
Defensie Nieuws & Media (Internationaal) / Re: Belgie (vervangings trajec...
Last post by Parera - Vandaag om 19:56Citaat van: Stoonbrace op Vandaag om 19:53Het gaat onze industrie blijkbaar vooral over de onbemande toestellen in het FCAS systeem. De Duitsers willen die ook compatibel met hun F-35's maken.
Dan word het een compleet ander verhaal natuurlijk. Dit is ook niet hoe de Belgische politiek het FCAS project in het begin aan gekondigd heeft, dat was meer van we stoppen in 2040 met de F-35 en gaan over op de FCAS.
De UCAS'en die samenwerken met de F-35 zijn zeer interessant, en dat zou ook voor NL interessant moeten kunnen zijn.
#4
Defensie Nieuws & Media (Internationaal) / Re: Belgie (vervangings trajec...
Last post by Stoonbrace - Vandaag om 19:53Het gaat onze industrie blijkbaar vooral over de onbemande toestellen in het FCAS systeem. De Duitsers willen die ook compatibel met hun F-35's maken.
#5
KM / Re: De marine van morgen
Last post by Parera - Vandaag om 19:24Ik vind die MQ-9 STOVL een geweldige kist, maar dit is niet weggelegd voor onze marine.
Ja het kan opstijgen / landen op een dek van 122 m (400 ft), maar dit is dan enkel in ISR modus dus zonder enige bewapening. Wil je de kist uitrusten met een goed pakket bewapening (12x Hellfire) dan heb je al 304 m lengte nodig (1000 ft). Vergeet ook niet dat die Amerikaanse LHD's een vliegdek hebben van ruim 250 m lengte!
De oplossing voor Nederland in flattops en UAV's ligt wat mij betreft in meer en kleinere UAV's eventueel ondersteund door een skijump gecombineerd met een soort catapult/ winch systeem. Dan kom je (maximaal) op UAV's vergelijkbaar met de Turkse TB3. Deze zijn geschikt voor schepen zoals de Spaanse Juan Carlos LHD met een vliegdek van 202.30 x 32 m. Het schip zelf is ruim 230 m lang.
Voor een kleiner schip ben je echt gebonden aan kleinere UAV's zoals de RQ-21 Blackjack of de nieuwe Intergrator ER. En ik zou er groot voorstander van zijn als we kiezen voor een of meerdere flattops dat we dan ook de Bell V-247 aankopen als VTOL UAV. Dat toestel kan alles wat we zoeken in een UAV, het kan opereren vanaf al onze schepen inclusief de fregatten maar het kan ook vuursteun geven aan land voor de mariniers of jagen op onderzeeboten.
Wat betreft STOVL zou ik het houden op inlichtingen verzamelen voor Nederland op dit moment. Voor aanvallen kan je dan terug vallen op loitering munitions ect.
Enkele jaren geleden heb ik contact gehad met Damen Naval en daar werd bevestigd dat alle modellen nog in de serie zitten alleen zijn ze niet allemaal even gedetailleerd uitgetekend en /of openbaar gemaakt.
Ja het kan opstijgen / landen op een dek van 122 m (400 ft), maar dit is dan enkel in ISR modus dus zonder enige bewapening. Wil je de kist uitrusten met een goed pakket bewapening (12x Hellfire) dan heb je al 304 m lengte nodig (1000 ft). Vergeet ook niet dat die Amerikaanse LHD's een vliegdek hebben van ruim 250 m lengte!
De oplossing voor Nederland in flattops en UAV's ligt wat mij betreft in meer en kleinere UAV's eventueel ondersteund door een skijump gecombineerd met een soort catapult/ winch systeem. Dan kom je (maximaal) op UAV's vergelijkbaar met de Turkse TB3. Deze zijn geschikt voor schepen zoals de Spaanse Juan Carlos LHD met een vliegdek van 202.30 x 32 m. Het schip zelf is ruim 230 m lang.
Voor een kleiner schip ben je echt gebonden aan kleinere UAV's zoals de RQ-21 Blackjack of de nieuwe Intergrator ER. En ik zou er groot voorstander van zijn als we kiezen voor een of meerdere flattops dat we dan ook de Bell V-247 aankopen als VTOL UAV. Dat toestel kan alles wat we zoeken in een UAV, het kan opereren vanaf al onze schepen inclusief de fregatten maar het kan ook vuursteun geven aan land voor de mariniers of jagen op onderzeeboten.
Wat betreft STOVL zou ik het houden op inlichtingen verzamelen voor Nederland op dit moment. Voor aanvallen kan je dan terug vallen op loitering munitions ect.
