internationale ontwikkelingen LUA, SPAAG, luchtafweer

[Ace1]

Ik mag toch hopen dat Rheinmetall niet het enige bedrijf in Europa is wat luchtafweergeschut levert?

Ik zit dan aan BAE Systems Tridon Mk2 en een moderne versie van de CV9040 AAV te denken.

Verder denk ik aan de  Turra 30-SA turret van het Slowaakse EVPÚ  die je kan voorzien van een 30 mm kanon van diverse fabrikanten

https://www.evpu.sk/en/defence-and-security/turrets/remote-controlled-turret-turra-30-sa

https://www.ztsspecial.sk/en/special-production/30-mm-automatic-gun-2a42-gts-30

https://defence-blog.com/german-firm-develops-condor-hybrid-air-defense-tank/

Leonardo kan met een DRACO 76mm SPAAG komen.

https://defencehub.live/threads/draco-76mm-spaag-italy.6917/#google_vignette

[Huzaar1]

Jaja

[pz]

Aldus het Rheinmetall verkoopkantoor......

https://www.hartpunkt.de/rheinmetall-sieht-bedarf-von-ueber-1-000-flugabwehrsystemen-skyranger-mehr-als-die-haelfte-davon-fuer-die-bundeswehr/

The Düsseldorf-based defense contractor Rheinmetall sees sales potential for more than 1,000 Skyranger air defense systems. As Rheinmetall CEO Armin Papperger explained today in a conference call with analysts, Germany alone is considering procuring 600 to 650 systems, although the final number is not yet 100 percent confirmed. According to the CEO, the German Armed Forces' Skyranger procurement is part of a larger Boxer procurement project by the Bundeswehr called "Arminius." Arminius will likely consolidate the procurement of various Boxer variants. Papperger stated that the Arminius project is expected to amount to around 40 billion euros, of which approximately 22 billion would be Rheinmetall's share.

hartpunkt reported on July 1, 2025 , that the German Armed Forces are working on expanding their air defense and anti-aircraft capabilities and are preparing to procure 500 to 600 Skyranger anti-aircraft gun tanks.
According to the Rheinmetall CEO, there is great interest in the Skyranger system, which can be integrated into various platforms, from Denmark, Austria, and other European nations. "We expect to sell far more than 1,000 Skyrangers," said Papperger.

According to Papperger, the Skynex air defense system is also very successful. In Ukraine, the CEO stated that the system is being used successfully not only for drone defense but also for intercepting missiles – although he did not specify what type of missiles. The English term "missile" can refer to both cruise missiles and rockets. Since Skynex is a system related to the Skyranger, similar anti-aircraft gun tanks could potentially achieve similar success.

[Harald]

    wel een hoge "toren" als deze nog weer bovenop een voertuig gemonteerd wordt, moet ik zeggen. 



U.S.'s Bullfrog Counter-UAS system wins South Korea-UAE orders as Romania joins production.


Allen Control Systems on 5 November 2025 said the Republic of Korea Armed Forces and the United Arab Emirates Armed Forces have ordered its Bullfrog autonomous weapon systems, with training, technical assistance, and sustainment, while Romania signed a memorandum of understanding for local co-production.

On 5 November 2025, Allen Control Systems announced new export contracts and a European industrial foothold that underline how rapidly close-in counter-drone defenses are moving from trials to fielding. As announced by Allen Control Systems, the Republic of Korea Armed Forces and the United Arab Emirates Armed Forces have ordered Bullfrog autonomous weapon systems with training, technical assistance, and sustainment, while Romania has signed a memorandum of understanding for local co-production. The announcement also flags new ACS offices in Europe and Asia to support demand. In a global environment where small UAS and FPV swarms are reshaping land operations and site protection, these deals indicate that Bullfrog is being adopted as a near-term, scalable kinetic layer against Group 1–3 threats.

The contracts with South Korea and the UAE cover delivery of Bullfrog systems together with operator training, technical assistance, and through-life sustainment, suggesting a rapid fielding pathway rather than a technology demonstration. ACS positions Bullfrog as an autonomous precision weapon station that can be mounted on legacy or modern platforms to improve first-round effects against low, slow, small targets, a requirement increasingly evident around critical infrastructure and maneuver formations alike. The company frames Bullfrog as a ready, combat-relevant option for close-in kinetic defeat at scale, and is expanding its regional presence to execute these programs.

