Duitsland kiest voor raketafweerschild, zullen andere landen deelnemen ?

[Harald]

Israel and Germany discuss with US for acquisition of Arrow 3 air defense missile systems

According to information published by the "CTECH" website on October 31, 2022, currently, the United States Department of Defense discusses with Israel and Germany regarding the approval for the sale of the Arrow 3 air defense missile system. The United States will be able to accept the sale following the situation in Ukraine and the threats from Russia.

The Arrow 3 air defense system is jointly developed by Israel and the United States and must be approved by both countries before any sales. For this acquisition, Germany will be the leading country for this purchase for an amount of ?2 billion.

This acquisition could be part of the European development of a new joint air defense program under the name of the European Sky Shield Initiative, which will involve 14 NATO member countries and Finland. The deal is estimated at around ?2 billion and it could even reach ?3 billion, citing information from the "CTECH" website.

On October 13, 2022, Defense Ministers from 14 NATO Allies and Finland were together in Brussels to sign a Letter of Intent for the development of a ?European Sky Shield Initiative?. Spearheaded by Germany, the initiative aims to create a European air and missile defense system through the common acquisition of air defense equipment and missiles by European nations. This will strengthen NATO?s Integrated Air and Missile Defense.

On September 30, 2022, the Army Recognition editorial team reported that Israeli Defense Minister Benny Gantz discussed with the German Ministry of Defense Christine Lambrecht about the sale of the Israeli-made Arrow-3 air defense missile system.

The Arrow-3 interceptor was designed to provide another layer of defense against ballistic missiles, to add interception opportunities to Israel's Arrow Weapon System, and to improve the active defense architecture of the State of Israel against missile threats.

An Arrow 3 long-range anti-ballistic missile battery includes the ELM-2084 Super Green Pine warning and fire control radar developed by IAI?s Elta Systems, the Citron Tree Battle Management Center, and Hazelnut Tree Launcher Control Center developed by Elbit Systems. The new radar EL/M-2084 has both improved range and resolution by up to 50%. The Golden Citron Battle Management Center made by Elbit Systems also received significant new capabilities.

Arrow 3 should be able to intercept ballistic missiles, especially those carrying weapons of mass destruction, at altitudes of over 100 km, and with a reported range of up to 2,400 km.

http://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_october_2022_global_security_army_industry/israel_and_germany_discuss_with_us_for_acquisition_of_arrow_3_air_defense_missile_systems.html

[Harald]

European Market Still Beckons, If Washington Allows

The strengthened relations between Israel and its regional neighbors has opened up one potentially large market for Israeli weapons. Russia's invasion of Ukraine, and the subsequent massive spike in defense spending in Europe, has created another. But once again, Washington will have a say, particularly in the lucrative realm of air defense technologies.

Given its precarious position in the region, Israel has long been a global leader on air defense systems, something Russia's invasion has made a priority for almost every NATO nation. However, several of the key systems used by Israel were co-funded with money from Washington, giving the US a veto over whether they can be exported or not.

While Washington would likely, from a geopolitical stance, be happy to see European nations building out their air defenses, American industry would surely prefer to sell its domestic equipment instead. In order to get a sense of what may be allowed, the Israeli ministry of defense in the next few weeks will try to get indications of possible American reactions to queries already submitted by a number of European countries.

In particular, the new European Sky Shield initiative, announced Oct. 13, will see 15 European nations come together to jointly invest in air defense capabilities that should, on paper, create a network of air defenses that cross significant chunks of Europe. Led by Germany, the effort will include Belgium, Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Finland, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, the Netherlands, Norway, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, and the United Kingdom.

Germany is already in discussions with Israel over the Arrow 3 system. Produced by Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) with funding from the US, the Arrow 3 is targeted at ballistic missile defense. Sources say Washington has already given its tacit approval for a sale to Germany if Berlin and Jerusalem can come to terms.

But the creation of the new Sky Shield network opens up new opportunities for different levels of air and missile defense. The lowest tier is Rafael's "Iron Dome" which has intercepted thousands of short and medium-range rockets launched in recent years from Gaza. One layer above is the Rafael-Raytheon David's Sling system, designed to intercept longer-range rockets and cruise missiles. The Arrow 2 and 3 represent the upper layers of a system that is designed to defend Israel from rockets and missiles. All three layers have received US funding.

According to a senior defense industry source, the European initiative creates a big potential for the Israeli systems but "the way to contracts will be very, very complicated."

That's due to industrial pressures both in the US and in the European countries themselves, said Uzi Rubin, the former head of the Israel missile defense directorate in the Ministry of Defense.

"Some European countries like France have ballistic missile defense systems under development, others don't have these even on paper," he told Breaking Defense. "The best thing for Israel will be to sign the deal to sell the Arrow -3 to Germany. After this is accomplished, it will be easier to convince other alliance members to evaluate the system."

Rubin added that American companies that have developed systems to intercept ballistic missiles will put heavy pressure of Washington to use its influence to make the European countries buy American-made systems.

