Spanning(en) rond Iran

Gestart door Lex, 14/02/2012 | 16:51 uur

Poleme

Beste admeur, ik ben absoluut geen sensatiefan ;)
Nulla tenaci invia est via - Voor de doorzetter is geen weg onbegaanbaar.

KapiteinRob

Citaat van: Poleme op 14/04/2012 | 21:01 uur
Spoedig zal jullie wereld er heel anders uit zien.  Wees niet bang, mijn lieve Kaakskoppen.

Inderdaad; de sensatiefans zullen zichzelf nog wel eens tegen kunnen komen.......

Poleme

Citaat van: Tanker op 14/04/2012 | 17:53 uur
Wanneer gaan we beginnen......
Binnen nu en 21 April wordt besloten om Iran aan te vallen!  Israel heeft geen groen licht nodig van Washington DC.  Deze beslissing wordt genomen in de Knesset.  Amerikanen moet je nooit vertrouwen!   Daarna is het up to the Kirya (Hoofdkwartier IDF in Tel Aviv)
Spoedig zal jullie wereld er heel anders uit zien.  Wees niet bang, mijn lieve Kaakskoppen.
Nulla tenaci invia est via - Voor de doorzetter is geen weg onbegaanbaar.

Lynxian

Citaat van: Marc66 op 14/04/2012 | 20:04 uur
En dan is de bezineprijs ook stukken lager, dussssss......................, 15 april, ban de tank-dag!

Kan je dit even in een eigen thread doen?

Marc66

En dan is de bezineprijs ook stukken lager, dussssss......................, 15 april, ban de tank-dag!

jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter)

Citaat van: Marc66 op 14/04/2012 | 19:34 uur
OPROEP!

Allen, tank morgen een dag niet, even geen bijna 2 euro (dat is bijna vijf GULDEN!) per liter betalen. Even een dag de tank boycotten, moet je opletten hoe snel de prijs van olie en daarmee benzine gaat zakken! Het dichtgooien van een Straat weegt echt niet op tegen het boycotten van een bezinestation voor een dag!

Ik doe al meer, ik fiets!


Dan is het maandag extra druk. (gelukkig zit mijn tak vol)

Marc66

OPROEP!

Allen, tank morgen een dag niet, even geen bijna 2 euro (dat is bijna vijf GULDEN!) per liter betalen. Even een dag de tank boycotten, moet je opletten hoe snel de prijs van olie en daarmee benzine gaat zakken! Het dichtgooien van een Straat weegt echt niet op tegen het boycotten van een bezinestation voor een dag!

Ik doe al meer, ik fiets!

KapiteinRob

Citaat van: jurrien visser op 14/04/2012 | 18:07 uur
Snacks: check
Biertjes/wijntje: check
CNN: check

Benzinetank gevuld: check
Zonnepanelen op het dak: check
Waterput geslagen: check
Noodrantsoenen op zolder: check
Munitievoorraad aangevuld: check

Okay, voorlopig alleen de tank gevuld....

jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter)

#323
We lijken naar de climax te gaan...

Snacks: check
Biertjes/wijntje: check
CNN: check

Tanker

Wanneer gaan we beginnen......

Lynxian

Oef, spannend! Zouden we dan toch eindelijk de klassieker US-Rusland krijgen?

Jah

BRUSSEL, zaterdag

In de aanloop naar de top over Iraans omstreden nucleaire installaties vandaag in Istanbul, hebben de Amerikanen jachtvliegtuigen, bommenwerpers, spionagetoestellen en vliegkampschepen naar de Perzische Golf gedirigeerd. Het net rond 'schurkenstaat' Iran is in recordtijd hermetisch gesloten.

Op bases in de Emiraten, Qatar, Bahrein en Koeweit staan grote aantallen U-2 spionagetoestellen, KC-10 tankers, B-1B bommenwerpers en complete squadrons Apache gevechtshelikopters en F-15 en F-16 jachtbommenwerpers.

Satellietfoto's van Al Dhafra Air Base in de Emiraten, Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar en Sheik Isa Air Base in Bahrein tonen tientallen op rij geparkeerde vliegtuigen. Naar Ali Al Salem, in de woestijn bij Koeweit-Stad, zijn onbemande Predators, Reapers en Global Hawks gestuurd.