The Romania memorandum of understanding is notable for its industrial content: a local co-production framework typically shortens logistics chains, supports faster spiral upgrades, and aligns with NATO allies' broader push to regionalize supply for high-consumption counter-UAS equipment. Although quantities and timelines have not been disclosed, the MoU's focus on in-country production indicates intent to build assembly and sustainment capacity on the Alliance's eastern flank. ACS lists the Romania agreement alongside its export awards and states that new European and Asian offices will support these markets, a signal that the company expects persistent regional demand.

ACS has not specified which Bullfrog variants will be delivered to either customer, and multiple weapon configurations exist. The Bullfrog M240 mounts a 7.62×51 mm NATO weapon with a listed 850 rds/min cyclic rate, <1 MOA pointing accuracy, and a maximum effective range against point targets of about 800 m. The module is pitched for "individual platform" all-purpose defense against Group 1–3 UAS, operating with autonomous detection, tracking, and identification while retaining a human-in-the-loop command to fire.

For higher-mass targets or extended standoff, the Bullfrog M2 pairs the system with a .50 cal/12.7 mm weapon at roughly 600 rds/min, maintaining <1 MOA pointing accuracy and extending point-target engagements to about 1,500 m. ACS describes this configuration as suitable for individual platform advanced defense and "final protective fires" against Group 3+ UAS. At the top end, the Bullfrog M230 integrates a 30×113 mm chain gun, listed at ~200 rds/min and 250 lbs (without ammo), with point-target reach quoted between 800 and 1,500 m depending on ammunition, and is characterized as countering Group 2–3 UAS with Group 3+ final protective fires.

The M134 configuration focuses on suppressive and swarm scenarios: a 7.62×51 mm minigun delivering 2,000–6,000 rds/min, with the same <1 MOA pointing accuracy and an 800 m point-target figure, oriented to Group 1–2 UAS/FPV/swarms with Group 3 final protective fires. Across the family, ACS emphasizes a passive sensor stack, no radar emissions, that reduces detectability, open-architecture integration with common C2 frameworks such as ATAK and FAAD C2, and a claimed cost-per-kill "as low as $10" when using service-common weapons and ammunition. These features aim to let forces layer Bullfrog on vehicles, vessels, or fixed sites while minimizing signatures and recurring costs; they also explain why operator training and technical assistance are bundled into the new export contracts.

Operationally, Bullfrog has been moving beyond concept trials. Army Recognition reported this week that the U.S. Army is testing the turret on Abrams tanks and Bradley IFVs, underscoring the push to give armor organic protection against UAS at the "last hundred meters." Separately, ACS points to earlier U.S. programs involving Army Applications Lab and Special Operations Command, including maritime applications, as evidence of maturity. While national requirements will shape whether customers favor the 7.62 mm, .50 cal, 30 mm, or minigun variants, the common fire-control software, passive detection approach, and C2 interoperability are the technological constants that Romania's co-production plan and the South Korea/UAE deliveries are set to take into serial use.

The message for defense planners is clear: close-in kinetic defeat is joining electronic and cyber measures as a standard layer of counter-UAS architecture, and export customers are beginning to lock in supply chains, training pipelines, and local industrial participation to sustain it. The ACS awards to South Korea and the UAE, together with the Romania co-production MoU and new regional offices, indicate that Bullfrog's passive, open-architecture approach, and its range of weapon options from 7.62 mm to 30 mm, is being adopted as a practical answer to Group 1–3 threats at scale.

https://www.armyrecognition.com/news/army-news/2025/u-s-s-bullfrog-counter-uas-system-wins-south-korea-uae-orders-as-romania-joins-production

https://www.allencontrolsystems.com/

[Harald]

DefendAir-Small-Anti-Drone-Missile-Drohnenabwehr-Flugkoerper-von-MBDA-Deutschland


Er is ongeveer 500 miljoen euro vrijgemaakt voor de ontwikkeling en aanschaf van drone-verdedigingsraketten. https://share.google/LO4jMx9FDU9zLztDY

De begrotingscommissie van de Duitse Bondsdag heeft vandaag tijdens haar vergadering circa € 490 miljoen goedgekeurd voor de ontwikkeling en aanschaf van DefendAir-drone-verdedigingsraketten van MBDA Duitsland, zo bevestigden goed geïnformeerde bronnen aan hartpunkt. De Defensiecommissie had de bijbehorende voorstellen van € 25 miljoen vanochtend al goedgekeurd. Dit stelt de Duitse strijdkrachten in staat om nu een contract te sluiten met MBDA Duitsland.