Citaat van: Harald op Vandaag om 16:53Bij de nieuwe Damen ontwerpen van de Enforcer klasse wordt geen flattop ontwerp getoond, maar dit zou best gedaan kunnen worden met bijvoorbeeld een ENF 15628 deze heeft een lengte van 156 meter, breedte van 28 meter. of 2 nog langere modellen, de 16728 of 18028
Enkele jaren geleden heb ik contact gehad met Damen Naval en daar werd bevestigd dat alle modellen nog in de serie zitten alleen zijn ze niet allemaal even gedetailleerd uitgetekend en /of openbaar gemaakt.
#6
Nieuwe ontwikkelingen op Defensiegebied / Re: Leopard 3
Last post by Zander - Vandaag om 17:06Citaat van: Huzaar1 op Vandaag om 05:48Een ander kanon voor FRA en een ander voor DLD is niet zo gek.Inderdaad, zolang we maar niet verschillende moeren en bouten gaan gebruiken.
Het basisvoertuig moet gewoon het zelfde zijn.
Een kanon of ander boordwapen mag best verschillen.
Het zou wel een mooi moment zijn om gelijkwaardige comms aan te gaan schaffen. Als we dat op elkaar kunnen laten aansluiten hebben we ook al een aardige slag te pakken.
#7
KM / Re: De marine van morgen
Last post by Harald - Vandaag om 16:53Als men dit soort activiteiten/ operaties bij de NL-KM wil gaan doen, zal er toch serieus gekeken moeten worden naar grote vastvleugel UAV's en de wensen/eisen die daarmee gepaard gaat.
Kwa schiptype/ontwerp kom je dan gauw uit op een flattop.
Een Damen MPSS is eigenlijk te klein, eerder in de LPX topic is ook gesproken over de Endurance serie, een type als 160/170 zou denk ik prima voldoen.
https://navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/naval-exhibitions/2017-archives/imdex-asia-2017-show-daily-news/5257-imdex-asia-2017-st-marine-unveiled-the-endurance-170-lhd.html
CitaatEndurance 170 Landing Helicopter Dock (LHD) has a length of 170 meters, a breadth of 30.80 meters, a draft of 6.60 meters for a full load displacement of 19,000 tons.
Met een breedte van 30,8 meter kun je veel meer dan zoals 20 meter bij de MPSS. Als men een Flattop wil dan er in de breedte gekeken moeten worden en dat moet ook wel kunnen gezien dat de huidige LPD's Rotterdam en Johan de With, een breedte hebben van 27 en 29,2 meter.
Om dan naar NL maatstaven te kijken en te "shoppen" bij Damen dan kom je bij een Enforcer ontwerp
De oude Damen ontwerpen waren bijvoorbeeld de Enforcer 16000 of 18000, zie onderstaande afbeeldingen
Bij de nieuwe Damen ontwerpen van de Enforcer klasse wordt geen flattop ontwerp getoond, maar dit zou best gedaan kunnen worden met bijvoorbeeld een ENF 15628 deze heeft een lengte van 156 meter, breedte van 28 meter. of 2 nog langere modellen, de 16728 of 18028
https://www.damen.com/vessels/defence-and-security/landing-platform-dock-enforcers?view=models
15628
18028
#8
Defensie Nieuws & Media (Internationaal) / Re: Internationale fighter ont...
Last post by Sparkplug - Vandaag om 16:03Luftwaffe yet to decide on final Tornado replacement numbers
02 May 2024
by Gareth Jennings
A Luftwaffe Eurofighter on the flightline at the 2022 ILA Berlin Airshow. The service has told Janes that it does not yet know how many additional aircraft it will buy to replace the 90 Tornados being retired. (Janes/Gareth Jennings)
The German Luftwaffe has not yet determined how many new combat aircraft it is to acquire to replace its fleet of Panavia Tornados, a senior service official told Janes on 2 May.
Responding to a request for clarification and confirmation of the 85 new aircraft figure previously given by industry officials, Commanding General of Air Force Forces Command, Lieutenant General Günter Katz, said the Luftwaffe had never formally declared a one-for-one replacement of the Tornado, and that "a new target number does actually not exist".
The Luftwaffe currently fields 90 Tornado Interdiction Strike (IDS)/Electronic Combat Reconnaissance (ECR) aircraft that are to be retired in 2030. A revised request for proposals (RFP) was issued in 2019 to source one or more types to fulfil these roles. While industry officials briefed at the time that the requirement would cover 85 new aircraft, Lt Gen Katz said that the requirement is for "a number closer to the present Tornado fleet strength".
The service has already contracted 35 Lockheed Martin F-35A Lightning II and 15 retrofitted Eurofighter Elektronischer Kampf (EK) electronic attack (EA) aircraft to take on elements of the IDS and ECR roles respectively. However, while the F-35As will be additional airframes, the Eurofighter EKs will be existing airframes retrofitted with EA equipment.
