Z-Koreaans marineschip gezonken; de gevolgen voor de regio

[Nikehercules]

Best een leuk ding om te zien met die 4 kanons.

Maar wat mij opvalt is dat het schip er volgens het bericht een uur over heeft gedaan om te zinken.
Nou heb ik wel is ooit filmpjes gezien van schepen die getorpedeerd worden, en in die gevallen was het toch een stuk sneller gepiept.
Iemand die hier iets zinnigs over kan zeggen?

[Elzenga]

Cheonan (PCC-772) uit de Pohang klasse in betere tijden...
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2918409

[Lex]

Wat dacht je van de ORBAT van N-Korea?

[Laurens]

Goeiendag zeg...kijk eens op de wiki. Die Z-Koreanen hebben nog eens een echte vloot 

[Lex]

Als het inderdaad dit schip is gaat het dus om een ASW type...uit de hand gelopen kat-en-muis-spel met een Noord-Koreaanse onderzeeboot?

Dat is gissen. Er wordt gesproken over een explosie in het achterschip.
Met een PHS-32 sonar (hull-mounted) zou een eventuele sigaar in de blinde zone hebben gezeten.

De Zuid-Koreaanse TV spreekt nu ook over Cheonan in haar uitzendingen; er zal dus wel een kern van waarheid inzitten vwb de naam.

[Elzenga]

Volgens diverse media berichten in ZO Azië gaat het om: Cheonan (PCC-772) uit de Pohang klasse.
Dit is echter nog nergens officieel bevestigd.

The ASW type consist of 20 ships (761-785), which have 2 OTO Melara 76mm guns, 2 Breda 40mm guns, sonar(PHS-32), 6 torpedos, 12 depth charges but no SSM.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/rok/pohang.htm

Als het inderdaad dit schip is gaat het dus om een ASW type...uit de hand gelopen kat-en-muis-spel met een Noord-Koreaanse onderzeeboot?

[Lex]

Volgens diverse media berichten in ZO Azië gaat het om: Cheonan (PCC-772) uit de Pohang klasse.
Dit is echter nog nergens officieel bevestigd.

Gegevens volgens Wikipedia:

Pohang class corvette
•   Builders: South Korea
•   Displacement: 1,350 tons
•   Armament: 2 OTO Mellara(76mm)/62 compact, 2 Breda 40mm/70, 4 RGM-84D Harpoon SSM, 2 MM-38 Exocet, MK-46 mod 2
•   Sonar : Signall PHS-32 Hull mounter sonar
•   Speed: 32 knots
•   Range: 5,000 at 15 knots
•   Ships in class: 24
•   Operators: Republic of Korea Navy
•   Commissioned: 1 January 1985

[Elzenga]

Als ik de gegevens van de Zuid-Koreaanse marine check vermoed ik dat het hier om een Pohang class korvet gaat...waarvan men er 24 heeft.

[Lex]

SKorea navy ship sinking in waters near NKorea

SEOUL, South Korea – South Korea's military scrambled naval vessels to the western waters near the disputed maritime border with North Korea late Friday after an explosion ripped a hole in the bottom of a military ship, officials and news reports said.

The ship — reported to have 104 crew on board — began sinking off the coast of South Korean-controlled Baengnyeong Island close to North Korea around 10:45 p.m. (1345 GMT, 9:45 a.m. EDT), an official at the Joint Chiefs of Staff said, speaking on condition of anonymity in line with department policy.

He said the exact cause was not immediately clear. South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported an explosion in the rear of the 1,200-ton ship, but the official said he could not confirm the report.

Minutes later, Yonhap reported that another South Korean ship fired shots toward an unidentified target in the direction of North Korea. The Joint Chiefs official said he could not confirm the shooting but said the military was strengthening its vigilance in the area.

The incident comes amid heightened tension between the two Koreas, which remain in a state of war because their three-year conflict ended in a truce, not a peace treaty, in 1953.

President Lee Myung-bak convened an emergency meeting of security-related ministers, Yonhap said, citing presidential spokeswoman Kim Eun-hye.

Six naval ships and two coast guard vessels were rushed to the waters to rescue the crew of 104 on board the sinking ship, Yonhap said. More than 50 had been saved so far, the report said.

AP, 26 march 2010

[VandeWiel]

A South Korean naval ship with more than 100 on board was sinking after a suspected torpedo attack by North Korea today.
The South Korean navy has shot at an unidentified ship in the direction of North Korea in apparent retaliation.
South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff said that it is not clear what caused the ship to sink.
A rescue operation is under way to save crew members on board but many sailors were feared dead on the stricken ship.