Naar verluidt is iets meer dan twee derde van het bedrag bestemd voor de ontwikkeling en kwalificatie van de drone-verdedigingsraketten, voorheen bekend als Small Anti-Drone Missiles (SADM), die MBDA Duitsland nu op de markt brengt onder de naam DefendAir. Het resterende bedrag is bestemd voor de aankoop van productieraketten. Naast de raketten zelf en de bijbehorende productielijn zullen ook bijbehorende lanceercontainers worden ontwikkeld en gekwalificeerd. De serieproductie zou naar verluidt in 2029 van start gaan, zodat de levering aan de Duitse strijdkrachten vanaf 2030 zou kunnen beginnen.

De Duitse strijdkrachten hebben enkele maanden geleden de DefendAir anti-drone raketten geselecteerd als secundaire bewapening voor het gemotoriseerde luchtafweergeschut Skyranger 30, zo meldt hartpunkt . Zoals goed geïnformeerde bronnen aan hartpunkt hebben uitgelegd, maakt de integratie van de raketten in de Skyranger echter geen deel uit van het vandaag goedgekeurde voorstel van € 25 miljoen. Dit werkpakket zou al zijn opgenomen in het ontwikkelings- en inkoopcontract voor de Skyranger.

De plannen bepalen dat elke Skyranger moet worden uitgerust met minimaal negen en mogelijk zelfs twaalf DefendAir-raketten.

MBDA Duitsland ontwikkelt de DefendAir op basis van het wapensysteem Leichtes Wirkmittel 1.800+ dat door de Duitse strijdkrachten werd geïntroduceerd. Dit systeem is bedoeld voor de bestrijding van gronddoelen en wordt door het bedrijf op de markt gebracht onder de naam Enforcer.

De anti-drone geleide raket is ontworpen met een groter bereik dan de originele Enforcer-raket en zal worden uitgerust met een speciale zoekerkop voor luchtdoelen. Het grotere bereik wordt bereikt door middel van een booster die aan de raket is bevestigd. Het verwachte bereik is ongeveer vijf kilometer.

[Harald]

Lightweight RIwP turret with stabilized 30mm cannon, integrated Stinger/rocket pods and modular sensors for mobile C-UAS and SHORAD missions

AUSA 2025: U.S. Moog LW RIwP turret readies light vehicles for counter-drone and helicopter threats.

The LW RIwP is a member of a turret family that shares around 85% commonality across configurations and mounts on a standard 1-meter NATO bearing with zero cabin intrusion, easing integration on JLTV-class trucks and ultralight platforms. Base weight is listed at 1,070 pounds for the lightweight variant, with a 28 VDC electrical architecture per MIL-STD-1275. The drive provides continuous 360-degree azimuth, elevation from minus 20 to plus 60 degrees with an option to plus 80, and firing stability at or below 0.3 milliradian, enabling accurate fire on the move. The fire control suite supports slew-to-cue, programmable airburst and proximity rounds, laser range-finding, and direct radar and C2 integration.

Primary guns include 25 mm M242, 30x113 mm XM914, or 30x173 mm XM813 or Mk44, with typical ready loads between 100 and 250 rounds. Coaxial and secondary weapons range from 5.56 mm to 12.7 mm and grenade launchers. The missile menu spans Stinger for SHORAD, APKWS guided rockets, Coyote and Switchblade loitering munitions, and anti-armor choices such as Javelin, TOW, Spike ER2, Brimstone, and JAGM. Independent gunner and commander sights can be up-armored, and the architecture is designed to swap payloads in minutes with organic maintainers.

This loadout maps cleanly to the Army's M-SHORAD Increment 4 direction of travel. The RFI for Increment 4 calls for defeating Groups 1 to 3 UAS, along with rotary and close-support fixed-wing threats while keeping the system C-130 transportable, air droppable, and sling-load capable. Moog's emphasis on efficient airlift and sling-loadability, combined with a Stinger-plus-30 mm PABM baseline and native radar and C2 hooks, aligns with those thresholds and positions LW RIwP as a ready candidate for U.S. fielding.