Another Israeli expert who spoke with Breaking Defense on condition of anonymity said that in the new European initiative, there are different operational needs spread across different countries, meaning there won't be much chance for Israel to make a one-size-fits-all deal.

"It is not that all the participating countries will go for the same systems. And even after they decide [what to buy], combined purchases of some countries together are not realistic. The Israeli companies will have to work hard to persuade the Europeans to buy their systems," the expert said.

However, the expert predicted, high-end radars from Israel might be the easiest thing to sell, even if the missile interception systems themselves take longer.

https://breakingdefense.com/2022/10/israel-backing-off-saudi-arm-sale-hopes-turning-eyes-to-europe/

[Harald]

Wordt het Duitse initiatief nu uitgebreid en het Europeese Sky Shield project, dus door meerdere landen gedragen ?
en ook een meer overlappend, layerd luchtverdedigings project, dus het combineren van short, medium, long en Ballistic onder 1 samenwerkingsband.

Germany, NATO allies aim to jointly procure air defence systems

Germany and more than a dozen NATO partners aim to jointly procure air defence systems that protect allied territory from missiles, eyeing Israel's Arrow 3 system, U.S. Patriot and German IRIS-T units among the options, Berlin said on Thursday.

"With this initiative, we are living up to our joint responsibility for security in Europe - by bundling our resources," German Defence Minister Christine Lambrecht said during a ceremony at NATO's Brussels headquarters where 14 countries signed a letter of intent.

Estonia wasn't present at the event but will also be part of the initiative, dubbed "European Sky Shield". In total it comprises half of NATO's members - including Germany, Britain, Slovakia, Norway, Latvia, Hungary, Bulgaria, Belgium, Czechia, Finland, Lithuania, the Netherlands, Romania and Slovenia.

Ground-based air defence systems such as Raytheon's (RTX.N) Patriot units or the more recently developed IRIS-T are in short supply in many Western nations, which were reluctant to invest too much money in military capabilities after the end of the Cold War.

Russia's war in Ukraine has cast a spotlight on the shortage, as Kyiv scrambles to acquire as many air defence units as it can to protect cities and critical infrastructures from Russian air attacks.

Lambrecht said countries were seeking to quickly move on the first deals.

"We will work speedily on the first joint projects, the joint purchase of Patriot units is one of them as well as of the modern system IRIS-T," she told reporters. IRIS-T is built by German defence company Diehl.

Berlin this week delivered the first of four IRIS-T SLM systems to Ukraine but Germany's own Bundeswehr armed forces does itself not have the system in inventory. At the same time, Berlin wants to ramp up the number of Patriot units it has.

While Patriot and IRIS-T cover the medium layer of air defence, countries will also discuss procuring systems for the higher layer, such as Arrow 3 produced by Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) (ISRAI.UL), and short-range systems designed to protect smaller areas or military convoys, for example.

"We need to fill these gaps quickly, we are living in threatening, dangerous times," Lambrecht said, who also signalled that she would prefer to buy Arrow 3 for the higher layer.

"No decision has been taken yet but I think it (Arrow 3) would be the right system,...that it would be a very good system for the challenge in Europe," she noted.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/germany-13-nato-allies-aim-jointly-procure-air-defence-systems-2022-10-13/

[Harald]

Germany's interest in Arrow 3 could presage European defense bonanza for Israel

Germany is in talks to purchase the IAI-built Arrow 3 ballistic missile defense system, according to a new report.

With Germany now reportedly in talks to buy Israeli-made air defense systems, there is hope inside Israeli defense firms that a new spending-splurge on defense equipment may be coming from Europe. But the firms are also keeping a wary eye on what pressure Washington may bring to the European nations to instead buy American.

In public comments while meeting with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz Sept. 12, Israeli Prime Minister Yair Lapid declared that Israel "will be part of the construction of Germany's new defense force, mainly in the field of air defense. Scholz, for his part, called the Arrow 3 a "high-performance offer;" a German source told Reuters that there is a "plan" to buy Arrow 3 but that specifics have not been worked out.

Such a sale, if it happens, would be the first time Israel has exported the Arrow to another country. And given Germany's central role in Europe and the continents defense spending increase in the wake of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, a deal could potentially drive other nations interested in integrating on air defense with Berlin to also purchase the system.

Produced by Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) with funding from the US, the Arrow 3 is targeted at ballistic missile defense. Because the US provides money, it can veto any export of the system, but sources here say Washington has given its tacit approval for a sale to Germany if Berlin and Jerusalem can come to terms.

One Israeli senior defense official said that other European countries are already in negotiations with the Israeli ministry of defense and defense industries about systems that can upgrade their capability to defend themselves from Russian missiles. While air defense is the priority, other systems are also on the hastily prepared shopping list.

The senior source added that Poland, Romania and at least some of the Scandinavian countries are already talking with "the right people" in Israel about fast acquisitions.

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https://breakingdefense.com/2022/09/germanys-interest-in-arrow-3-could-presage-european-defense-bonanza-for-israel/

[Zander]

Club die dienst draagt voor raketparaplu b.v.

Dus dit.
Gefinancierd en onderhouden door Europa ipv de lidstaten.