Vliegkampschip

Om de opbouw van luchtstrijdkrachten compleet te maken, arriveerde donderdag een tweede vliegkampschip in de regio. Het is voor het eerst sinds de Golfoorlog van 2003 dat het Pentagon met twee 'carrier strike groups' actief is in de Perzische Golf. USS Abraham Lincoln patrouilleert zij aan zij met de eveneens nucleair aangedreven USS Enterprise in de wateren rondom Iran.

De vliegkampschepen hebben in totaal 180 toestellen aan boord, waaronder 76 F/A-18 Super Hornet jachtbommenwerpers.

Een Amerikaanse generaalmajoor op het NAVO-hoofdkwartier in Brussel verklaart tegenover deze krant dat een aanval op de nucleaire installaties van Iran minstens zeven dagen van intensief bombarderen inhoudt. Naast een belangrijke rol voor bondgenoot Israël zullen de Amerikanen het uitschakelen van de ondergrondse opwerkingsfabrieken zelf voor hun rekening nemen. Reden is dat alleen de US Air Force over de grote vliegtuigen beschikt die de zwaarste 'bunker busters' kunnen afwerpen.

,, B-1B's vanuit Qatar en B-52H's, die van overzee komen", aldus de Amerikaan. ,,De hoofdprijs, de scalp van de ayatollahs, ligt zestig meter diep in rotsen verscholen. Het gaat om de opwerkingsfabriek van Natanz in Centraal-Iran en de nieuwe Fordow-installatie voor het verrijken van uranium, noordelijk van heilige stad Qom. Daar draaien duizenden ultracentrifuges 24 uur per dag. Er is maar één wapensysteem dat honderd procent garantie biedt voor vernietiging van beide complexen."

De generaal refereert aan een speciale uitvoering van de 13.600 kilo zware Massive Ordnance Penetratorbom, bijgenaamd Big Blu.

Het projectiel heeft een raketvorm en boort zich ruim vijftig meter diep in rotsen of gewapend beton, voordat nog eens 2.400 kilo aan explosieven alles in de omgeving vernietigt.

Acht Big Blu's zijn volgens luitenant-kolonel Jack Miller van de Amerikaanse luchtmacht recent door fabrikant Boeing zo aangepast dat ze Natanz en de deels in de bergen verscholen installatie bij Fordow kunnen vernietigen. ,,Voor een prijskaartje van 32 miljoen dollar hebben we nu acht superbommen die elke klus klaren."

Onzichtbaar

De zes meter lange Big Blu's worden door B-2 Spirit intercontinentale zware bommenwerpers afgeworpen. Deze voor de radar vrijwel onzichtbare vliegende vleugels zijn gestationeerd bij de 509e bomb wing op Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri. De Amerikanen hebben twintig van de twee miljard dollar per stuk kostende vliegtuigen, ,,duurder dan goud."

De Amerikaanse generaalmajoor op het NAVO-hoofdkwartier: ,,B-2's hebben eerder al Taliban- en Al-Qaedaeenheden gebombardeerd, diep in de bergen van Afghanistan. Ze vliegen missies langer dan veertig uur, één keer in de lucht bijtanken is voldoende om de hele wereld te bestrijken. De crew bestaat uit twee piloten die elkaar afwisselen. Terwijl de een slaapt of eet, vliegt de ander. Tot beiden arriveren boven het doel, onzichtbaar op ruim vijftien kilometer hoogte. Als er een eenheid is die deze missie tot een goed einde weet te brengen, dan is het wel het 509e squadron."

Bron: Telegraaf


jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter)

Om het allemaal nog wat "spannender" te maken!

Russia Planning Troops Deployment On Iran's Northern Border And Waiting For A Western Attack

Saturday, 14 April 2012 13:16

By F. Michael Maloof 

April 12, 2012 "Information Clearing House"

WASHINGTON – The Russian military anticipates that an attack will occur on Iran by the summer and has developed an action plan to move Russian troops through neighboring Georgia to stage in Armenia, which borders on the Islamic republic, according to informed Russian sources.