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https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/luftwaffe-yet-to-decide-on-final-tornado-replacement-numbers
02 May 2024
by Gareth Jennings
A Luftwaffe Eurofighter on the flightline at the 2022 ILA Berlin Airshow. The service has told Janes that it does not yet know how many additional aircraft it will buy to replace the 90 Tornados being retired. (Janes/Gareth Jennings)
The German Luftwaffe has not yet determined how many new combat aircraft it is to acquire to replace its fleet of Panavia Tornados, a senior service official told Janes on 2 May.
Responding to a request for clarification and confirmation of the 85 new aircraft figure previously given by industry officials, Commanding General of Air Force Forces Command, Lieutenant General Günter Katz, said the Luftwaffe had never formally declared a one-for-one replacement of the Tornado, and that "a new target number does actually not exist".
The Luftwaffe currently fields 90 Tornado Interdiction Strike (IDS)/Electronic Combat Reconnaissance (ECR) aircraft that are to be retired in 2030. A revised request for proposals (RFP) was issued in 2019 to source one or more types to fulfil these roles. While industry officials briefed at the time that the requirement would cover 85 new aircraft, Lt Gen Katz said that the requirement is for "a number closer to the present Tornado fleet strength".
The service has already contracted 35 Lockheed Martin F-35A Lightning II and 15 retrofitted Eurofighter Elektronischer Kampf (EK) electronic attack (EA) aircraft to take on elements of the IDS and ECR roles respectively. However, while the F-35As will be additional airframes, the Eurofighter EKs will be existing airframes retrofitted with EA equipment.
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https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/luftwaffe-yet-to-decide-on-final-tornado-replacement-numbers
#9
Nieuwe ontwikkelingen op Defensiegebied / Re: Internationale ontwikkelin...
Last post by Harald - Vandaag om 12:11More SM-3 Interceptors Needed After Downing Iranian Ballistic Missiles: Navy Secretary
After SM-3 successfully engaged Iranian ballistic missiles, the Navy Secretary says more are needed than the dozen per year currently planned.
After seeing how well Standard Missile-3 (SM-3) anti-ballistic missile interceptors performed last month against Israel-bound Iranian ballistic missiles the Navy Secretary says he now wants more. Carlos Del Toro's testimony at Wednesday's Congressional budget hearing comes as the Pentagon's Missle Defense Agency (MDA) wants to end procurement of SM-3 Block IB variants by the end of this year and limit its buy of the follow-on Block IIAs to 12 per year through Fiscal Year 2029.
"I truly believe that the SM-3s will be needed in greater numbers in the future, given the operations that took place in defense of Israel," Del Toro testified during a House Armed Services subcommittee hearing. "Recently, some were fired. And very effectively. So I think given the future threat and our deterrence mission of the Indo-Pacific, we are going to need more SM-3s in the future."
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https://www.twz.com/sea/more-sm-3-interceptors-needed-after-downing-iranian-ballistic-missiles-navy-secretary
After SM-3 successfully engaged Iranian ballistic missiles, the Navy Secretary says more are needed than the dozen per year currently planned.
After seeing how well Standard Missile-3 (SM-3) anti-ballistic missile interceptors performed last month against Israel-bound Iranian ballistic missiles the Navy Secretary says he now wants more. Carlos Del Toro's testimony at Wednesday's Congressional budget hearing comes as the Pentagon's Missle Defense Agency (MDA) wants to end procurement of SM-3 Block IB variants by the end of this year and limit its buy of the follow-on Block IIAs to 12 per year through Fiscal Year 2029.
"I truly believe that the SM-3s will be needed in greater numbers in the future, given the operations that took place in defense of Israel," Del Toro testified during a House Armed Services subcommittee hearing. "Recently, some were fired. And very effectively. So I think given the future threat and our deterrence mission of the Indo-Pacific, we are going to need more SM-3s in the future."
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https://www.twz.com/sea/more-sm-3-interceptors-needed-after-downing-iranian-ballistic-missiles-navy-secretary
#10
Defensie Nieuws & Media (Internationaal) / Re: Internationale Helicopter ...
Last post by Harald - Vandaag om 12:09Secretive Long Range Attack Missile For Marine AH-1s Is Now Being Flight Tested
The Long Range Attack Missile, based on an unknown Air Force weapon, will help ensure Marine AH-1Zs stay relevant in future high-end fights.
The U.S. Marine Corps is transforming an unspecified U.S. Air Force missile into a weapon that will give its AH-1Z Viper attack helicopters the ability to strike moving targets on land and at sea 150 nautical miles away. This is exponentially further than the Vipers can reach with their existing air-to-surface munition options. The service has started flight testing this weapon, dubbed the Long Range Attack Missile (LRAM), and plans to conduct the first live-fire launch in Fiscal Year 2025.