Mounted on a nimble ISV or JLTV, a lightweight turret that can carry a 30 mm cannon with proximity airburst and a bank of Stingers gives brigade commanders a mobile picket that can push out, maneuver with combined arms teams, and prosecute drones at short notice without calling for a Stryker battery. Stabilization to sub-milliradian levels and hunter-killer controls support fast handoffs and shoot-on-the-move engagements, while the ability to mix effectors on a single ring lets units tailor loadouts for base defense, convoy overwatch, or forward screening of CPs and logistics nodes. These employment concepts mirror recent Army guidance on integrating SHORAD batteries with maneuver formations and division air defense coordinators.

The Army is expanding its SHORAD posture, with congressional analysts noting plans for additional M-SHORAD battalions and persistent concern on Capitol Hill about counter-UAS investment. Meanwhile, the service is experimenting with Increment 4 concepts shaped by recent counter-drone efforts, an acknowledgment that low-cost enemy drones are rewriting the calculus from Ukraine to the Middle East. In that climate, a domestically produced, ITAR-controlled turret already proven in U.S. SHORAD and C-UAS roles offers a low-risk bridge to near-term capability while the Army refines its next architecture.

https://www.armyrecognition.com/news/army-news/2025/ausa-2025-u-s-moog-lw-riwp-turret-readies-light-vehicles-for-counter-drone-and-helicopter-threats

[Huzaar1]

Grappig genoeg hebben de Joegoslaven de M18 Hellcat en T-34's nog in de jaren 90 gebruikt

Xorrect, maar dat zijn geen peer players dus niet zo gek. De t34 wordt op de dag vandaag nog operationeel ingezet door enkele afrikaanse landen.

[Robert2]

Bizar dat een wapensysteem van meer dan 60 jaar oud zo wordt ingezet. Dat is hetzelfde als dat we in 1990 Sherman tanks hadden ingezet in de operationele uitrusting van eenheden.

Grappig genoeg hebben de Joegoslaven de M18 Hellcat en T-34's nog in de jaren 90 gebruikt

[Ace1]

U.S. Navy Pursuing Palletized CIWS Systems as Threats Evolve

Following the trend of U.S. Navy 'containerized' solutions for various platforms, BAE Systems is pitching its Bofors 40 Mk 4 as another containerized system for counter-UAS, counter-USV, and point-defense missions. The gun was shown for the first time at Sea Air Space 2025 as part of a broader effort to introduce the gun and its '3P' all-target ammunition to the U.S. audience.

The U.S. Navy is leaning heavily into palletized and containerized solutions for additional firepower on lightly armed surface combatants. The U.S. Navy's Littoral Combat Ships, long considered under-gunned for a near-peer conflict, are one of the main recipients of containerized weapon systems for this purpose. Other ships, like expeditionary sea bases and amphibious assault ships, could get containerized guns that can roll out from hangars to provide air defense during complex attacks, adding to the point defense and precision kill capabilities of the entire fleet.

BAE Systems has recognized the emerging need, pitching their 40mm Bofors 40 Mk 4, alongside other solutions, as a suite of options for a U.S. Navy interested in firepower that can be quickly onloaded and offloaded from any ship in the fleet.

BAE is offering a wide range of palletized weapon solutions to the U.S. Navy, including the Adaptable Deck Launcher (ADL), high power microwave systems, and of course, the 40 Mk 4 gun. Naval News had the opportunity to discuss the gun and its unique ammunition in detail with Tate Westbrook, Director of Naval Guns & Ammunition and Surface Ship Missile Launchers at BAE Systems.

The U.S. Navy, in its operations in the Red Sea, has expended a large number of medium and long range surface-to-air missiles like the SM-2 and SM-6 in defense of allied warships and international shipping. Despite upgrades to existing weapons to improve the drone threat, the U.S. Navy is still concerned with the emerging drone threat, prompting interest in additional platforms for counter-UAS and counter-USV missions.