Russian Security Council head Viktor Ozerov said that Russian General Military Headquarters has prepared an action plan in the event of an attack on Iran.

Dmitry Rogozin, who recently was the Russian ambassador to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, or NATO, warned against an attack on Iran.

"Iran is our neighbor," Rogozin said. "If Iran is involved in any military action, it's a direct threat to our security." Rogozin now is the deputy Russian prime minister and is regarded as anti-Western. He oversees Russia's defense sector.

Russian Defense Ministry sources say that the Russian military doesn't believe that Israel has sufficient military assets to defeat Iranian defenses and further believes that U.S. military action will be necessary.

The implication of preparing to move Russian troops not only is to protect its own vital regional interests but possibly to assist Iran in the event of such an attack. Sources add that a Russian military buildup in the region could result in the Russian military potentially engaging Israeli forces, U.S. forces, or both.

Informed sources say that the Russians have warned of "unpredictable consequences" in the event Iran is attacked, with some Russians saying that the Russian military will take part in the possible war because it would threaten its vital interests in the region.

The influential Russian Nezavisimaya Gazeta newspaper has quoted a Russian military source as saying that the situation forming around Syria and Iran "causes Russia to expedite the course of improvement of its military groups in the South Caucasus, the Caspian, Mediterranean and Black Sea regions."

This latest information comes from a series of reports and leaks from official Russian spokesmen and government news agencies who say that an Israeli attack is all but certain by the summer.

Because of the impact on Russian vital interests in the region, sources say that Russian preparations for such an attack began two years ago when Russian Military Base 102 in Gyumri, Armenia, was modernized. It is said to occupy a major geopolitical position in the region.

Families of Russian servicemen from the Russian base at Gyumri in Armenia close to the borders of Georgia and Turkey already have been evacuated, Russian sources say.

"Military Base 102 is a key point, Russia's outpost in the South Caucasus," a Russian military source told the newspaper. "It occupies a very important geopolitical position, but the Kremlin fears lest it should lose this situation."

With Vladimir Putin returning to the Russian presidency, the prospect that he again would order an attack on Georgia as he did in August 2008 also has become a possibility, these informed sources say.

The Russians believe that Georgia would cooperate with the United States in blocking any supplies from reaching Military Base 102, which now is supplied primarily by air. Right now, Georgia blocks the only land transportation route through which Russian military supplies could travel.

Fuel for the Russian base in Armenia comes from Iran. Russian officials believe this border crossing may be closed in the event of a war.

"Possibly, it will be necessary to use military means to breach the Georgian transport blockade and establish transport corridors leading into Armenia," according to Yury Netkachev, former deputy commander of Russian forces in Transcaucasia. Geography of the region suggests that any such supply corridor would have to go through the middle of Georgia approaching Georgia's capital of Tbilisi given the roads and topography of the country.

In September, the Russian military plans to hold its annual military exercises called Kavkaz 2012. However, informed Russian sources say that preparations and deployments of military equipment and personnel already have begun in anticipation of a possible war with Iran.

These sources report that new command and control equipment has been deployed in the region capable of using the Russian GPS system, GLONASS for targeting information.

"The air force in the South Military District is reported to have been rearmed almost 100 percent with new jets and helicopters," according to regional expert Pavel Felgenhauer of the Washington-based Jamestown Foundation.

In 2008, Felgenhauer pointed out, Kavkaz 2008 maneuvers allowed the Russian military to covertly deploy forces that successfully invaded Georgia in August of that year.

Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov already has announced that new Spetznaz, or Special Forces units, will be deployed in Stavropol and Kislovodsk, which are located in the North Caucasian regions.

Russian sources say that the Russian military believes that if the U.S. goes to war with Iran, it may deploy forces into Georgia and warships in the Caspian Sea with the possible help of Azerbaijan, which since has stated that it will not allow its territory to be used by Israel to launch an attack on neighboring Iran.

There had been speculation that given the improved relations between Israel and Azerbaijan, the Jewish state may use bases from which to launch air attacks on neighboring Iran's nuclear sites. Israel recently agreed to sell Azerbaijan $1.6 billion in military equipment.