[Huzaar1]

Wat versta je onder deze Europese nationale garde? Het Europese equivalent van de Army National Guard of bedoel je iets compleet anders?

Club die dienst draagt voor raketparaplu b.v.

[Sparkplug]

Ik ben echter wel van mening dat dit een ding is dat door een soort van Europese nationale garde o.i.d. moet worden bemenst en gecoördineerd.

Wat versta je onder deze Europese nationale garde? Het Europese equivalent van de Army National Guard of bedoel je iets compleet anders?

[Huzaar1]

Wordt tijd dat Europa dit soort zaken regelt. Ik ben echter wel van mening dat dit een ding is dat door een soort van Europese nationale garde o.i.d. moet worden bemenst en gecoördineerd.

Ik ook. Er zijn daarvoor meer stappen nodig, maar het is wel duidelijk dat we als continent zulke strategische zaken moeten gaan regelen.

[Zander]

Wordt tijd dat Europa dit soort zaken regelt. Ik ben echter wel van mening dat dit een ding is dat door een soort van Europese nationale garde o.i.d. moet worden bemenst en gecoördineerd.

[Harald]

Deutschland will "Arrow 3"-System

https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/innenpolitik/raketenabwehr-arrow-3-deutschland-101.html

(artikel vertaald via google translate)

Tot nu toe heeft de federale regering gezwegen over welk antiraketschild ze van plan is aan te schaffen. Zoals de ARD-kapitaalstudio heeft geleerd, moet de beslissing voor het "Arrow 3" -systeem uit Israël worden genomen.

De Duitse plannen voor een raketafweerschild worden concreter: bondskanselier Olaf Scholz sprak maandag in zijn toespraak aan de Charles Universiteit in Praag over een "veiligheidswinst voor heel Europa". Hij kondigde de oprichting aan van een luchtverdedigingssysteem in samenwerking met Europese buren. De kanselier zei niet om welk systeem het zou moeten gaan. Zoals de ARD-hoofdstadstudio leerde van regeringskringen, probeert Duitsland het Israëlische "Arrow 3" -model te krijgen.

Dreiging van ballistische raketten
Dat is niet geheel verwonderlijk: voor juist dit systeem was al kort na het begin van de Russische aanvalsoorlog belangstelling getoond. Een delegatie van de Bondsdag was ook naar Israël afgereisd om er meer over te weten te komen. "Arrow 3" is een beschermend scherm dat inkomende raketten op een hoogte van meer dan 100 kilometer kan vernietigen. Volgens experts heeft Duitsland een defensietekort juist voor dit langeafstandsgebied, voor de dreiging van ballistische raketten vanuit de ruimte.Het is duidelijk dat de overname moet worden gecoördineerd met Europese buren: bondskanselier Scholz noemde Nederland, Polen, de Baltische staten - d.w.z. Estland, Letland, Litouwen - evenals de Tsjechische Republiek, Slowakije en Scandinavië als mogelijke partners. Er is echter nog niets klaar om ondertekend te worden.

Adverteren voor partners
De kosten van het beschermende schild werden onlangs geschat op zo'n twee miljard euro. Hoe groter de groep potentiële Europese partners, hoe goedkoper het project zou kunnen zijn. Parallel aan de dalende kosten voor elke afzonderlijke staat zal echter de behoefte aan coördinatie waarschijnlijk toenemen.

"Arrow 3"-System
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_(Israeli_missile)

US, Israel Approve The Sale Of Arrow 3 Missile Defense System To Germany Amid Russian Aggression In Europe – Reports

The US and Israel have approved the sale of Arrow 3 interceptor for longer-range threats, and the sides are set to discuss further details, the Jerusalem Post newspaper reported on Tuesday, citing senior German air force official Ingo Gerhartz.

The purchase of the air defense system "starts with the approval of Israel and the United States and they gave us the approval," Gerhartz told the newspaper.

"They gave us the approval that we can cooperate on it. But, we still have to talk about the details," the official was quoted as saying.

Additionally, Germany is interested in buying the Iron Dome system because it is used for repelling short-range threats, the newspaper added.

"And for higher interceptors, we have the Patriot weapons system that we will modernize. If it means [threats at a range of ] 15,000km and then it is exoatmospheric we don't have anything and that is why I had a close look at the Arrow 3 and we are really interested in the system," the official said.

Earlier, as The EurAsian Times reported, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and Inspector General of the Bundeswehr Eberhard Zorn had discussed the possibility to acquire the Arrow 3 missile defense system from Israel.

Such a purchase would cost Germany 2 billion euros and the anti-ballistic missile system would enter into service in 2025, according to Bild Newspaper. The defense system could cover Poland, Romania and the Baltics, thanks to the strong radars.

The Israeli Defense Ministry announced in January that it had conducted successful flight tests of the Arrow 3 missile defense system, designed to intercept ballistic missiles outside of the Earth's atmosphere, together with the US.

https://eurasiantimes.com/us-israel-approve-the-sale-of-arrow-3-missile-defense-system-to-germany/