The dramatic escalation between the two countries comes after North Korea has warned that  it was bolstering its defences in response to joint South Korean-U.S. military drills that were held this month.

North Korea had already threatened 'unprecedented nuclear strikes' against its southern neighbour and the U.S over claims they are planning to topple the communist regime.

Military chiefs hit out after talks were scheduled between America, South Korea and former ally China over how to deal with an emergency in the North.

They also said claims that a report had been commissioned was evidence of 'desperate moves of the U.S. imperialists and the South Korean puppet warmongers' for regime change.

North Korea's General Staff said the country's communist system was a 'impregnable fortress' and described expectations of collapse as 'a pipe dream of a lunatic wishing for the sky to fall'.


'Those who seek to bring down the system, whether they play a main role or a passive role, will fall victim to the unprecedented nuclear strikes of the invincible army,' they said.

Dictator Kim Jong-Il has become increasingly paranoid in recent years and fears that his ill-health could lead to a coup.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1260975/BREAKING-NEWS-South-Korean-ship-100-board-sinking-torpedo-attack-North-Korea.html

[VandeWiel]

North Korea warned today that it might launch a nuclear attack on the United States and South Korea in remarks reacting to a newspaper report that the two nations were planning their response to potential turmoil in the Stalinist state, the Associated Press reported (see GSN, March 23).
"Those who seek to bring down the system in the (North) ... will fall victim to the unprecedented nuclear strikes of the invincible army," the North Korean military said in a statement to the official Korean Central News Agency that referenced an article in last week's Dong-a Ilbo newspaper.

Dit bericht had ik eerst als standaard afgedaan, maar in combinatie met mogelijke schermutselingen wordt het ineens wat anders...

[VandeWiel]

North Korea warned today that it might launch a nuclear attack on the United States and South Korea in remarks reacting to a newspaper report that the two nations were planning their response to potential turmoil in the Stalinist state, the Associated Press reported (see GSN, March 23).

"Those who seek to bring down the system in the (North) ... will fall victim to the unprecedented nuclear strikes of the invincible army," the North Korean military said in a statement to the official Korean Central News Agency that referenced an article in last week's Dong-a Ilbo newspaper.

Such rhetoric is normal for Pyongyang, AP reported. The Stalinist state is thought to have enough plutonium to produce a minimum of 6 nuclear bombs and carried out its second nuclear test last year. However, North Korea is not believed to have yet developed the ability to mount a nuclear weapon on a long-range missile.

The Dong-a Ilbo reported that experts from China, South Korea and the United States would hold meetings in April in China to exchange intelligence on the North, examine potential scenarios that could occur there and weigh options for collaborating in the event of a crisis. Additional meetings on the matter would be held this summer, the newspaper said.

The eading U.S. military officer on the Korean Peninsula told the U.S. House Appropriations Committee on Wednesday that the potential for a crisis in North Korea is a serious issue.

"The possibility of a sudden leadership change in the North could be destabilizing and unpredictable," Gen. Walter Sharp said (Kwang-Tae Kim, Associated Press/Yahoo!News , March 26).


http://www.globalsecuritynewswire.org/gsn/nw_20100325_8787.php

[Lex]

(3rd LD) S. Korean Navy ship sinking in Yellow Sea

(ATTN: UPDATES with emergency meeting of security-related ministers in final para)

SEOUL, March 26 (Yonhap) -- A South Korean Navy ship with 104 crew members on board was sinking off the Seoul-controlled island of Baengnyeong in the Yellow Sea, near North Korea, Navy officials said Friday.

   The 1,500-ton ship sank between 9:00 p.m. and 10:00 p.m. near the island, but the cause of the accident was unknown, the officials said. A rescue operation was underway, they added.

   There were no immediate reports of casualties, they said, adding there was an unspecified explosion in the rear of the ship.

   The South Korean government has convened an emergency meeting of security-related ministers, according to the officials.

  (END) <Copyright(c) 2005 YonhapNews.> [2010-03-26 23:30 ]

[Lex]

Een Zuid-Koreaans marineschip met meer dan honderd man aan boord was vrijdag zinkende. Volgens de Zuid-Koreaanse televisie wordt onderzocht of het schip is getorpedeerd door Noord-Korea.

Het persbureau Yonhap meldde intussen dat een Zuid-Koreaanse marineschip het vuur heeft geopend op een niet geïdentificeerd schip nabij de grens met Noord-Korea.

Telegraaf, vr 26 mrt 2010, 15:45