A further irritant to Georgia's President Mikhail Saakashvili is the prospect that Russian assault airborne troops, or VDV units, with helicopters could be moved into Georgia's two breakaway provinces of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. These two provinces were taken by the Russian military during the August 2008 Russian-Georgian war. Initially they were declared by Moscow to be independent countries, but now the Kremlin is indicating they may be annexed to Russia.

Similarly, Lt. General Vladimir Shamanov, commander of the VDV, has announced that Russian troops in Armenia will be reinforced by paratroopers, along with attack and transport helicopters.

"The Russian spearhead (from the Transcaucasia region) may be ordered to strike south to prevent the presumed deployment of U.S. bases in Transcaucasia, to link up with the troops in Armenia and take over the South Caucasus energy corridor along which Azeri, Turkmen and other Caspian natural gas and oil may reach European markets," Felgenhauer said.

"By one swift military strike, Russia may ensure control of all the Caucasus and the Caspian states that were its former realm, establishing a fiat accompli the West, too preoccupied with Iran, would not reverse," he said.

"At the same time, a small victorious war would unite the Russian nation behind the Kremlin, allowing it to crush the remnants of the prodemocracy movement 'for fair elections,' and as a final bonus, Russia's military action could perhaps finally destroy the Saakashvili regime."

Putin has made no secret that he despises Saakashvili and with his return to the presidency, he may consider taking out the Georgian president as unfinished business. Just as in 2008, Putin will not have much to worry about if he sends Russian troops into Georgia, since there was muted reaction from the U.S. and the European countries to the Russian invasion and subsequent occupation.
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F. Michael Maloof, staff writer for WND's G2Bulletin, is a former senior security policy analyst in the Office of the Secretary of Defense.

http://hamsayeh.net/world/1728-russia-planning-troops-deployment-on-irans-northern-border-and-waiting-for-a-western-attack.html

jurrien visser (JuVi op Twitter)

WSJ(4/14)In War Against Iran, US Firepower Would Vie With Guerrilla Tactics

Saturday, Apr 14, 2012
(From THE WALL STREET JOURNAL)    By Nathan Hodge

Adm. Jonathan Greenert made an important observation last fall from the tower of the aircraft carrier USS John C. Stennis while in the Strait of Hormuz on the southern coast of Iran, the world's busiest oil-shipping lane.

The chief of naval operations was sailing in a flotilla that showed off the Navy's overwhelming power to strike at long distances: F-18 fighter jets, Tomahawk cruise missiles and deck guns able to fire a shell 15 miles.

Yet in the claustrophobic waters of the strait, which narrows to just 24 miles, Adm. Greenert noted that all that long-range firepower could potentially be countered by the Iranian patrol boats that came out to track the U.S. warships. Faced with a fight in close quarters, Adm. Greenert told a Senate panel recently, "You also may need a sawed-off shotgun."

As the U.S. and other Western powers prepare to meet Saturday in Istanbul with Iran to resume negotiations over its nuclear program, the U.S. military is sharpening its contingency planning. Advocates of peaceful engagement say economic sanctions against the Islamic regime are starting to bite, and are hopeful that Tehran will give up its uranium-enrichment program. Iran says the program is for use in electricity generation, but intelligence services say the regime is close to developing the capability of building a nuclear weapon. The Obama administration plays down the chances of a breakthrough at this meeting, the first face-to-face encounter between U.S. and Iranian diplomats in more than a year, saying the best outcome may be agreement for a second round.

Should all else fail and the U.S. or Israel decide to attack Iran, say analysts, they would face a miniature version of the U.S. military, circa 1975 -- sustained, barely, by a world-wide spare-parts bazaar. Experts say the Islamic Republic's claims of advanced weaponry -- such as armed, Predator-style drones -- are mere boasts.

Military officers and defense analysts say the U.S. could quickly overwhelm Iran's air defenses, leaving evenly spaced bomb craters, for example, on runways to disable Iranian air bases. Pinpoint airstrikes would attempt to destroy all Iran's known nuclear facilities -- a goal complicated by the fact that the regime has buried some of its production sites. The Pentagon is rushing to upgrade its largest conventional bomb to better penetrate fortified underground facilities.