Marine Col. Eric Ropella, head of Naval Air Systems Command's (NAVAIR) Expeditionary and Maritime Aviation-Advanced Development Team (XMA-ADT), shared new details about the secretive LRAM effort with The War Zone and other attendees at the annual Modern Day Marine exposition earlier today. The Marine Corps resides within the Department of the Navy and NAVAIR serves as the central manager for aviation and other related programs both services.
"So take everything that you know about an AH-1 and [the] ordnance that it can throw off of it, and exceed that range by a lot, and you will get LRAM," Ropella said by way of introduction.
"So, we're excited about that... we've flown with it, you know, attached to an [A]H-1 and the live fire testing will happen in [the] next fiscal year," he continued. "So, super excited to do that. I know a lot of H-1 test pilots that are fighting to be the one that gets to pull the trigger on that first test."
Specific details about the LRAM's capabilities are limited, but the Marine Crops has said in the past that it will have a maximum range of at least 150 nautical miles (just over 170 miles or nearly 278 kilometers) and will be capable of engaging moving land and sea targets. The air-to-ground missiles currently available to Marine AH-1Zs are the AGM-114 Hellfire and AGM-179 Joint Air-to-Ground Missile (JAGM), which have stated maximum ranges of just over 6 and 4 nautical miles (seven and five miles or just over 11 and 8 kilometers), respectively. JAGM manufacturer Lockheed Martin has been developing an extended-range version of that missile that has roughly twice the range of the baseline design, or around eight nautical miles (10 miles or 16 kilometers).
Marine AH-1Zs can also fire AIM-9M Sidewinder air-to-air missiles and they are set to get much more capable AIM-9Xs in the future. The AIM-9X has a roughly 17-nautical-mile (20 miles or just over 32 kilometers) stated maximum range — although most practical engagements would be significantly shorter than that — which still doesn't come close to what the Marines are looking at with LRAM.
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https://www.twz.com/air/secretive-long-range-attack-missile-for-marine-ah-1s-is-now-being-flight-tested
The Long Range Attack Missile, based on an unknown Air Force weapon, will help ensure Marine AH-1Zs stay relevant in future high-end fights.
The U.S. Marine Corps is transforming an unspecified U.S. Air Force missile into a weapon that will give its AH-1Z Viper attack helicopters the ability to strike moving targets on land and at sea 150 nautical miles away. This is exponentially further than the Vipers can reach with their existing air-to-surface munition options. The service has started flight testing this weapon, dubbed the Long Range Attack Missile (LRAM), and plans to conduct the first live-fire launch in Fiscal Year 2025.
Marine Col. Eric Ropella, head of Naval Air Systems Command's (NAVAIR) Expeditionary and Maritime Aviation-Advanced Development Team (XMA-ADT), shared new details about the secretive LRAM effort with The War Zone and other attendees at the annual Modern Day Marine exposition earlier today. The Marine Corps resides within the Department of the Navy and NAVAIR serves as the central manager for aviation and other related programs both services.
"So take everything that you know about an AH-1 and [the] ordnance that it can throw off of it, and exceed that range by a lot, and you will get LRAM," Ropella said by way of introduction.
"So, we're excited about that... we've flown with it, you know, attached to an [A]H-1 and the live fire testing will happen in [the] next fiscal year," he continued. "So, super excited to do that. I know a lot of H-1 test pilots that are fighting to be the one that gets to pull the trigger on that first test."
Specific details about the LRAM's capabilities are limited, but the Marine Crops has said in the past that it will have a maximum range of at least 150 nautical miles (just over 170 miles or nearly 278 kilometers) and will be capable of engaging moving land and sea targets. The air-to-ground missiles currently available to Marine AH-1Zs are the AGM-114 Hellfire and AGM-179 Joint Air-to-Ground Missile (JAGM), which have stated maximum ranges of just over 6 and 4 nautical miles (seven and five miles or just over 11 and 8 kilometers), respectively. JAGM manufacturer Lockheed Martin has been developing an extended-range version of that missile that has roughly twice the range of the baseline design, or around eight nautical miles (10 miles or 16 kilometers).
Marine AH-1Zs can also fire AIM-9M Sidewinder air-to-air missiles and they are set to get much more capable AIM-9Xs in the future. The AIM-9X has a roughly 17-nautical-mile (20 miles or just over 32 kilometers) stated maximum range — although most practical engagements would be significantly shorter than that — which still doesn't come close to what the Marines are looking at with LRAM.
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https://www.twz.com/air/secretive-long-range-attack-missile-for-marine-ah-1s-is-now-being-flight-tested