The ammunition fired by the 40 Mk 4 is unique in the fact that it operates with a highly effective proximity fuse. This allows for near-misses or general targeting of an incoming drone, missile, or surface ship with a kill box several meters in size. The platform is also superior to the U.S. Navy's existing 20mm Phalanx CIWS, making replacement of the Phalanx with a guided point-defense system possible if the U.S. Navy pursues the system fully. Westbrook explained the superiority over 20mm gun systems, emphasizing range differences and ammunition type.

The ammunition used is nicknamed '3P'; proximity-fused, pre-programmed, pre-fragmented. The 40mm projectiles are extremely effective against all types of aerial threats, including high speed 'FPV' style drones performing evasive maneuvers. The gun was able to shoot down several types of UAS with 'one-shot, one-kill' performance during trials.

The gun also performs at a high rate of fire despite the larger caliber, firing around 5 rounds per second in all modes. This allows for sustained fire against drone swarms and other emerging threats like USVs or swarming small boats, rapidly switching targets to engage inbound threats.

According to Westbrook, the gun performs out to 4-5 kilometers, which is extremely effective for a 40mm gun. To sustain the rate of fire the gun can be reloaded, enabling a sustained fire rate against drone swarms with several hundred targets.

A palletized version of the gun is being sent to Ukraine to provide air defense systems as it continues battling Russian Shahed-style one-way attack drones. According to Westbrook, the palletized version of the 40 Mk 4 can be installed on any combatant or non-combatant ship in a non-intrusive way for self defense against missiles, drones, and small boats. Guns can be loaded and onloaded in just a few hours.

The U.S. Navy's pursuit of palletized and containerized firepower is making up for the ongoing loss of VLS cells in the fleet as the Ticonderoga-class guided missile cruisers retire. Current containerized missile programs have made the Freedom- and Independence-class ships easily reloadable at sea to fire any type of Mark 41-capable missile. The options offered by BAE Systems could extend this lethality enhancement to every U.S. Navy ship.

https://www.navalnews.com/event-news/sea-air-space-2025/2025/04/u-s-navy-pursuing-palletized-ciws-systems-as-threats-evolve/

[Ace1]

Mijn vraag is dus beantwoord, het is er al en ook al in gebruik dus in feite MOTS als wij hem willen

Ja klopt maar zou de CV9040 AAV: de LuftVärnsKanonVagn wel graag zien in de CV9035NL MLU versie het enig verschil is dan het kanon. Je moet namelijk niet alleen van de Skyranger 30 en 35 afhankelijk willen zijn in Europa.

[Umbert]

Het is een kwestie van tijd dat Bea Systems Zweden met een nieuwe versie van CV9040 AAV komt.

CV9040 AAV: de LuftVärnsKanonVagn, een luchtafweervoertuig met een enorme cilindervormige zoekradar op het dak met een bereik van twaalf kilometer en 40mm luchtafweergeschut. Er is ook een kleine doelradar boven het kanon met een bereik van vijf kilometer. Het gewicht is 24 ton en de bemanning bestaat uit zeven. Van dit type zijn er 27 in gebruik bij Zweden uit een serie van dertig geproduceerd sinds 1997.

Mijn vraag is dus beantwoord, het is er al en ook al in gebruik dus in feite MOTS als wij hem willen

[Huzaar1]

Idd

[Ace1]

Het is een kwestie van tijd dat Bea Systems Zweden met een nieuwe versie van CV9040 AAV komt.

CV9040 AAV: de LuftVärnsKanonVagn, een luchtafweervoertuig met een enorme cilindervormige zoekradar op het dak met een bereik van twaalf kilometer en 40mm luchtafweergeschut. Er is ook een kleine doelradar boven het kanon met een bereik van vijf kilometer. Het gewicht is 24 ton en de bemanning bestaat uit zeven. Van dit type zijn er 27 in gebruik bij Zweden uit een serie van dertig geproduceerd sinds 1997.

[Sparkplug]

De chinook dateert ook de jaren 60, de FN browning nog van voor WW2

De FN Browning is van 1935 en de M2 Browning wordt al sinds 1933 gebruikt. Zelfs de FN MAG heeft de pensioenleeftijd (1958). Martin-Baker gebruikt nog steeds een Gloster Meteor voor hun testwerk.

[Benji87]

Vergeet de B52 bommenwerper niet.De jongste zijn 65 jaar oud en ze gaan door vliegen tot 2050.

De chinook dateert ook de jaren 60, de FN browning nog van voor WW2