Naval officers believe Iran would retaliate by waging the naval equivalent of guerrilla warfare in the Persian Gulf by mining the Strait of Hormuz or swarming U.S. naval vessels with small boats.

Such threats, so-called asymmetric warfare, could prove as dangerous and unpredictable as roadside bombs in Afghanistan or Iraq, with a low-cost mine potentially crippling or sinking a billion-dollar warship.

In such a scenario, the U.S. military would face a time-consuming and often perilous effort to reopen shipping lanes to international oil traffic.

"They have stayed true to their stripes," said a senior military officer in the Middle East. "They have always taken an asymmetric approach, going back to the '80s."

Before the 1979 Islamic Revolution, Iran had among the most formidable conventional arsenals in the region, equipped with modern weaponry sold to the Shah by U.S. defense firms.

Iran's military was later battered during eight years of war with Iraq in the 1980s. Iran has since cobbled together an array of weapons -- some homegrown but much acquired from China, North Korea and the former Soviet Union.

Iran has already threatened to block the Strait of Hormuz in response to tighter international sanctions. Military analysts now estimate Iran has amassed as many as 5,000 naval mines, ranging from rudimentary devices that explode on contact, to high-tech mines that, tethered to the seafloor, can identify the acoustic signature of specific types of ships and explode only under the richest targets.

Scott Truver, a mine warfare analyst, said finding and clearing Iranian mines would be a cat-and-mouse game for the Navy. Mine warfare, he said "is as tough and dangerous as the IEDs on land were. Mines are equally hard to detect, if not harder."

The U.S. Navy knows firsthand. In April 1988, the frigate USS Samuel B. Roberts struck an Iranian mine, which blew a hole the size of a pickup truck in the hull, and nearly sank the ship. The U.S. retaliated by attacking two Iranian oil platforms and sinking several Iranian vessels.

Among the newest threats are sophisticated torpedoes Iran acquired from Russia that can home in on the turbulence of a ship's wake and aren't easily fooled by the decoys commonly used by warships.

Military planners worry about torpedoes launched from Iran's three Russian-built Kilo submarines, as well as approximately four North Korean Yono-class mini-submarines, the class of vessel that sank a South Korean warship in 2010, killing 46 sailors.

Iran's mini-subs cannot range far or stay long under water. But in the close quarters of the Strait of Hormuz, they could be easily positioned for attacks.

Iran also is known for its fleet of hundreds of small speedboats that can carry everything from machine guns to large antiship missiles. While a single speedboat may not imperil a warship, a swarm of small boats could overwhelm a larger ship's defenses. In early 2008, a cluster of Iranian patrol boats sailed close to a convoy of U.S. warships. No shots were fired, but the provocation underscored potential dangers.

Conventional naval vessels aren't the only concern. Iran can deploy mines or even missiles from merchant vessels, or dhows. Such threats would be nearly impossible to spot in the crowded shipping lanes of the Persian Gulf.

Ten years ago, the Rumsfeld-era Pentagon held a top-secret war game to test a Persian Gulf scenario. A maverick Marine Corps general, Lt. Gen. Paul Van Riper, led the "Red Team," the fictional Iranian adversary. Gen. Van Riper relayed orders to his front-line troops by motorcycle messenger, so the U.S. couldn't hack into his networks; he sent out speedboats armed with missiles and explosives to swarm U.S. warships. After the fictional smoke cleared, more than a dozen U.S. warships were at the bottom of the Persian Gulf.

That exercise, known as Millennium Challenge, was a wake-up call about the potential of asymmetric warfare. The Navy has since unveiled plans to boost the defenses of its ships in the Gulf.

Adm. Greenert said the Navy is interested in new robotic underwater vehicles that can search for mines and submarines and improved Gatling guns to counter Iranian small-boat attacks. The Navy has rushed to test and field a new antitorpedo torpedo -- a weapon that would potentially counter Iran's more sophisticated torpedoes.

The Navy recently announced plans to double its fleet of Avenger-class minesweeping ships in the Persian Gulf.

The U.S. military is taking other steps. Earlier this year, the Pentagon unveiled plans to refit a transport ship as a staging platform for different kinds of missions, from countering mines to launching remotely piloted aircraft. It also could be used as a platform for launching commando operations with small patrol boats to intercept Iranian vessels, escort ships or protect oil platforms.

Beyond the waters of the Persian Gulf, military planners worry about Iran's expanding arsenal of ballistic missiles, built with North Korean cooperation and know-how. The Defense Department estimates Iran has around 1,000 short- and long-range missiles that can travel from 90 to 1,200 miles, the largest inventory in the Middle East.

The longer-range Shahab-3, which could reach Israel, has received the most attention. But Iran's shorter-range Scuds are on mobile platforms, allowing them to more easily evade detection.

Within striking distance of Iranian missiles are U.S. Army installations in Kuwait, a command post in Qatar, and the U.S. Fifth Fleet in Bahrain.

While relatively inaccurate, those missiles may have the potential to strike panic or provoke a wider war if they hit U.S. allies in the region. A retired Navy officer said the missiles don't have sophisticated targeting but could score a blind hit on a Saudi oil field, a Qatari gas production facility or a city in the United Arab Emirates. "Face it, how accurate does it need to be?" he said.

Officials with Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards threaten reprisals against any country used as a launch pad for strikes against Iran. A conflict with Iran, then, could be a real-world test for U.S. missile-defense plans. As part of a shift from Bush-era missile defense, which focused on defending U.S. territory from a long-range missile attack, the Obama administration has sought defenses against shorter-range Iranian missiles targeting U.S. troops overseas, as well as allies.

There is also a presumed terror threat. Iran's Ministry of Intelligence and Security could activate so-called sleeper agents for acts of sabotage or terror attacks, according to U.S. officials. Militants sponsored or trained by Iran might attack U.S. diplomatic facilities in Iraq or bases in the Middle East.

"The assumption is that there are sleeper cells all around that would be activated in some way," said retired Marine Corps Gen. Anthony Zinni, the former head of U.S. Central Command, the U.S. military headquarters that oversees the region.

Military professionals generally agree that U.S. forces would quickly overwhelm Iran's air defenses. Former Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. T. Michael Moseley, an architect of the shock-and-awe air campaign against Saddam Hussein in 2003, said a U.S. air campaign could inflict "a sense of strategic paralysis" on Iran's air defenses by targeting command-and-control facilities, early warning radars and airfields.

But, Gen. Moseley said, Iran's air-defense system -- comprised of mostly older U.S. Hawk missiles and some surface-to-air missiles of Soviet design -- was "not a trivial" threat to U.S. aircraft. "Anything that shoots at you merits some respect," he said.

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http://uk.zawya.com/story/ZW20120414000012/In-war-against-Iran-scenario/

Jah

Iran claims arrest of terror operatives tied to Israel

Official Iranian media reports "major terrorist group from the Zionist regime" uncovered and several members arrested "while preparing to carry out terrorist acts"; bombs, machine guns reportedly seized.

DUBAI - Iran said on Tuesday it had identified a "major terrorist group" it said was affiliated to its arch-foe Israel and had arrested some of its members, the official IRNA news agency reported, citing a report by the country's Intelligence Ministry.
"Iran's Intelligence Ministry announced it has identified a major terrorist group from the Zionist regime (of Israel) and has arrested some of its protected operational members inside the country," IRNA reported without making clear when the arrests had taken place.

The semi-official Fars news agency said the suspects were arrested "while preparing to carry out terrorist acts", adding that a considerable number of bombs, machine guns, military and communication equipments were seized.
Tehran has in the past accused Israel of being behind the killings of its nuclear scientists.

The Islamic state blamed Israel in January when a nuclear scientist was killed by a bomb placed on his car by a motorcyclist in Tehran.
Iran denies Western suspicions that its nuclear program has military goals, saying it is for purely peaceful purposes.
Fars cited the Intelligence Ministry's statement as saying that further information would be announced later.

http://www.jpost.com/IranianThreat/News/Article.aspx?id=265563